Zoosadist Zoosadism Megathread - Joshua "Kero the Wolf" Hoffman & Friends.

[Jarilo182]

wait...Varka's Ex...Dolphin, Beastiality...Do you mean Athus?
While he was a co-owner of bad dragon according to his FA page, he was butt buddies with Narse not Varka.

That being said the Dolphin video with Athus is real.

Oh, I got that detail wrong, then. I first dug through this drama years ago. Thanks for the correction, although it being the (deceased) co-owner in the video doesn't make it better.

 

[Meowthkip]

Before they hit puberty, these people expressed their energy through the sorts of creative works that the rest of the autistic part of the internet are known for: fanfiction, webcomics, and OCs. Most of what they create now is just a sexualized version of that, with the caveat that a part of the broader LGBT "community" is attached that only sticks around for porn/"sex" and doesn't share that history or psychology. If the kinkshaming isn't as high as physically possible, you're inevitably going to see this downward momentum.

Are you implying fanfiction, webcomics and OCs aren't already sexualized as is?

And outside of the furry fandom, in fandoms that are high on kinkshaming (basically, anything Tumblr really likes), you have absolute fucking chaos. You have young girls and women sticking needles into cookies to give to artists who ship the wrong thing, campaigns to drive artists to suicide for drawing a character incorrectly, waves of accusations of everything from pedophilia because you drew two adult characters with an age gap, to rape apologists... all over artwork. With all the witch hunts in these fandoms that mostly consist of young women, it's like, well no shit furries would want to close their ranks and protect people in the fandom. So they go in the complete opposite direction.

What I'm saying is that both being hyper-vigilant and hyper-accepting are not good. People will take advantage of both environments, and actual pedophiles can thrive in both. Anti- groups on Tumblr are populated with adults that seem a little too invested in protecting the teenagers from the menace of aged-up character yaoi, and it's not uncommon for the people who cry the loudest about their moral crusade and the threat of pedophilia end up with having shota or lolicon collections while surrounding themselves with young, impressionable fans. Cuteosphere is a good example.

There was an attempt to purge all kink from furry fandom from within, the Burned Furs. It fizzled out. The Burned Furs either left the fandom or rolled over and gave up. I don't know what the solution is, but I just know going hard one way or the other? Bad. You're basically going with whichever is the lesser evil... or the least "degenerate." But I would advise furries, if they actively want to try and help? Don't invite pedos and zoos to conventions. Do not let registered sex offenders go to conventions. Do not take their money. Do not draw for them. Do not be quiet about this shit. Leftist furries need to take all the energy they're spending trying to purge the fandom of retarded neo-nazis and purge the people who are doing immediate harm to animals and children. There's more of them, and they make the fandom more unsafe.

And if we've learned anything about altfurs, it's that they are just as likely to be into some sick shit as any other faction of furries. They're just more racist about it, I guess.

 

[BillyGoat2]

So, any source or evidence of that? Again, I’m not doubting you, but if at least like some screen caps or something. Something to convince me this is real. If so, is that an ex he still communicated with afterwards or if he knew this shit about the ex? I want some context is all.

Well, since i got more or less confirmation on what Jarilo was talking about, time for me to give you what you asked for and to farm those negative ratings for myself. how fun.

Spoiler: NSFW/NSFL

The content in the below spoiler is Illegal to view in Oregon and the Virgin islands, and may also be Illegal in other areas as it contains a man sucking Dolphin dick.

Spoiler

Ever wanted to know what sound a dolphin makes when it ejaculates? Link with sound.

EDIT BELOW

http://fantasytoymasterlist.tumblr.com/baddragon
http://cannedcowboy.tumblr.com/post/100705389101/what-the-dick-about-bad-dragon

Good, in-depth read about that incident and several others.

Archives:
http://archive.is/al50M
http://archive.fo/0FpQb

I am an retard and didnt read Jarilo's post which i edit-quoted here. his sources link to a gif of the video that I posted.
Thats what i get for not reading.

