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https://youtube.googleblog.com/2017/08/an-update-on-our-commitment-to-fight.html

A little over a month ago, we told you about the four new steps we’re taking to combat terrorist content on YouTube: better detection and faster removal driven by machine learning, more experts to alert us to content that needs review, tougher standards for videos that are controversial but do not violate our policies, and more work in the counter-terrorism space.

We wanted to give you an update on these commitments:

Better detection and faster removal driven by machine learning: We’ve always used a mix of technology and human review to address the ever-changing challenges around controversial content on YouTube. We recently began developing and implementing cutting-edge machine learning technology designed to help us identify and remove violent extremism and terrorism-related content in a scalable way. We have started rolling out these tools and we are already seeing some positive progress:
  • Speed and efficiency: Our machine learning systems are faster and more effective than ever before. Over 75 percent of the videos we've removed for violent extremism over the past month were taken down before receiving a single human flag.
  • Accuracy: The accuracy of our systems has improved dramatically due to our machine learning technology. While these tools aren’t perfect, and aren’t right for every setting, in many cases our systems have proven more accurate than humans at flagging videos that need to be removed.
  • Scale: With over 400 hours of content uploaded to YouTube every minute, finding and taking action on violent extremist content poses a significant challenge. But over the past month, our initial use of machine learning has more than doubled both the number of videos we've removed for violent extremism, as well as the rate at which we’ve taken this kind of content down.
We are encouraged by these improvements, and will continue to develop our technology in order to make even more progress. We are also hiring more people to help review and enforce our policies, and will continue to invest in technical resources to keep pace with these issues and address them responsibly.

More experts: Of course, our systems are only as good as the the data they’re based on. Over the past weeks, we have begun working with more than 15 additional expert NGOs and institutions through our Trusted Flagger program, including the Anti-Defamation League, the No Hate Speech Movement, and the Institute for Strategic Dialogue. These organizations bring expert knowledge of complex issues like hate speech, radicalization, and terrorism that will help us better identify content that is being used to radicalize and recruit extremists. We will also regularly consult these experts as we update our policies to reflect new trends. And we’ll continue to add more organizations to our network of advisors over time.

Tougher standards: We’ll soon be applying tougher treatment to videos that aren’t illegal but have been flagged by users as potential violations of our policies on hate speech and violent extremism. If we find that these videos don’t violate our policies but contain controversial religious or supremacist content, they will be placed in a limited state. The videos will remain on YouTube behind an interstitial, won’t be recommended, won’t be monetized, and won’t have key features including comments, suggested videos, and likes. We’ll begin to roll this new treatment out to videos on desktop versions of YouTube in the coming weeks, and will bring it to mobile experiences soon thereafter. These new approaches entail significant new internal tools and processes, and will take time to fully implement.

Early intervention and expanding counter-extremism work: We’ve started rolling out features from Jigsaw’s Redirect Method to YouTube. When people search for sensitive keywords on YouTube, they will be redirected towards a playlist of curated YouTube videos that directly confront and debunk violent extremist messages. We also continue to amplify YouTube voices speaking out against hate and radicalization through our YouTube Creators for Change program. Just last week, the U.K. chapter of Creators for Change, Internet Citizens, hosted a two-day workshop for 13-18 year-olds to help them find a positive sense of belonging online and learn skills on how to participate safely and responsibly on the internet. We also pledged to expand the program’s reach to 20,000 more teens across the U.K.

And over the weekend, we hosted our latest Creators for Change workshop in Bandung, Indonesia, where creators teamed up with Indonesia’s Maarif Institute to teach young people about the importance of diversity, pluralism, and tolerance.

Altogether, we have taken significant steps over the last month in our fight against online terrorism. But this is not the end. We know there is always more work to be done. With the help of new machine learning technology, deep partnerships, ongoing collaborations with other companies through the Global Internet Forum, and our vigilant community we are confident we can continue to make progress against this ever-changing threat. We look forward to sharing more with you in the months ahead.

The YouTube Team

This gonna be gud.
 
Youtube Red was a hilariously bad failure. Anyone know ballpark numbers of how much they've lost on it?

But yeah, I think you're right. After Red's failure, they realized they weren't gonna compete with Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. So going after TV is their next logical step. And they THINK that mass censoring via SJWs to cater to advertisers will be their ticket.

Pretty sure this is gonna backfire hard and they'll realize people aren't watching The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, and all those other cash-cow cable shows because of how left-leaning and SJW friendly they are...

If content creators feel they are being censored through de-monetizing and skewing search results, what options do they currently have?
 
