Youtube Institutes Monetization Changes - ....Really?

So earlier today, Youtube rolled out changes to its monetization setup:

Reading these, you can immediately see that they're ambiguous enough to allow widespread demonetization of virtually everything and then some. But a recent vid by Phillip DeFranco, and reports by several other YouTubers has revealed a pattern in the channels getting demonetized:

I'm hoping to Christ that this pattern isn't as insane as it seems at a glance, because fuck, man.

 

[BatNapalm]

Can't they just purge this site altogether and demonetize everything? That way some of the whiners could get out finding real jobs?

Speaking of, I get a major case of the douche chills whenever I see someone putting "Content Creator" under their work history on LinkedIn with "YouTube" as their employer.

Because honestly, I don't believe you should be able to make a career out of just filming yourself playing video games

I agree but at the same time, there can't be all that many who actually make a living doing that.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

S A L T Y

I take it the further we go down this hole, we'll be seeing videos from Chris and MovieBob?

 

[Peace and Harmony]

People don't seem to get that if you aren't paying to use a service, you are not the customer. You are the product. The customer is the one who's paying. In this case, that's the advertisers. If the advertisers are paying to have their ads on some content, and they say "But I don't want those janky ones over there," YouTube is going to do that shit. In fact, they're going to take active measures to keep those guys happy.

Indeed YouTube is beholden primarily to its advertisers since that's the main source of their income, but where the logic sort of takes a nosedive is this collective blob of "advertisers" somehow unanimously saying that they don't want their products or services associated with a person who makes a comment on politics or the news. It makes sense if videos of Sonichu medallions being shoved up one's anus are being demonetised, but I want to know which "advertisers" are in such a hurry to distance themselves from people who are commenting on social issues, regardless of whatever position they might take. I think that's the problem here.

 

[Durable Mike Malloy]

Yeah sure, doesn't mean people aren't gonna be pissed. It's easy to go say, go make a channel on another website if you don't like it. Go make your own youtube. So who's gonna come with you? Why should anyone go there? They don't give a shit about the adsense stuff, they only care about watching cool vids, all the cool vids are on youtube. You think PewDiePie, DeFranco, and FineBros are gonna take half the YT viewership with them or something?

It's not 2006 anymore, its not "there are no girls on the internet" "guys sitting in a forum talking about dnd alignments. Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, you are not on the big 3, you are nobody.

Some people get their enjoyment in life from video games youtube. Youtube isn't just videos, it's experiences. It's adventurers, challenges. It gives you something to do, something to achieve. For the most part, my life would be dull and hollow without youtube. And before you say "lol go make friends and get a life," this IS my life, a strong part of it that is. A necessary part. I can't form relationships due to severe social anxiety, very few interests, and beliefs that make me incompatible with the vast majority of the population.

So don't say "it's just youtube," because for some people, it fills a void in their lives that nothing else can.

 

[Trans Fat 41g]

It used to be a great educational portal until certain levels of professionalism started ticking the copyright or some other terms of service bullshit. Anything before 2012 or 2009 that can be considered useful information is canned/taken down because it hurts someone else's feelings.

Now we get Top Lists and Reactions to world news.

 

[AnOminous]

Indeed YouTube is beholden primarily to its advertisers since that's the main source of their income, but where the logic sort of takes a nosedive is this collective blob of "advertisers" somehow unanimously saying that they don't want their products or services associated with a person who makes a comment on politics or the news. It makes sense if videos of Sonichu medallions being shoved up one's anus are being demonetised, but I want to know which "advertisers" are in such a hurry to distance themselves from people who are commenting on social issues, regardless of whatever position they might take. I think that's the problem here.

Part of my point is that they're going to take active measures to keep these people happy, whether or not it's directly in response to a request by some particular advertiser. This is why they're going to retain normie advertisers of the sort you see in front of so many monetized YouTube videos (unless you are a leech like me and install an adblocker specifically to autoskip ads on YouTube).

Compare to something like 4chan. Absolutely nobody is going to advertise on 4chan unless they're completely aware they're selling to a bunch of fucking degenerates and that's mainly shit like J-list selling Pocky to weebs and Bad Dragon type operations selling horse dildos to bronies. This will pay connection costs and keep the site afloat. It will not make anyone rich.

YouTube, and Google in general, is operated to make a lot of people very, very rich. They have had unprecedented success in monetizing content. They will be absolutely ruthless in doing that and don't care who they piss off or how they do it, so long as the people they piss off are not generating them money, or are at least not generating them more money than they're making by doing whatever pisses them off.

If they ever fuck up that balance, they go the way of digg, but I don't see that happening. At least not unless this Red shit sucks even more than I think it will. (Personally, I'll drop dead before I ever pay a dime to watch some autist make a fool of himself on YouTube.)

 

[lolwut]

Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, you are not on the big 3, you are nobody.

...Are you literally retarded?

 

[Chubby_Penguin]

I'm wondering if we're going to see some people put trailers/previews of their own work on YouTube and then just put links to their own website and maybe patreon in the description. (That's what I'd do if I had a "controversial" channel anyway.)

It used to be a great educational portal until certain levels of professionalism started ticking the copyright or some other terms of service bullshit

Yeah, I use to watch documentaries people put up, but eventually most of the ones from unverified channels got taken down. At least there's still some stuff from National Geographic's channel for me to go through.

 

[Peace and Harmony]

Part of my point is that they're going to take active measures to keep these people happy, whether or not it's directly in response to a request by some particular advertiser. This is why they're going to retain normie advertisers of the sort you see in front of so many monetized YouTube videos (unless you are a leech like me and install an adblocker specifically to autoskip ads on YouTube).

