"Zero Punctuation" and "Dev Diary" by Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw - The only thing worth watching on The Escapist

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I'm honestly glad to see it all end. I grew up on Yahtzee, his taste in games and literature matched my own and he exposed me to a lot of art that I like. But fuck man, there's a time for things to die and Escapist was well past that IMO.
As for Yahtzee, he will be perfectly fine writing his books, making his games, and raising his kid. He has long stated that ZP is just a job and he still did it for the money. He has enough sense that he won't be hurting anytime soon.
Time moves on.
 
I'm honestly glad to see it all end. I grew up on Yahtzee, his taste in games and literature matched my own and he exposed me to a lot of art that I like. But fuck man, there's a time for things to die and Escapist was well past that IMO.
As for Yahtzee, he will be perfectly fine writing his books, making his games, and raising his kid. He has long stated that ZP is just a job and he still did it for the money. He has enough sense that he won't be hurting anytime soon.
Time moves on.
I mean, the not hurting part depends. I doubt anyone will care much for his books or games, unless he's ready to live off his rich wives money.
 
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My favorite thing about Yahtzee has always been what he can do with language: wordplay, metaphor, simile, double-entendre, sense and reference, trailing off, trailing in, bathtub gin, etc. When he allowed his wife and Nick to tranny-poz-corpo-whip him, he fell off in his abilities to do this(funny how that works). He's been a shell of his former self for years and now here we are, everything's fucked. Probably some tranny discord groomer shit, but who knows. Let us remember and laugh at the good ol' days while we speculate and laugh at this current shit-show.

Pay extra-close attention from the 3:45 mark onwards. Cheers.
 
So what happened?
the reason given by Nick is that he was fired for "not achieving goals", which reads like corpo speak for "we just want you gone".
I read it as, "the interest rate went up from a 40-year historic low to a normal amount, and there's less money to be wasted on shit that has no real return." Mind you, that's the entirety of The Escapist minus Yahtzee, and in the modern environment maybe not even him. Feels like a ploy to shutter a liability, which you'll see repeated in plenty of other places.
Does yathzee have the drive anymore to be reborn from the ashes?
He's been coasting for at least five years in this job, so I wouldn't really describe his work acumen as drive so much as "I can do almost nothing and still make a good salary, so whatever."
You can't copyright an art style.
reeeeeetarded take
Mind you, I don't like that it's a thing people can do, personally.
It's why you can make all sorts of fun "George Floyd fucks Anne Frank in the style of Pixar" images on Stable Diffusion.
Try to profit off of them. Go ahead, try. Of course no-one gives a shit if you aren't making money, or if you aren't using it to defame someone.

Every artist that has made a famous comic or animated series has to spend some amount of time dealing with c&ds aimed at people yoinking their style.
These hold up in court, hence why the c&ds oftentimes work to dissuade people from continuing to the point of legal proceedings.

Yes, if you are small enough, you can get away with it. But the moment you gain any notoriety, you will get attention. Disney is the prime case for this - parody is protected, but parody also has certain (boring) stipulations that Yahtzee doing a direct continuation of his old schpiel wouldn't hold.
 
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Random thought here with the biggest reaction image being trans flags. In his 2013 review of Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons there was a joke that went "the gameplay is best described as single-player co-op, and I know that sounds like saying 'I'm not gay, I only suck off pre-op transsexuals' but is" (the video was reuploaded within a week with "pre-op transexuals" replaced with "pantomime dames"). The joke caused a shitshow on the Escapist's forum and it was one of my first run ins with transsexual degeneracy. I distinctly remember the abject shock I felt after I saw the dude on page 4 who claimed sucking his "girlfriend's" cock was a completely heterosexual act. Thank you Mr. Croshaw for sending me on the path that led me to this lovely farm.
The segment on if it is straight to date trans women reminded me of this.
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good times
 
Yathzee had no reason to hold the rights to ZP, since he's the only person that can make it work. If he were to get fired or leave by his own, then he would just move to something else, like books amd programming, it's not like Kojima that had literally nothing after he was fired from Konami, holding no rights to ZP simply ensures that he can work on new shit, instead of doing that forever.
 
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I've been waiting for this moment for about fifteen years, and I'm extremely annoyed that it happened in solidarity with Nick being fired for being a useless faggot. He's so fucking worthless, with nothing interesting to say, yet also determined to insert himself into content wherever possible. He did a shit job of running The Escapist and no one would have mourned his loss.

A much more satisfying conclusion would have been Yahtzee simply jumping ship to do his own show independently, and The Escapist subsequently imploding. But I guess we have to take what we get.
 
Yahtzee losing the ability to produce ZP is a blessing in disguise.

I remember tuning into the series regularly back in the early 2010s, but slowly stopped watching around 2014 or so. Genuinely surprised it lasted this long, but seems like the content's about where I remembered it being quality-wise. But honestly after almost 20 years (FUCK) of ZP, I wouldn't be surprised if it started getting a lot more formulaic for both the audience and Ben. I'd imagine there's only so many dry quips you can make about the past decade of gaming without searching through old scripts to make sure it didn't come from a previous video.