If content creators feel they are being censored through de-monetizing and skewing search results, what options do they currently have?


They would be wrong feeling censored. If they took a second and realized it's a money thing for the company hosting them, they'd realized what they need to do to continue making a profit on said platform.
 
Watching Google try to decapitate the cable media companies would be absolute business carnage. Can't wait. Cleansing fire, etc.

If they'd somehow pull off their bullshit of laying fiber all over the place I'd put up with hundreds of hours of Sarkeesian bullshit being on it. I just don't see them actually laying down any infrastructure after years of talking shit about how they're doing it any day now.
 
They would be wrong feeling censored. If they took a second and realized it's a money thing for the company hosting them, they'd realized what they need to do to continue making a profit on said platform.

No offense to youtube, but if this is the sort of content they want across their platform, then I don't think they'll be making much money, and I'd go somewhere else.

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While those are awful, they have millions of views which is what matters to YouTube

How can we be sure they do have millions of views? There have been several times YT has been caught manipulating likes, dislikes, comments and view counters. So can't youtube just manipulate stats on the videos they want to promote and keep the money rolling in?
 
How can we be sure they do have millions of views? There have been several times YT has been caught manipulating likes, dislikes, comments and view counters. So can't youtube just manipulate stats on the videos they want to promote and keep the money rolling in?

Whatever keeps advertisers happy
 
No offense to youtube, but if this is the sort of content they want across their platform, then I don't think they'll be making much money, and I'd go somewhere else.

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I like how with one notable exception, all the thumbnails look like slickly produced videos from a sanitized content creator or vanilla corporate entity, but the top viewed video among all of them is some random guy's footage of two cows fucking, which has a clear 20 million view lead over all the rest. It's clear that even those fancypants ranking algorithms cannot hide what the consumers really want!
 
In fact, I bet Youtube execs can't wait for controversial content creators to go away, so that big companies can pay for their ads without worries.
This is the real reason why they're doing it. Companies have been complaining about their brands being associated with neonazi shit.
 
The full google anti-diversity document is now publicly available. It's rather reasonable so small wonder it pissed them off so much.



Google is a business, but it's following the exact same business paradigm as Twitter right now, and Twitter has been bleeding money out the ass for over a year and a half now, to the tune of being half a billion dollars down from 2015. So let's take a closer look at that and understand why this shit is doomed to fail, other than the obvious legal reasons already discussed (curated content like this opens Google up for lawsuits from two of the most litigious groups on the planet, the RIAA and MPAA, who fucking will do so).

The problem is one of demographics; at the end of the day, you need people to go to peruse your content to sell advertisements on or put curated content in, or you won't be making any cash at all, and that's the rub when it comes ot Social Justice. Youtube already operates at a loss, but it does so as a loss leader; it loses some cash to get everyone in the door and keep everything else running smoothly. When the Adpocalypse hit, Google wound up losing an unprecedented amount of money via advertisers simply fucking off. You can look at Gawker to have a good idea of how destructive that can be if they don't come back.

Now, I don't have the survey in front of me, but a widely-quoted one from a few years back says feminists account for about 18% of social media users. Note that that 18 percent accounts for both the not-insane ones and the lunatics we so enjoy watching. Social Justice Warriors, by all accounts, make up less than half of that number. This means that 91% of Social Media users are not fucking Social Justice Warriors, but that the policies being put forth by the big tech firms are designed specifically to appeal to a tiny minority of the userbase and literally no one else.

Can you see the problem with this yet?

That tiny minority of the userbase is being given full reign, and it shows - not only are the policies on Twitter right now specifically designed to appeal to them, but all curated content and "hot right now" articles show the same regressive leftist bullshit. In other words, Twitter's started a self-feeding cycle where they're constantly banning people in the name of the perpetually offended, and then being shocked, shocked I tells ya, when they don't have any ability whatsoever to maintain new users and they don't do shit about the literal millions of bots on their platform that account for more than 15% of the userbase. Even people who don't give one iota that lives down the street from a shit about politics can't fucking ignore this, because Twitter features "featured content" shit in its bar which is 90% Social Justice idiocy.

So how's that worked out for 'em?

Twitter has lost 17 executives within the last year, which means that over 60% of its executives have fucking fled the obviously sinking ship. Twitter is essentially committing economic suicide, focusing all efforts on criminalizing wrongthink while the platform itself continues to sink further and further into the red. A buyout or fire sale of Twitter's assets is going to happen if they don't turn shit around, but since Twitter is focused on fighting wrongthink, good fucking luck with that hot mess. It's a giant leaking ship right now that they're trying to act is still seaworthy while desperately trying to find someone to buy it.