 

[Nasty]

So many zoophiles are attracted to dogs (I may even call dogs the go-to bestiality victims)

This is what I never understood about zoophiles and the claims that they “loved” or formed real, meaningful relationships with their victims. If zoophilia is about love, and it’s an innate attraction that you can’t control, why is it that most zoophiles are only sexually attracted to animals large enough to have sex with?

I have never seen a zoophile that claimed to be in love with a hamster or a budgie.. the zoophiles that are “in love with” typically smaller animals like snakes and cats normally lean towards larger animals like burmese pythons or big cat species.

The most bizarre and mind blowing aspect of that for me was discovering just how many zoophiles weasel their way into professions that enable them access to animals of their choice.

Earlier on in the thread, it was mentioned that people like Kero were getting dogs from shelters to abuse... but I’ll take it a step further and state that it’s likely that Kero or someone he knew volunteered or worked at a shelter. The leash with the phone number and the organization name on it is a kennel leash; used for moving dogs from one kennel to another and most often in shelter or veterinary locations.
I can’t imagine a shelter would be giving these custom leashes away every single time someone adopt dogs.

Another surprising and disgusting discovery for me was how many zoophiles are in very professional areas like veterinary medicine. Perhaps just working as a kennel tech or a receptionist, but still having access to dogs unsupervised. I’ve seen zoophiles brag about dogs they’ve seen or abused in kennels, vet clinics, and groomers.... keep that in mind next time you drop your dog off at PetSmart for a trim.

Want to molest sea mammals? Get a job at a marine park (yeah, looking at you, Dolphin-Blower). Want to molest wolves or wolf dogs? Volunteer at a wolf dog sanctuary. Any dog breed of your choosing? Work in a kennel or groomer. Big cats? Bears? Hyenas? Get a job in a zoo environment with access to drugs.
(These are all real examples I’ve seen)

One instance in particular was a Russian furry who blatantly stated that he had a friend who worked in a vet clinic who would fuck dead dogs that were put to sleep! Another would hunt foxes and have sex with the corpses!
The problem with abusers in areas like Russia or Eastern Europe is that animal welfare laws are basically non-existent and these furries are almost untouchable.. part of the reason they’re so blatant, I believe.

After all, it's just a drawing! Who cares if that dog looks suspiciously similar to their pet dog? Their dog isn't neutered either? Well, they probably breed him. No need to be suspicious; we're all friends here!

The most oblivious, idiotic thing I’ve ever seen in my life when it comes to zoophiles was Peter Bower (I believe his username on FurAffinity was something along the lines of Krypto or Krypton).
Peter owned two Shepherds, a male and a female. The female repeatedly developed infections and eventually pyometra from the sexual abuse, and was eventually put to sleep because of this.
Pyometra (“pyo”) is a very serious, deadly infection involving the uterus that can result in a dog dying very quickly if not brought in for an emergency spay. When Peter tried to get some consolement from his zoophile friends on the various bestiality forums, he was reamed for putting the dog down rather than get her treated or put under for surgery.
Turns out there is a very thin, almost invisible line for zoophiles that they consider their morals.

Peter’s second dog, the male, began bleeding from his penis from the abuse and possible infections, and he put that dog to sleep as well because he felt the dog “missed” the female. He was reamed for this as well, and chased off of the forums.
The reason Peter was caught was because he had posted plenty of evidence on these forums, but he probably would have went under the radar had he not commissioned furry porn of his dead dogs and posted them on FurAffinity.

