YouTube is removing the dislike count on all videos across its platform - YouTube believes the change will better protect its creators from harassment and reduce the threat of what it calls “dislike attacks” — essentially, when a group teams up to drive up the number of dislikes a video receives.

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YouTube today announced its decision to make the “dislike” count on videos private across its platform. The decision is likely to be controversial given the extent that it impacts the public’s visibility into a video’s reception. But YouTube believes the change will better protect its creators from harassment and reduce the threat of what it calls “dislike attacks” — essentially, when a group teams up to drive up the number of dislikes a video receives.

The company says that while dislike counts won’t be visible to the public, it’s not removing the dislike button itself. Users can still click the thumbs down button on videos to signal their dislike to creators privately. Meanwhile, creators will be able to track their dislikes in YouTube Studio alongside other analytics about their video’s performance, if they choose.

The change follows an experiment YouTube ran earlier this year whose goal was to determine if these sorts of changes would reduce dislike attacks and creator harassment.

At the time, YouTube explained that public dislike counts can affect creators’ well-being and may motivate targeted campaigns to add dislikes to videos. While that’s true, dislikes can also serve as a signal to others when videos are clickbait, spam or misleading, which can be useful.

YouTube said it had also heard from smaller creators and others who were just getting started on the platform that they felt they were being unfairly targeted by dislike attacks. The experiment confirmed this was true — creators with smaller channels were targeted with dislike attacks more than larger creators were.

YouTube declined to share the specific details or the data collected through those experiments when TechCrunch asked, however. But it said it ran its tests for “multiple months” and conducted “in-depth analysis of the impact” as to how the changes affected both users and creators alike.

The company had experimented with different designs for removing the dislike counts, including one where the word “Dislike” appeared underneath the thumbs down button instead of the number of dislikes. This is the design the company has now settled on, which is less of a disruptive change to the row of engagement buttons beneath a video.

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The company would not be the first major platform to experiment with the idea of reducing the public visibility of signals that convey user sentiment. For similar mental health-related reasons, Instagram a couple of years ago began tests to hide its Like counts globally. It believed the focus on achieving Likes could be detrimental to its community and may make creators less comfortable expressing themselves on the platform. Ultimately, though, neither Facebook nor Instagram could fully commit to a decision and instead put the power to hide Likes back under users’ control — a move that effectively kept the status quo intact.

YouTube’s changes to the “dislike” count are being introduced at a time when there’s been a public reckoning over big tech and its impact on mental health, particularly when it comes to minors. Companies have been rethinking how their systems are designed to target and influence their user base, as well as what sort of changes they can make ahead of coming regulations. In a number of markets, lawmakers have been dragging in tech execs to hearings — YouTube included — and are crafting legislation aimed at reigning in some of tech’s more problematic elements. Mental health is only one area of regulatory interest, though, along with ad targeting, privacy, algorithmic boosting of misinformation and more.

In YouTube’s case, the company has attempted to get ahead of some of the required changes by implementing increased protections and privacy features for users ages 13 to 17 while also decreasing the monetization potential for “unhealthy” kids’ content. But the larger shift in the market is also pushing companies to consider the other areas of their platforms that are potentially toxic to broad groups of people.

That said, YouTube told TechCrunch today’s removal of the dislike count is not being guided by any regulatory changes, but rather its support for creators.

“We are proactively making this change because YouTube has a responsibility to protect creators, especially smaller creators, from harassment and dislike attacks,” a spokesperson said.

The company, of course, is also rolling this out when the battle for creator talent is becoming hugely competitive among tech giants. Today’s social platforms are establishing funds to retain their top creators amid increased competition, particularly from the growing threat of TikTok. YouTube this year announced a $100 million creator fund to jumpstart its short-form video platform, for example. And, over the past year or so, it’s introduced several new features and policies aimed at improving the creator experience.

The changes to the dislike count will roll out globally across YouTube’s platform starting today, including all devices and the web.


 
I wanted to see the ratio on videos involving Trump, but they seem to have deleted any traces of him.
There's an archive channel. New copies of each video so that will skew the stats, but that makes the fact that Trump views outnumber Biden views even more glorious.

Allegedly moving videos to an archive channel is normal and they did that to Obama too, so for once it's not deliberate fuckery.

They're removing dislikes on the official announcement
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Sounds like a trap. If people like it, they got a green light. If people dislike it, that's proof that they need to remove the feature.
 
