Youtube Unveils new Youtube Heroes Program - Gives "Superusers" priority flags and access to staff

A lot of people are arguing that whilst Google has fucked up a lot with Youtube in the past, this may be one of, if not the biggest fuck up yet, and that's saying a lot given prior history on the matter. What am I discussing here? The new Youtube Heroes Program:


Info on the new program is here:

Each YouTube Hero who is in compliance with these Rules will be able to earn points for every qualifying contribution to YouTube (such as accurately flagging inappropriate content), that is verifiable and organic, and not gamed, improperly received or otherwise in violation of these Rules, including the YouTube Community Guidelines (each a “Qualifying Contribution”). We will determine each qualifying Contribution.

Any abuse of the point system, the Program, or other violative behavior, may reduce the points accrued in your program account and/or restrict or prohibit any aspect of your participation in the Program.

TL;DR: This new program gives a much greater degree of power to users based on two factors:

1. How much time they spend browsing Youtube.

2. How much the user is willing to seek out shit that offends them in order to specifically flag it.

I wonder what ideology we've repeatedly covered due to lolcow involvement fills those exact requirements.
 
A lot of people are arguing that whilst Google has fucked up a lot with Youtube in the past, this may be one of, if not the biggest fuck up yet, and that's saying a lot given prior history on the matter. What am I discussing here? The new Youtube Heroes Program:


Info on the new program is here:



TL;DR: This new program gives a much greater degree of power to users based on two factors:

1. How much time they spend browsing Youtube.

2. How much the user is willing to seek out shit that offends them in order to specifically flag it.

I wonder what ideology we've repeatedly covered due to lolcow involvement fills those exact requirements.
"Welcome to Youtube Heroes: Because our staff couldn't be fucked with it, and our content ID system is shit."
 
Welp.

Anybody know a good way to direct download videos into mp4 format? Might as well start making a time capsule of Brote's channel.
I've been satisfied using videodownloadhelper. For normal files it works fine, for those bullshit ones that are hard to download it puts a stupid watermark unless you pay for it.
 
Well.

I certainly wasn't expecting YouTube to solve the "it's too easy to get videos removed for no good reason" problem by taking the "fuck you, you do it then!" route.
I dont get it. How is this less work if they have to verify it themselves? I mean I guess you could point to a time code or something but context matters and shit and a smapshot of a moment in time is not necessarily a indication of the value of the whole video. Are they gonna take down 2 hour long videos because someone said the n-word once for a total of 2 seconds of the video? The better idea would be just to censor that two seconds of audio but that seems too time consuming and intricate for youtube to do.

I can see this being abused by both the left and the right. The requirements of being a "Hero" dont seem to be too hard to unlike Wikipedia who have SJW gatekeepers. Now that everyone knows that SJWs became the gatekeepers to everything I bet the right is gonna jump on this fast. Both sides will fight a war over this and its all gonna be too much for youtube to manage. Theyre going from managing inappropriate videos to managing a bunch of raging autists
 
Its not and SJW conspiracy its just about being cheap. Checking flags is time consuming and costly and they're offloading the effort back to the users. Whether letting powerusers police things is a good idea or not is something else but Its not nefarious lol

I don't believe that this is some kind of intentional sjw conspiracy by Youtube but I do believe this will eventually allow certain users with an agenda to create an echo chamber and alienate a wider audience. See Tumblr, Livejournal, blogspot, ect.
 
I don't believe that this is some kind of intentional sjw conspiracy by Youtube but I do believe this will eventually allow certain users with an agenda to create an echo chamber and alienate a wider audience. See Tumblr, Livejournal, blogspot, ect.

Youtube's a massive site. You're gonna get echo chambers regardless. I don't think this is gonna make it better or worse.
 
I don't believe that this is some kind of intentional sjw conspiracy by Youtube but I do believe this will eventually allow certain users with an agenda to create an echo chamber and alienate a wider audience. See Tumblr, Livejournal, blogspot, ect.


anyone can use it. just take the initiative and become a hero.
 
Youtube and Google are terrifying with their awful policies.

Twitter's at least bound for death. Youtube and Google make Microsoft's monopoly in the 90s look reasonable. Who knows if they'll ever be stopped.

Is there anything pcshit doesn't ruin?
A tree just fell in the Rockies with no one to hear it.
 
good. let the community police itself. it's a smart business move. sorry it's not your sjw conspiracy

No offense, Cat, but while I respect your attempt to inject some stability and to mock people for a rush to judgment here, I'm not inclined to dismiss that as mere conspiracy after the shit we've already seen happen multiple times this year alone. Moreover, the issue people take here is that we've already seen this kind of thing implemented on other sites.

Wikipedia, most notably.

Users on Wikipedia are rated on number of edits, not the quality thereof, so this allows the worst offenders to still have a big say in goings-on, even if the user in question is directly involved with causing issues. Even in the case of someone provably in a conflict-of-interest like Ryulong or someone who's just an open tard like Mark Bernstein, it can be a nightmare to leverage any real ability to hinder these problem users with the way this sort of thing angles out. Because they can stack arbitrations with friendly voices, they can often linger like a fucking metastasized tumor for years before any appreciable action is taken, even if they get caught red-handed. Hell, even if they do get banhammered, they often have led to a fucking permanent occupation by their buddies on the same articles.

An ongoing meme is that the way that Wikipedia's own system is set up right now has made it essentially impossible to salvage without banning basically everyone on it and re-writing a huge number of articles from scratch with rigorously enforced NPOV. Even the most conservative estimates of trying to fix the site state that there's an uphill battle ahead to save it.

It's not just Wikipedia, either. Community moderation has been tried on other platforms before, and it always, without exception, fucking fails unless it has aggressive oversight. Eventually, some vocal group or another will hit a critical mass size-wise, and then find a way to game the system, and the result is something we've all seen before, especially if you were active on political sites over the last decade. It's easy to be worried about Social Justice morons here, but we could just as easily see the /pol/ crowd try the same shit, and it would suck just as badly.

With this said, people are right to be worried. I'll agree with you that they probably should wait for more information to come in, so we don't see a repeat of some of the past non-issue worries (lol Youtube Red), but given the implications of what a system like this could do, you're going to see people in alarm bell mode, and for good reason.

I'll acknowledge that it's alarmist to immediately assume the worst on this one, but given how Google's history and increasing willingness to appease a small minority of unpleasant fucks, how do you expect people to take it? We already are in a world where coverage of certain parties has gotten mass-reported off Youtube, where posting a picture of John Flynt can get you permabanned from Twitter, and where posting on the wrong forum on Reddit will get you banned from like 12 others subreddits due to block bots.

There is an upside, though: It'll give us more sperging to cover at any rate.
 
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