Peter had adopted a new dog during this timeframe and sexually abused her as well. Once he was arrested and charged, the animal welfare workers discovered vaginal trauma, and eventually rehomed her to a good family. A neighbour of Peter noticed the day that he brought the dog home, he had “JUST MARRIED” or similar painted on the back windshield of his car.
After all of this blew up, Peter wasn’t allowed to be around animals anymore. Like any mentally deficient zoophile moron, he decided to test his luck and post online offering dog-sitting services.
I haven’t heard any updates about him since then, but it puts it into perspective how some of these people think and act. In my opinion there are a few “types” of zoophiles:

- “Consenting Relationship” Zoophiles
The type that truly believe they’re in a loving, logical, mutually understood and accepting relationship with their animal. For some reason it’s usually a dog or a horse, and never love-at-first-sight with a rat or a mouse. Peter Bower falls under this category.

- Zoosexuals
Most furries fall under this group, but the general sick-fuck public does as well. Commonly shared interests in certain communities like BDSM, it’s usually a fetish or a form of degradation (especially to women). This is where you get drugged up horses and sex-trafficked South American women doing videos.

- Zoosadists
This doesn’t really require any further explanation.. I don’t know if this group is just a mix between zoosexuals and sociopathic behaviours or mental disorders, but it’s real and it’s large. I don’t believe there is a real, genuine sexual attraction to the animals themselves, more so the attraction towards having control and causing pain to a being that can’t fight back. As you can see, these people also tend to gravitate towards abusing children.

I know this is a little off-topic and rambling, but I figure that since this thread is so popular, it would be beneficial to understand the mentality of some of these people.

I will be checking in periodically for updates, I hope they’re able to locate the runaway zoosadist soon... I’ve not seen anything in the news yet so far.

 

[AnOminous]

There was an attempt to purge all kink from furry fandom from within, the Burned Furs. It fizzled out. The Burned Furs either left the fandom or rolled over and gave up.

Eric Blumrich did nothing wrong.

 

[PlaceboLizard]

Are you implying fanfiction, webcomics and OCs aren't already sexualized as is?

And outside of the furry fandom, in fandoms that are high on kinkshaming (basically, anything Tumblr really likes), you have absolute fucking chaos. You have young girls and women sticking needles into cookies to give to artists who ship the wrong thing, campaigns to drive artists to suicide for drawing a character incorrectly, waves of accusations of everything from pedophilia because you drew two adult characters with an age gap, to rape apologists... all over artwork. With all the witch hunts in these fandoms that mostly consist of young women, it's like, well no shit furries would want to close their ranks and protect people in the fandom. So they go in the complete opposite direction.

What I'm saying is that both being hyper-vigilant and hyper-accepting are not good. People will take advantage of both environments, and actual pedophiles can thrive in both. Anti- groups on Tumblr are populated with adults that seem a little too invested in protecting the teenagers from the menace of aged-up character yaoi, and it's not uncommon for the people who cry the loudest about their moral crusade and the threat of pedophilia end up with having shota or lolicon collections while surrounding themselves with young, impressionable fans. Cuteosphere is a good example.

There was an attempt to purge all kink from furry fandom from within, the Burned Furs. It fizzled out. The Burned Furs either left the fandom or rolled over and gave up. I don't know what the solution is, but I just know going hard one way or the other? Bad. You're basically going with whichever is the lesser evil... or the least "degenerate." But I would advise furries, if they actively want to try and help? Don't invite pedos and zoos to conventions. Do not let registered sex offenders go to conventions. Do not take their money. Do not draw for them. Do not be quiet about this shit. Leftist furries need to take all the energy they're spending trying to purge the fandom of exceptional neo-nazis and purge the people who are doing immediate harm to animals and children. There's more of them, and they make the fandom more unsafe.

And if we've learned anything about altfurs, it's that they are just as likely to be into some sick shit as any other faction of furries. They're just more racist about it, I guess.

I'm not talking about Tumblr fandoms; I'm talking about people who made things like Sonic OCs before they knew anything about sex. There's nothing genuine in Tumblr's kinkshaming, it's all knee-jerk disgust and twisted ressentiment. It makes complete sense that the people screaming bloody murder over "lolicon" would be covering themselves in that environment. Of course the Burned Furs failed when their community was birthed from 70's counterculture porn magazines and obscure parties with risqué advertising at nerd conventions. You can't really call it a reaction against these young woman fandoms now since, again, this started in the 70s and 80s.