"Smaller creators" like Disney, who are sick of their SW and MCU movies getting ratioed? Or "smaller creators" like all the "woke" video game developers who are sick of their SJW game trailers get ratioed? Shall I go on?
I think I have never seen any real small channel bombarded with dislikes. Even if the content is bad, it's at most 60/40 in general. Maybe because small channels have a small crowd of followers that are a loyal audience so they still enjoy the content no matter what or that only want to be supportive.

So you are correct.
 
The real question is when will people just stop using YouTube.

The website lost its soul post 2013 or 2014 after the success that a lot of tech bros at the time had against the Obama administration over SOPA and PIPA.

I'm genuinely shocked over how the whole free internet movement has just died as soon as Trump won lol.

Liberals in the current era no longer believe in the 1st amendment as they did fervently during the Bush and Obama years to some extent.

Also Women as CEOs really are disasters.
 
@Null ,pin this, this is going to be a HUGE step forward with hugboxes and echo chambers. When will Facebook and so follow suit I wonder?
Edit: Just when the Rittenhouse trial has progressed unfavorably to the system? Interesting timing. A tentative first step in something larger perhaps?
I think its has to do with companies getting their videos down voted as well.
 
You say this while Facebook (meta whatever), twitter and reddit have male CEOs and they still suck ass with shit decisions.
Either way CEOs are dumb.
Well I was thinking of Youtube in this case and Reddit as well when Pao was running the show though I guess there is some truth to the theory, she was a fall guy or plant for Spez. Well that is the thing, Susan and Pao kept fucking with shit a bit too much for comfort and super fast compared to Facebook and Twitter just slowly boiling it.

The difference between YouTube in this case and the Facebook, Reddit and Twitter is that Youtube is joining Netflix into making the site unrecognizable from what it was 10 years ago in terms of its GUI and basic shit like a dislike button.

Facebook, Twitter and Reddit haven't changed their features much, just use jannies and algorithms to ban shit that they don't like.

Youtube is going beyond that by destroying something so basic, that if Youtube did this when it was first starting to gain traction, it would have died out and something else would have replaced it. Also things were much different back then and it wasn't so fucked as it is now.
 
So how will I tell which videos are trying to get me to download malware, or phish my information?
According to YouTube,
Big sigh, scams are not allowed on YouTube, so this isn't the experience we want you (or anyone!) to have.
If possible, can you share video/channel URLs (also happy to DM and get the info privately as that's likely better – just let us know). We’ll report this for you.

In all seriousness, this whole thing is most likely just made just for the sake of profitability.
 
According to YouTube,
Big sigh, scams are not allowed on YouTube, so this isn't the experience we want you (or anyone!) to have.
If possible, can you share video/channel URLs (also happy to DM and get the info privately as that's likely better – just let us know). We’ll report this for you.

In all seriousness, this whole thing is most likely just made just for the sake of profitability.
That was the non-canned response version. There's a canned response variant (that seems to have variants to it much like the "were protecting small creators" one that some people actually replied to with links to shitloads of scam videos that will not be taken down.

"Will search this (& plz report via flagging tool as well)! If helpful in the meantime, the like count and comments will still be visible to help you get a feel for other viewers’ opinions, warnings, etc on the video."

Not sure how much of this is the standard script but a friend linked me this one after I ltold them about the other one thinking they had eased up and I was like "no you don't understand this is one of the repetitive replies as far as I know the one time it was a visible conscious human response it was that big sigh shit."
 
It's very helpful when looking up tech related tutorials. There's thousands that either don't work or will cause more problems. There's plenty that are just ads for malware.

People looking up pet care videos also benefit from the dislike bar. You can tell at a glance if the bearded dragon care guide will be less helpful than a stoned employee at Petsmart. Hermit crab care videos have a 50/50 chance of being some jackass reading out a 2000's era pamphlet or actually informative.
Those dislikes were especially helpful for children who looked up videos on how to download Minecraft for free and wanted to avoid a virus. Like myself.
 
This is 100% about protection for themselves, the megacorps/celebs, and Dem/political allies.

The megacorps absolutely hate those times where they make a misstep and they endure the embarrassment of a low rated video. Look at Blizzard et al.

Youtube is one of the last remaining big platforms where nonPOZZed commentators have yet to be purged to a minority. So a lot of Biden/MSM videos regularly get downvoted.

Youtube of course gets massively downvoted in many/most of its high profile videos as they double down on their 'we'll do whatever we feel like and f*(k what our users think' approach. So the appeal is obvious for themselves.

All the weak issues they raise in defense of this move can already be solved much better by disabling likes and dislikes but they know their masters won't be satisfied with this.

scammers and lolcows love this of course but they benefit as a side effect. The safespace g00gle wants to create is ultimately for the big boys as they continue their ultimate quest to turn the internet into TV 2.0
 
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