YouTube is removing the dislike count on all videos across its platform - YouTube believes the change will better protect its creators from harassment and reduce the threat of what it calls “dislike attacks” — essentially, when a group teams up to drive up the number of dislikes a video receives.

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YouTube today announced its decision to make the “dislike” count on videos private across its platform. The decision is likely to be controversial given the extent that it impacts the public’s visibility into a video’s reception. But YouTube believes the change will better protect its creators from harassment and reduce the threat of what it calls “dislike attacks” — essentially, when a group teams up to drive up the number of dislikes a video receives.

The company says that while dislike counts won’t be visible to the public, it’s not removing the dislike button itself. Users can still click the thumbs down button on videos to signal their dislike to creators privately. Meanwhile, creators will be able to track their dislikes in YouTube Studio alongside other analytics about their video’s performance, if they choose.

The change follows an experiment YouTube ran earlier this year whose goal was to determine if these sorts of changes would reduce dislike attacks and creator harassment.

At the time, YouTube explained that public dislike counts can affect creators’ well-being and may motivate targeted campaigns to add dislikes to videos. While that’s true, dislikes can also serve as a signal to others when videos are clickbait, spam or misleading, which can be useful.

YouTube said it had also heard from smaller creators and others who were just getting started on the platform that they felt they were being unfairly targeted by dislike attacks. The experiment confirmed this was true — creators with smaller channels were targeted with dislike attacks more than larger creators were.

YouTube declined to share the specific details or the data collected through those experiments when TechCrunch asked, however. But it said it ran its tests for “multiple months” and conducted “in-depth analysis of the impact” as to how the changes affected both users and creators alike.

The company had experimented with different designs for removing the dislike counts, including one where the word “Dislike” appeared underneath the thumbs down button instead of the number of dislikes. This is the design the company has now settled on, which is less of a disruptive change to the row of engagement buttons beneath a video.

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The company would not be the first major platform to experiment with the idea of reducing the public visibility of signals that convey user sentiment. For similar mental health-related reasons, Instagram a couple of years ago began tests to hide its Like counts globally. It believed the focus on achieving Likes could be detrimental to its community and may make creators less comfortable expressing themselves on the platform. Ultimately, though, neither Facebook nor Instagram could fully commit to a decision and instead put the power to hide Likes back under users’ control — a move that effectively kept the status quo intact.

YouTube’s changes to the “dislike” count are being introduced at a time when there’s been a public reckoning over big tech and its impact on mental health, particularly when it comes to minors. Companies have been rethinking how their systems are designed to target and influence their user base, as well as what sort of changes they can make ahead of coming regulations. In a number of markets, lawmakers have been dragging in tech execs to hearings — YouTube included — and are crafting legislation aimed at reigning in some of tech’s more problematic elements. Mental health is only one area of regulatory interest, though, along with ad targeting, privacy, algorithmic boosting of misinformation and more.

In YouTube’s case, the company has attempted to get ahead of some of the required changes by implementing increased protections and privacy features for users ages 13 to 17 while also decreasing the monetization potential for “unhealthy” kids’ content. But the larger shift in the market is also pushing companies to consider the other areas of their platforms that are potentially toxic to broad groups of people.

That said, YouTube told TechCrunch today’s removal of the dislike count is not being guided by any regulatory changes, but rather its support for creators.

“We are proactively making this change because YouTube has a responsibility to protect creators, especially smaller creators, from harassment and dislike attacks,” a spokesperson said.

The company, of course, is also rolling this out when the battle for creator talent is becoming hugely competitive among tech giants. Today’s social platforms are establishing funds to retain their top creators amid increased competition, particularly from the growing threat of TikTok. YouTube this year announced a $100 million creator fund to jumpstart its short-form video platform, for example. And, over the past year or so, it’s introduced several new features and policies aimed at improving the creator experience.

The changes to the dislike count will roll out globally across YouTube’s platform starting today, including all devices and the web.


 
I fully expect that Google will keep track of whether the videos that any given account dislikes are more mainstream or... "divergent", and will assign people internal social credit scores accordingly.