It also isn't that furries should only disallow weird fetishes, but it should also be socially unacceptable to produce explicit pornographic material at all. There will always be sexual content produced by Internet fan communities, but it's only once you concede a right to masturbate that other practices become impossible to rationally argue against. Erase "kink" entirely. No non-reproductive sexuality, period.

Obviously, I don't think that furries can be fixed. They need to be gotten rid of and people can find a better fandom maybe.

This is what I never understood about zoophiles and the claims that they “loved” or formed real, meaningful relationships with their victims. If zoophilia is about love, and it’s an innate attraction that you can’t control, why is it that most zoophiles are only sexually attracted to animals large enough to have sex with?

I have never seen a zoophile that claimed to be in love with a hamster or a budgie.. the zoophiles that are “in love with” typically smaller animals like snakes and cats normally lean towards larger animals like burmese pythons or big cat species.

The most bizarre and mind blowing aspect of that for me was discovering just how many zoophiles weasel their way into professions that enable them access to animals of their choice.

Earlier on in the thread, it was mentioned that people like Kero were getting dogs from shelters to abuse... but I’ll take it a step further and state that it’s likely that Kero or someone he knew volunteered or worked at a shelter. The leash with the phone number and the organization name on it is a kennel leash; used for moving dogs from one kennel to another and most often in shelter or veterinary locations.
I can’t imagine a shelter would be giving these custom leashes away every single time someone adopt dogs.

Another surprising and disgusting discovery for me was how many zoophiles are in very professional areas like veterinary medicine. Perhaps just working as a kennel tech or a receptionist, but still having access to dogs unsupervised. I’ve seen zoophiles brag about dogs they’ve seen or abused in kennels, vet clinics, and groomers.... keep that in mind next time you drop your dog off at PetSmart for a trim.

Want to molest sea mammals? Get a job at a marine park (yeah, looking at you, Dolphin-Blower). Want to molest wolves or wolf dogs? Volunteer at a wolf dog sanctuary. Any dog breed of your choosing? Work in a kennel or groomer. Big cats? Bears? Hyenas? Get a job in a zoo environment with access to drugs.
(These are all real examples I’ve seen)

One instance in particular was a Russian furry who blatantly stated that he had a friend who worked in a vet clinic who would fuck dead dogs that were put to sleep! Another would hunt foxes and have sex with the corpses!
The problem with abusers in areas like Russia or Eastern Europe is that animal welfare laws are basically non-existent and these furries are almost untouchable.. part of the reason they’re so blatant, I believe.



The most oblivious, idiotic thing I’ve ever seen in my life when it comes to zoophiles was Peter Bower (I believe his username on FurAffinity was something along the lines of Krypto or Krypton).
Peter owned two Shepherds, a male and a female. The female repeatedly developed infections and eventually pyometra from the sexual abuse, and was eventually put to sleep because of this.
Pyometra (“pyo”) is a very serious, deadly infection involving the uterus that can result in a dog dying very quickly if not brought in for an emergency spay. When Peter tried to get some consolement from his zoophile friends on the various bestiality forums, he was reamed for putting the dog down rather than get her treated or put under for surgery.
Turns out there is a very thin, almost invisible line for zoophiles that they consider their morals.

Peter’s second dog, the male, began bleeding from his penis from the abuse and possible infections, and he put that dog to sleep as well because he felt the dog “missed” the female. He was reamed for this as well, and chased off of the forums.
The reason Peter was caught was because he had posted plenty of evidence on these forums, but he probably would have went under the radar had he not commissioned furry porn of his dead dogs and posted them on FurAffinity.

