Youtube General thread (formerly Youtube Censorship discussion thread)

[Barry Williams]

Are there any lolcow channels I should be archiving?

Erik "Taz" Mokracek
Aaron McCluske

Nevermind, we're too late.

Will someone please think of the Youtube poops?

numbers numbers numbers

Now say "McDonalds" out loud to verify that you saw the ad and continue the video.

You guys keep bringing this up and I'm genuinely curious about this dystopian obsession. What if a brainless retarded person who absorbs everything from osmosis, aka the ideal person to be serving ads to, has a very obvious speech impediment due to their mental state and can't complete this hypothetical verbal captcha? Like what if they just stammer out a "middonas" and the system cannot recognize it? I'm talking like someone who just sits around all day watching 40 minute supercuts of Thomas the Tank Engine and Lego shit absorbing every single ad thrown their way. They'd get tangled up on the first ad the first time the program asks them to say "McDonalds" and they wouldn't see any more ads after that.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

I want to do my part. Any guides to download videos?

 

[Borax Bozo]

Youtube actually shadow-bans likes for "suspicious activity" which is more likely what you're seeing. Trust me I know from experience. tested it by having friends like a youtube video and then the likes fucking vanished while still saying they're there on the notification chart and activity but everywhere else? it's like they weren't ever there. It's kind of wild how botted likes still get through in a system as oppressive as that.

I'm not sure you understood what I was posting about - I meant that posts which have been shadowbanned and thus not visible to the public (and thus could never have received human likes) get a small amount of likes anyway. (Usually a few minutes after posting.) Not that posts are receiving likes which get removed or are not there when inspected.
I think YT does this to "prove" to the poster that people are seeing their comment, even though no one does. It's part of maintaining the illusion to the poster that they are not shadowbanned.

 

[frozen_runner]

I don't think that's quite the turn-off you think it is anymore.

The real problem is functionality. Nothing is as functional or as user friendly as YouTube, even now.

I admit I get irritated by the sea of thumbnails Boomers staring into their cameras talking about Q and the deep state that you see all over these alternate sites, but the biggest issue is they just don't work well. Look at Bitchute. They never figured out how to get their search function working as well as YouTube, and they log you out every few weeks or so, so I just gave up on it.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I'm not sure you understood what I was posting about - I meant that posts which have been shadowbanned and thus not visible to the public (and thus could never have received human likes) get a small amount of likes anyway. (Usually a few minutes after posting.) Not that posts are receiving likes which get removed or are not there when inspected.
I think YT does this to "prove" to the poster that people are seeing their comment, even though no one does. It's part of maintaining the illusion to the poster that they are not shadowbanned.

Ah! I think it might be a bit more complicated than just that. Do you remember the candid shadowban algorithm where it filtered people so the shadow banned could see each others posts? I have a feeling it might be kind of like that. ESPECALLY since candid solely existed to train it so they could sell it to the highest bidder and get a cushy amazon job.

 

[crowabunga]

NewPipe Chads stay winning. Still haven't seen one single ad since this drama started.

I use Newpipe too, but I doubt it will do us any good once this is rolled out. After all, if the ads are inserted into the (sets of) video data sent to clients in the exact same format and manner as "real" video content, then why wouldn't ads also get packed into requests for video data from programs like Newpipe and YT-DLP?

 

[geckogoy]

yt-dlp is pretty good as others have said, you can use it without flags (ie just yt-dlp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBJa32lCaaY ) or you can customize it a bit but its not necessary (i like -f bestaudio+bestvideo/best to get the max remaining quality)

why wouldn't ads also get packed into requests for video data from programs like Newpipe and YT-DLP?

Hence why the sneeder suggests archiving anything you care about sooner rather than later

 

[Digital Snow]

If an ad makes it past my adblock, I'm getting AdNauseum. I won't let them spend my time to try and manipulate me.

sponsorblock can already detect sponsorships inside videos to skip if it's the same youtube ads it's trivial pajeets eternally behind the arms race lmao

Sponsorblock doesn't detect anything on its own, everything it skips is user submitted. Also, they said inserting ads directly into the video will throw off those user-submitted timestamps.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

MythTV developed a way of skipping TV ads ages ago. Hopefully the better youtube channels will start putting a logo in the corner to make this easy.

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Commercial_detection

 

[Chazzed Up]

The biggest Youtube loss I've suffered in recent years was the loss of the janny song... you don't know what you got til it's gone.

 

[Corpun]

I can't wait to watch DSP rant about how the programmers at YouTube aren't street smart and need fired while at the same time sucking off YouTube Premium for the 5 extra cents he gets from it.

 

[Mikoyan]

The real problem is functionality. Nothing is as functional or as user friendly as YouTube, even now.

I admit I get irritated by the sea of thumbnails Boomers staring into their cameras talking about Q and the deep state that you see all over these alternate sites, but the biggest issue is they just don't work well. Look at Bitchute. They never figured out how to get their search function working as well as YouTube, and they log you out every few weeks or so, so I just gave up on it.