I know what you're saying but as far as I can tell, the people who have been seeing their videos getting de-monetised aren't exactly making 4chan-esque shock content, and I'm also saying that it's weird that YouTube would have in their TOS that people should avoid commenting on "politically sensitive" material or whatever the fuck that means. Like, are these same advertisers also going to be turned off from advertising on Fox News or CNN because they don't want to think that they are tacitly endorsing ISIS or something?

Your argument is correct in principle that YouTube needs to please the advertisers first, but again I think the issue here is why YouTube seems to think that it's an appropriate measure to consider political or social commentary to be "advertiser unfriendly". It's not exactly gore or tranny strip shows that these YouTubers are doing.

 

[CatParty]

Like, are these same advertisers also going to be turned off from advertising on Fox News or CNN

no because those are professional companies with viewers of millions

 

[Splendid]

Who cares? The whole root nameserver concept has been obsolete and broken for literally fucking decades.

It's time to replace it with something decentralized. This just creates an impetus to do that finally.

There must be a canonical reference for domain name resolution that is utterly neutral, or else what's the difference between a computer suffering from a dns poisoning attack and any other computer?

 

[ColorfulCassowary]

Couldn't these people just make patreons instead? Quite a few of these people who've bashed this new policy, like YourMovieSucks, has a patreon, so what are they complaining about?

 

[AnOminous]

I know what you're saying but as far as I can tell, the people who have been seeing their videos getting de-monetised aren't exactly making 4chan-esque shock content, and I'm also saying that it's weird that YouTube would have in their TOS that people should avoid commenting on "politically sensitive" material or whatever the fuck that means. Like, are these same advertisers also going to be turned off from advertising on Fox News or CNN because they don't want to think that they are tacitly endorsing ISIS or something?

Your argument is correct in principle that YouTube needs to please the advertisers first, but again I think the issue here is why YouTube seems to think that it's an appropriate measure to consider political or social commentary to be "advertiser unfriendly". It's not exactly gore or tranny strip shows that these YouTubers are doing.

Fox has definitely alienated a lot of advertisers, and so has MSN. CNN is as bland as you can get and still pretend to be even doing "news." Whatever that means these days. This is why I just ignore that shit. It's not news any more.

Eventually there will be more nuanced ways advertisers can delve down into the media they want to get their message to, and ways messages that need money can dig back up to get their bandwith paid.

In the meantime, we can just figure out what we think for ourselves. Anyone who takes the news media seriously at all at this point needs to examine their head. So does anyone who seriously depends on operations like YouTube to eke out some weird kind of living.

There must be a canonical reference for domain name resolution that is utterly neutral, or else what's the difference between a computer suffering from a dns poisoning attack and any other computer?

Nothing.

I can live with a degree of uncertainty. Can you?

In any event, shit that dire will have a solution. The best solution will win. Isn't this the definition of a free market?

 

[VortekPMD]

Fuck YouTube and the Youtubers who think this is an income to live off of. I don't want to watch some hairy pale fuck who lives in an apartment with no furniture and stupid movie posters giving opinions they have no experiences in.

All this nigga wants is salt. Don't feel sorry for these hoes. For years they flaunt that they have this life and opportunities and now you have to play by the site's rules, wewewewew. I want more salt!

 

[Sanae Kochiya]

Yeah sure, doesn't mean people aren't gonna be pissed. It's easy to go say, go make a channel on another website if you don't like it. Go make your own youtube. So who's gonna come with you? Why should anyone go there? They don't give a shit about the adsense stuff, they only care about watching cool vids, all the cool vids are on youtube. You think PewDiePie, DeFranco, and FineBros are gonna take half the YT viewership with them or something?

It's not 2006 anymore, its not "there are no girls on the internet" "guys sitting in a forum talking about dnd alignments. Youtube, Facebook, Reddit, you are not on the big 3, you are nobody.

Some people get their enjoyment in life fro-

Some people get their enjoyment in life from video games youtube. Youtube isn't just videos, it's experiences. It's adventurers, challenges. It gives you something to do, something to achieve. For the most part, my life would be dull and hollow without youtube. And before you say "lol go make friends and get a life," this IS my life, a strong part of it that is. A necessary part. I can't form relationships due to severe social anxiety, very few interests, and beliefs that make me incompatible with the vast majority of the population.

So don't say "it's just youtube," because for some people, it fills a void in their lives that nothing else can.

OH FUCK YOU I WANTED TO DO IT.

 

[AnOminous]

Some people get their enjoyment in life fro-


OH FUCK YOU I WANTED TO DO IT.

It's all about timing.

 

[Brandobaris]

I frankly don't care. in fact, I am enjoying all the delicious salt from this. Especially from Let's Players.

Because honestly, I don't believe you should be able to make a career out of just filming yourself playing video games

Aren't let's players, unboxers, and the like, the least affected by these policy implementations?

 

[Quijibo69]

I knew this was going to happen sooner or later:

RIP Internet

oct,29,1969 to oct,1,2016

 

[Hodor]

so everyone is just going to start uploading their videos to pornhub now, right

 

[Pickle Inspector]

I take it the further we go down this hole, we'll be seeing videos from Chris and MovieBob?

Chris was never smart enough to monetize his videos despite people recommending him to do so.

It's a shame since weens used to get really angry at the thought of Chris making money on them and it might have incentivised him to make more.