Peter had adopted a new dog during this timeframe and sexually abused her as well. Once he was arrested and charged, the animal welfare workers discovered vaginal trauma, and eventually rehomed her to a good family. A neighbour of Peter noticed the day that he brought the dog home, he had “JUST MARRIED” or similar painted on the back windshield of his car.
After all of this blew up, Peter wasn’t allowed to be around animals anymore. Like any mentally deficient zoophile moron, he decided to test his luck and post online offering dog-sitting services.
I haven’t heard any updates about him since then, but it puts it into perspective how some of these people think and act. In my opinion there are a few “types” of zoophiles:

- “Consenting Relationship” Zoophiles
The type that truly believe they’re in a loving, logical, mutually understood and accepting relationship with their animal. For some reason it’s usually a dog or a horse, and never love-at-first-sight with a rat or a mouse. Peter Bower falls under this category.

- Zoosexuals
Most furries fall under this group, but the general sick-fuck public does as well. Commonly shared interests in certain communities like BDSM, it’s usually a fetish or a form of degradation (especially to women). This is where you get drugged up horses and sex-trafficked South American women doing videos.

- Zoosadists
This doesn’t really require any further explanation.. I don’t know if this group is just a mix between zoosexuals and sociopathic behaviours or mental disorders, but it’s real and it’s large. I don’t believe there is a real, genuine sexual attraction to the animals themselves, more so the attraction towards having control and causing pain to a being that can’t fight back. As you can see, these people also tend to gravitate towards abusing children.

I know this is a little off-topic and rambling, but I figure that since this thread is so popular, it would be beneficial to understand the mentality of some of these people.

I will be checking in periodically for updates, I hope they’re able to locate the runaway zoosadist soon... I’ve not seen anything in the news yet so far.

If I were an employer who worked with animals, is there any way I could try to screen these people? Autism face, hair color, guaged ears? What do they tend to look like?

 

[Unironically z fag]

This is what I never understood about zoophiles and the claims that they “loved” or formed real, meaningful relationships with their victims. If zoophilia is about love, and it’s an innate attraction that you can’t control, why is it that most zoophiles are only sexually attracted to animals large enough to have sex with?

Ive met zoos attracted to owls, housecats, lizards and other things as well, and desipte owning said animals, were not active as far as they told me.

Earlier on in the thread, it was mentioned that people like Kero were getting dogs from shelters to abuse... but I’ll take it a step further and state that it’s likely that Kero or someone he knew volunteered or worked at a shelter. The leash with the phone number and the organization name on it is a kennel leash; used for moving dogs from one kennel to another and most often in shelter or veterinary locations.

A reason they are indeed given away is because they make for good cheap advertising, and are much cheaper than giving people a clasped lead. Our shelter gives out a cheap collar and one of these upon adoption if people didnt habe their own gear that day. They're stupid cheap to have the local shelters info printed on them and are crap for moving or walking dogs very far so typically regular leads are used in my experience. But yeah I digress, given Kero's public image of supporting animal welfare he probably did volunteer every now and then.

In my opinion there are a few “types” of zoophiles:

- “Consenting Relationship” Zoophiles
The type that truly believe they’re in a loving, logical, mutually understood and accepting relationship with their animal. For some reason it’s usually a dog or a horse, and never love-at-first-sight with a rat or a mouse. Peter Bower falls under this category.

I'm no psychologist, but I'd speculate that it is largely to do with the fact of the long-standing relationship humans as a species have with these animals, for both companionship and utility. Humans and these animals alike have grown as a species to more naturally understand and be able to interpret each other on a basic level. It has been discovered(I don't remember the details really) that indigenous people, be it native Americans or some other earlier civilizations, have depicted themselves through artwork having carnal relations to animals familiar with them like buffalos. Not quite the same as my previous statement but I think it goes kinda together with just the natural exposure to such things. Not to mention other stuff like Egyptians depicting anthropomorphic Gods and stuff.