Not that they aren't already doing that, but I would not be shocked if they thought the people who continue to hit the dislike after the change are extra hardcore so maybe those ones even get reported to big brother.
Maybe more people will wise up and just not sign in to an account, or only use anonymous accounts not tied to their identity. I know I've always been kinda paranoid about that, so very few websites have any of my actual personal information.
 
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Right now the like count seems to be nearly mirroring the dislike count minus an extra thousand digit mark. It's been acting weird compared to the dislikes with how it goes up in spurts but this is getting ridiculous now.
 
I can still see number of dislikes on videos I've watched.
Is Youtube being slow about this or something?
Seems to be the case. They initially said they'd be doing it "immediately following the announcement" but have gone completely radio silent since with the video getting disliked to hell and universal backlash occuring. I'm guessing they either forgot, something broke, or they're waiting till people stop talking about it being a bad idea to quietly shove it through like they've done with other big updates nobody wanted that they pushed through anyways and claimed people supported.
 

YouTube Co-Founder Believes Removing Dislikes 'Is A Stupid Decision' And Changes Description Of First Video To Protest​

YouTube will stop showing "dislikes" to stop bullying.

YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim updated the description of the first video uploaded to Alphabet 's video platform titled "Me at the Zoo" to criticize the platform's decision to stop displaying dislikes publicly.

“When all youtubers agree that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube , "reads the new description of the first YouTube video ever.


This update on the world's most popular media service's first video comes days after it announced that it will not publicly display video dislikes on its site. You can keep clicking "finger down", but you will not see the final count of them.

Karim co-founded YouTube in 2005 with Chad Hurley and Steve Chen , whom he met while working at PayPal. They then sold the site to Google for $ 1.65 billion in 2006.

It is not the first time that Karim has used the video to criticize the changes on YouTube. In 2013 I use it to reproach the need to open a Google+ account to be able to comment on the videos.


 

YouTube Co-Founder Believes Removing Dislikes 'Is A Stupid Decision' And Changes Description Of First Video To Protest​

YouTube will stop showing "dislikes" to stop bullying.

YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim updated the description of the first video uploaded to Alphabet 's video platform titled "Me at the Zoo" to criticize the platform's decision to stop displaying dislikes publicly.

“When all youtubers agree that removing dislikes is a stupid idea, it probably is. Try again, YouTube , "reads the new description of the first YouTube video ever.


This update on the world's most popular media service's first video comes days after it announced that it will not publicly display video dislikes on its site. You can keep clicking "finger down", but you will not see the final count of them.

Karim co-founded YouTube in 2005 with Chad Hurley and Steve Chen , whom he met while working at PayPal. They then sold the site to Google for $ 1.65 billion in 2006.

It is not the first time that Karim has used the video to criticize the changes on YouTube. In 2013 I use it to reproach the need to open a Google+ account to be able to comment on the videos.


Great gesture but still skeptical. Jawed channel has been hacked like alot of times.

And is he not having any presence at all on the internet besides his channel? Like holy shit for a kind of people like him.
 
It is not the first time that Karim has used the video to criticize the changes on YouTube. In 2013 I use it to reproach the need to open a Google+ account to be able to comment on the videos.
If that isn't proof of his wisdom on how YouTube should be handled, I don't know what is.
 
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Not sure if youtube changed anything, but isn't showing up for me.
Really dumb thing to do. Watch lots of scam shit pop up and people fall for it because there is no dislike bar to indicate that the video is bad.
 
I'm really surprised it took them this long to do. Most places had gotten rid of downvoting/a dislike option years and years ago.
 
Well, I finally see it now.

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You have the number of likes seen, but for the dislikes, it just says “Dislike”.

It really defeats the purpose of pressing the dislike button on YouTube if you private it, especially since there’s already a function where you can keep videos you don’t like from showing up on your feed, therefore serving the same goal.
 
If they're removing dislikes, can they at least go back to the 5-star rating system? I know this change was made to protect the images of corporations and favored politicians, and not really about improving the experience for the core user baser, but it would still be nice.
The reason they got rid of the 5 star system is smoothbrains only rated vids either 5 stars or 1 star - effectively making it thumbs up or thumbs down in practice.
 
Posted this in the Internet & Technology thread, but there’s a site that allows you to see both likes and dislikes:


I was actually surprised that something like this existed all this time, yet I never noticed it.
 
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