The 'moat' of youtube is indeed threefold.

1: It becomes an unadvertisable echo chamber of 'based deplatformed' content because as someone once said on here of Gab 'you find out that 'free speech' sounds like NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER' and that turns normies off'.
2: These platforms indeed don't work well. Look at Josh's travails on multistreaming. Sure you can blame the Feeder, but every week at least one alt service fucks up. YT and Twitch don't often do that.
3: The audiences are tiny as a result of 1, and 2, and intertia. You can go on an alt platform, and doom yourself to a thousandth of the YT audience.
3a: IF any one of these started getting bigger they'd run out of money in weeks. They aren't getting real ad money because of 1, and they don't have Google and the other big techs' ability to force ISPs to host on net caches and give them free peering, meanwhile the 'alts' have to pay for every bit they send to viewers. This is why Netflix stopped bitching about pay-for-service from ISPs and stopped supporting net neutrality. The higher the cost for an alternative service to start up the prettier they sit.

 

[Null]

The 'moat' of youtube is indeed threefold.

1: It becomes an unadvertisable echo chamber of 'based deplatformed' content because as someone once said on here of Gab 'you find out that 'free speech' sounds like NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER' and that turns normies off'.
2: These platforms indeed don't work well. Look at Josh's travails on multistreaming. Sure you can blame the Feeder, but every week at least one alt service fucks up. YT and Twitch don't often do that.
3: The audiences are tiny as a result of 1, and 2, and intertia. You can go on an alt platform, and doom yourself to a thousandth of the YT audience.
3a: IF any one of these started getting bigger they'd run out of money in weeks. They aren't getting real ad money because of 1, and they don't have Google and the other big techs' ability to force ISPs to host on net caches and give them free peering, meanwhile the 'alts' have to pay for every bit they send to viewers. This is why Netflix stopped bitching about pay-for-service from ISPs and stopped supporting net neutrality. The higher the cost for an alternative service to start up the prettier they sit.

Rumble has enough Jewish blood in it to keep it solvent monetarily. It seems to be doing OK. It is pretty rough as as service though.

 

[Konstantin Romanov]

What if big youtube channels made tutorials on how to block ads on Jewtube in retaliation? So many of them are already crying about how they get screwed over by the algorithm.

They would be banned. Videos describing how to download from or block ads on youtube are already technically bannable per the current TOS and there is no channel that is worth more to youtube than their monopoly on monetizable video hosting.

Quick notes to people suggesting this represents the "beginning of the end" for youtube.
1) People are cattle, for most the inconvenience of finding and installing an adblocker outweighs the inconvenience of being skullfucked by mcdonalds. Adblock users represent, depending on the source, somewhere between 11 and 38 percent of web users.
2) Adblock users are worth significantly less than nothing to youtube. You cost them money. They pay for priority bandwidth you are sucking up. They pay for server racks you are putting wear on. They pay for legal teams to enforce the copyright on videos you are watching for free. They pay for content moderation to pacify advertisers whose ads you aren't watching. Making ads harder to block will not affect the majority of people who don't use adblock and will not affect the people who pay for premium already. Every adblock user they convert to premium OR drive off the site permanently is money in the bank. Youtube will be a stronger company if they successfully make you hate their product and leave.

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

Just spent my entire morning downloading crap. Looking forward to this being yet another nothing burger.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

I hope the ad system is as invasive and half-assed as possible. I want some boomer to be watching his favorite Sopranos clips and in the middle of an iconic quote he gets a 50 second long unskippable spliced advertisement for hemorrhoid cream.

 

[Lone MacReady II]

Jewgle's long march to turn the net into the Tell-a-vision. Too many plebs getting away from propaganda, too many plebs getting away from ads with nothing but niggers in them, too many plebs getting away from shekel sheisters.

 

[Mikoyan]

Rumble has enough Jewish blood in it to keep it solvent monetarily. It seems to be doing OK. It is pretty rough as as service though.

I think that Rumble (or another subsequent service) can have enough to maintain an alt-niche. People in this thread are thinking a generalized Youtube Killer will emerge and that's the part I think is unlikely.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

This can be seen since they have shown actual scams and virus websites.

And they wonder why anyone would use adblock.

 

[Sneeder Griffin]

I don't really understand this decision. It's like YouTube is bending over and spreading its cheeks for TikTok, saying "Please TikTok, rape my ass with your Big Black (Chinese) Cock!" Why can't YouTube get into the e-commerce sphere, which is how TikTok remains profitable?

As some others have suggested, TikTok is a viable alternative in terms of uploading and archiving content. TikTok allows uploads up to 10 minutes, so splitting up videos into 10 minute parts should be reasonable unless you're trying to archive 10 hour streams or something. I'd rather flip through 20 different videos than watch 10-15 minutes of ads. The only downside is that you have to download the app in order to watch most content, which requires your real phone number.

As for content I want archived, can someone archive all of Reviewbrah's content? He's the only content creator I watch that isn't a lolcow. I guess I'll have to start tuning into his short wave radio program to get my fix.