- Zoosexuals
Most furries fall under this group, but the general sick-fuck public does as well. Commonly shared interests in certain communities like BDSM, it’s usually a fetish or a form of degradation (especially to women). This is where you get drugged up horses and sex-trafficked South American women doing videos.

To throw even more confusion into the mix, there was previously a movement by zoophiles to rename their attraction to zoosexuality in order to lose the stigma that -philia carries - fun fact. These folk are also referred to as bestialists.

What a world we live in.

 

[BipolarPon]

There was an attempt to purge all kink from furry fandom from within, the Burned Furs. It fizzled out. The Burned Furs either left the fandom or rolled over and gave up.

I remember the Burned Furs from Down the Rabbit Hole, It started with good intentions, but got too extreme and even more prudish and more homophobic than Evangelical Christians, no wonder the fandom would reject it.

 

[Tigerwatch]

This is what I never understood about zoophiles and the claims that they “loved” or formed real, meaningful relationships with their victims. If zoophilia is about love, and it’s an innate attraction that you can’t control, why is it that most zoophiles are only sexually attracted to animals large enough to have sex with?

The most bizarre and mind blowing aspect of that for me was discovering just how many zoophiles weasel their way into professions that enable them access to animals of their choice.

Another surprising and disgusting discovery for me was how many zoophiles are in very professional areas like veterinary medicine. Perhaps just working as a kennel tech or a receptionist, but still having access to dogs unsupervised. I’ve seen zoophiles brag about dogs they’ve seen or abused in kennels, vet clinics, and groomers.... keep that in mind next time you drop your dog off at PetSmart for a trim.

Turns out there is a very thin, almost invisible line for zoophiles that they consider their morals.

I have to admit I do genuinely think most of them love and care about animals, but just do ridiculous mental gymnastics to justify it to themselves. They love their pets like a wifebeater loves his girlfriend.

Along with the fact this undoubtedly stems from sexual abuse in childhood, I'll bet my life savings that the majority of these cases involved incest as well. I'd describe the familial feeling most people ascribe to their pets as similar to a younger sibling or baby, so when they grow up being taught that sort of love involves all different manners of sex and abuse, it's not a stretch to apply it to their dog. Glowfox gloated about the extensive abuse he experienced at the hands of his stepfather/'s friends and how they were his "bros" and cared about him, and SnakeThing's attraction to his nephew. They legitimately believe these things are acceptable, being ignorant of the very blatant effects it's had on them.

That's why they have such spotty morals, having a disconnect between their genuine love of animals and the extensive harm having sex with them causes. The fact she was very literally raped to the brink of death is nothing but a technicality, but putting her down when she (presumably) had a genuine chance of recovering is neglect. We all know full well that even if he tried to help her, he'd learn nothing and go right back to fucking her to death.

It reminds of a user on a gay bestiality website who posted videos of his two starving dogs he left tied out in his trailer park, starving them and predominantly making them eat his shit directly from the source, in addition to the occasional maggot-infested raw meat (I think the worst part is the disgustingly cutesy baby voice he used). There were a few people talking about how hot it was scattered within the majority of other comments calling him a disgusting person and wishing death upon him. I guess you can still find a way to take the moral high ground when you're posting on a basically unmoderated website dedicated to raping dogs.

 

[s0mbra]

i think i might be an outlier with this opinion (at least on KF), but i don't think open sexuality is the problem here. honestly, it's probably one of the only factors in the furry community that keeps a lot of them from hurting themselves or others; nothing wrong with sex (eg: not raping animals or children), even if it's fucking bizarro-sex.

i do agree it shouldn't be the centerpiece of their existence, but an outlet is an outlet. and in a community of misfits, you want that energy going somewhere. if the ultimate result is a lotta used Kleenex, so be it.

furries definitely have to stop it with the "total-acceptance" shit, however; there has to be a reasonable level of kinkshaming present (like don't display your fetish in public, don't rape animals/children, etc), otherwise you get a situation like the zoosadism fiasco. better believe this behavior is more wide-spread than just the few people implicated in those leaks, but sex-positivity on its own did not cause this.