Inevitably, Google's going to follow Twitter's path if they choose to go down that way, and they'll only have themselves to blame.

Google doesn't care. I mean, it literally doesn't. There's been MASSIVE evidence that Social Justice Shit does not sell. Salon is having trouble paying its rent, Marvel comic's sales have dropped into the toilet and indie SJW games barely get any sales. It doesn't sell. Nobody gives a fuck about diversity of skin color or what you have between your legs, its how good your shit is. 90% of people will tell you they don't want anyone discriminated against. They just want good shit.

The problem is the absolute arrogance and ignoring of reality that these people posses. I mean, you've got Marvel authors being smug at their fans and not caring about their plummeting sales (the Diversity in Comics guy gets more views on videos than they sell some issues) and having a job solely because of the Movie and TV division. If Marvel didn't have that Disney money, they'd be fucked.

Google itself doesn't care if it kills YouTube. Well, figuratively. They want to purge it of anything they don't approve of. And they think this will also bring in advertisers who don't want trouble. Its a double win in their eyes.

Youtube Red was a hilariously bad failure. Anyone know ballpark numbers of how much they've lost on it?

But yeah, I think you're right. After Red's failure, they realized they weren't gonna compete with Netflix/Hulu/Amazon. So going after TV is their next logical step. And they THINK that mass censoring via SJWs to cater to advertisers will be their ticket.

Pretty sure this is gonna backfire hard and they'll realize people aren't watching The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones, and all those other cash-cow cable shows because of how left-leaning and SJW friendly they are...

Google doesn't typically give out numbers, but I imagine it was very, very bad. I mean, the only shit they offered was no ads (adblock, duh) and be able to play on your phone when you look away, which should be a feature and sure as fuck is not worth $10 a month. It was a very poor effort for them and they're too far behind to catch up with original content.

And I think conventional TV is dying because its shitty. And also packages. If Google can manage to keep its package cheap, it just might stand to do it.

I was going to make a thread about this. It's an excellent memo and the higher ups response to it is ridiculous.

"We aren't an ideological company!"

*guy writes reasonable memo*

"WHO THE FUCKING FUCK DID THIS? FIND ME THIS SON OF A BITCH. HE NEEDS TO GO TO OUR DIVERSITY CAMP AND NEEDS TO RE-UP ON HIS DIVERSITY CLASSES"

How can we be sure they do have millions of views? There have been several times YT has been caught manipulating likes, dislikes, comments and view counters. So can't youtube just manipulate stats on the videos they want to promote and keep the money rolling in?

We don't know. We also don't know what would have millions of views if YouTube didn't constantly manipulate its algorithms.
 
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Google itself doesn't care if it kills YouTube. Well, figuratively. They want to purge it of anything they don't approve of. And they think this will also bring in advertisers who don't want trouble. Its a double win in their eyes.

If you have no eyes watching it, though, advertisers aren't going to pay you shit to put ads on it. So they can go ahead and remove everything but shitty Finger Family videos but nobody is going to pay them for it.
 
Google fired the employee who wrote that letter critical of the company's policies. And that's where things get interesting.

According to CNBC, they broke federal law doing this, and cursory examination shows that to be accurate:

CNBC said:
Federal labor law bars even non-union employers like Google from punishing an employee for communicating with fellow employees about improving working conditions. The purpose of the memo was to persuade Google to abandon certain diversity-related practices the engineer found objectionable and to convince co-workers to join his cause, or at least discuss the points he raised.

the engineer added to his memo: "Despite what the public response seems to have been, I've gotten many personal messages from fellow Googlers expressing their gratitude for bringing up these very important issues which they agree with but would never have the courage to say or defend because of our shaming culture and the possibility of being fired." The law protects that kind of "concerted activity."

Second, the engineer's memo largely is a statement of his political views as they apply to workplace policies. The memo is styled as a lament to "Google's Ideological Echo Chamber." California law prohibits employers from threatening to fire employees to get them to adopt or refrain from adopting a particular political course of action.

Third, the engineer complained in parts of his memo about company policies that he believes violate employment discrimination laws. Those policies include support programs limited by race or gender and promotional and hiring scoring policies that consider race and gender. It is unlawful for an employer to discipline an employee for challenging conduct that the employee reasonably believed to be discriminatory, even when a court later determines the conduct was not actually prohibited by the discrimination laws.
 
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