It's not the bookend I'd have gone with, but it's much more preferable to what we've seen with other Escapist creators.
 
im browsing the forums out of curiosity, and I didnt expect to see this lmao


These forums are dead btw

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The other reason this is similar to Deadspin's walkout is they too were a "X and friends" type deal. Much like how Yahtzee was the reason for probably most traffic to zero punctuation, Drew Magary was the star of deadspin and him staying loyal to his coworkers on the site instead of fucking off despite literally living 500 miles away from them is a big reason why their new site got enough subscribers to keep it above water.

Man, Magary used to be so funny before he got woke and disowned all his previous stuff. The stroke was the final nail in the coffin and now literally every single "Why Your Team Sucks" feature consists of "the fans are horrible racist Republicans"
 
damn, first the censoring of videos to apace the YouTube gods, to canceling the show all together. im sure Yahtzee will figure something out but imagine wasting 15 year of your life, creating something that cant exist without you, just to be taken by a corporation. that's getting cucked to the next level.
 
Who'll be the last man in Escapist, my money is on Movieblob.
Wait there are people at Escapist who aren't Yahtzee? You sure?

it'll be because they forget he's there. chairs on tables, lights out, Bob sitting in the corner on his phone posting on Twitter.
I looked into it more deeply and I found that apparently what happened is that he was laid off five years ago and no one ever told him about it; but through some kind of glitch in the payroll department, he still gets a paycheck.

I've been waiting for this moment for about fifteen years, and I'm extremely annoyed that it happened in solidarity with Nick being fired for being a useless faggot. He's so fucking worthless, with nothing interesting to say, yet also determined to insert himself into content wherever possible. He did a shit job of running The Escapist and no one would have mourned his loss.

A much more satisfying conclusion would have been Yahtzee simply jumping ship to do his own show independently, and The Escapist subsequently imploding. But I guess we have to take what we get.

I think part of it is less that Yahtzee is going true solidarity, and more that "this is as good of a time as any, might as well leave with everyone else".
 
It is staggering to me that he basically created a product that kept another company afloat for years which effectively does not exist outside of his product and at the end of this he has nothing to show for it. His life's work, completely owned by another man after 15 years.
While I agree, it’s fucked up I don’t think he cares so much about it.
I’ve been a zero punctuation fan since quite literally episode one and I’ve had a feeling for a long time that Ben genuinely doesn’t really care for the zero punctuation anymore but does it cause it pays the bills. I think he would’ve quit the escapist if his books and games sold a little bit better and he wasn’t living in LA.
His next game has a little bit of hype around it, and I have a feeling it might actually take off so even if he didn’t quit the escapist right now, I think he will quit if his game does gangbusters.

Does yathzee have the drive anymore to be reborn from the ashes? I doubt that.

He should create a patreon and fill it up by crying on twitter about escapist. He may even get the zp rights if he gathers enough reddit rage so he won't have to bother creating something new.
Yahtzee has been making money for quite a while now through his books and video games. He’s much more passionate about making games and writing than he is about zero punctuation.
He may do some grifting, but I believe he was just gonna focus really heavy in on his next game which they’re already doing pre-sales for.
 
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I wonder what exactly he means by not having the rights to ZP because that can be pretty broad. Is it just the name or does it extend to the art style and format too? How petty is the Escapist willing to be to fuck over Yahtzee and the people riding his coat tail?
This is what I want to know as well. I cannot believe he actually sold the rights to the art style (if that's even possible) because that would be incredibly stupid unless they paid him fuck you money. Then again, I guess if at the time things were going well at The Escapist maybe he never thought he'd have to take ZP anywhere else.

I really, really want to see The Escapist attempt their own ZP though. Years ago they did a joke episode where Unskippable(???) took over until Yahtzee interrupted him, but even though it was a joke it really drove home just how bad it is listening to anyone other than Yahtzee attempt ZP.
he used copyrighted music for the intros, including A FUCKING BEATLES SONG (Octopus's Garden) in his review of BioShock.
Two Beatles songs actually, he used 'Hello, Goodbye' in Halo 3 as well. It'd be suicide in 2023 but I actually loved those old intros because it was fun seeing what he'd go with for any given game. The full ZP theme absolutely slaps though, I dunno why he never uses the guitar solo part.
The bar closed in 2019 and the books sell okay at best, mogworld is the only thing which sells a lot I think others barely sell even.
Do you have a source for the book sales? Not doubting you, just curious. Yahtzee has also done occasional freelance writing for big developers like Ubisoft so whatever happens I doubt he'll be short of work if he wants it.
 
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It is staggering to me that he basically created a product that kept another company afloat for years which effectively does not exist outside of his product and at the end of this he has nothing to show for it. His life's work, completely owned by another man after 15 years.
I mean he was paid for it pretty handsomely. Most people sell what they produce into someone else's ownership.
 
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How petty is the Escapist willing to be to fuck over Yahtzee and the people riding his coat tail?
Hopefully The Escapist's management unstitch their hands from Ben's coat tails before they start their crusade against employees of The Escapist caught riding Ben's coat tails.
 
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