Rumors circulate despite however much evidence there may or may not be. The stories are currently entirely anecdotal, and you can’t take that at face value. I think that’s what this person meant when they said that there’s never proof. Someone’s word isn’t hard evidence. I’m not saying this is false, as it could be true, but there’s nothing to go off of other than rumors from a fandom that creates more drama than a celebrity gossip magazine can fit into one issue.

That's exactly it. It wouldn't surprise me though.

Trust but verify, n all.

Varka's ex and the dolphin was released on video all over the Internet, that part can't be refuted. Varka does 100% openly associate with zoos, although I'm more concerned with EE's open animal abuse on their site.

Oh fuck yeah the dolphin thing. I remember that. Proof enough for me. No idea how furfags don't raise a bigger stink about that- oh WAIT! hurk

Also Exotic Erotic throw a shit fit if you bring it up. And apparently the original owners were zoos, but that's still he said she said territory.

Edited for powerleveling and off topic.

 

[Smutley]

Want to molest sea mammals? Get a job at a marine park (yeah, looking at you, Dolphin-Blower). Want to molest wolves or wolf dogs? Volunteer at a wolf dog sanctuary. Any dog breed of your choosing? Work in a kennel or groomer. Big cats? Bears? Hyenas? Get a job in a zoo environment with access to drugs.
(These are all real examples I’ve seen)

You've offered like, 1000 words with 0 evidence. This sure is salacious but you're either complicit in these actions since you have such detailed insider knowledge or you're making them all up because the majority of this thread is filled with hand wringing faggots who will believe anything that has to do with something that's made them stim in anger this past week.

Until you provide actual proof to any of your claims, you're threadbanned.

 

[mildly_miffed_69]

Oh fuck yeah the dolphin thing. I remember that. Proof enough for me. No idea how furfags don't raise a bigger stink about that- oh WAIT! hurk

for what it's worth... i had no idea about the dolphin thing until today...



(and if i had to guess, most probably don't know about it either. it's very easy to bury animal rape under a dildo empire)

 

[Tigerwatch]

http://fantasytoymasterlist.tumblr.com/baddragon
http://cannedcowboy.tumblr.com/post/100705389101/what-the-dick-about-bad-dragon

Good, in-depth read about that incident and several others.

Archives:
http://archive.is/al50M
http://archive.fo/0FpQb

fftopic: Is that the same video Todokaras jerked off to? Hate to think there's several different SeaWorld trainers molesting their animals.

 

[Contingency_1]

Hey Nasty, I have news for you. If you round up the bottom feeders, you can get them to squeal about the higher ups. They're literally the only resource we have besides infiltration. Yeah, the higher ups may close up shop and relocate, but if you want animals spared from the chains, you have to pressure the weakest links.

So please, give us names and evidence, forward things to the cops. Or give us a lead that won't incriminate you. Don't just serve up anecdotes.

 

[Crocophile]

Well, on a long shot I decided to paw through the old 2010 'YiffyLeaks' from Fur Affinity to see if any private correspondence between the Zoo Crew came up on the radar. All the accounts made after 2010 aren't going to have any logs, which means no Kero or Nelizar show up on them. In fact most of them seem to be post 2010 and even among the older ones that have pre-2010 accounts not all of them have their private messages on the site (or just have nothing of substantial like CHADBLA's). The only one I got an interesting hit on was Tuskyn/WolfyDNA who was mentioned earlier in this thread. And again here.

I initially posted my findings in another thread where he was featured prominently, but was told it might be better off in the main thread.

Spoiler: Yiffy Leaks

Tuskyn Yiffyleaks
To: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/index.php?seek=Tuskyn&action=to (archive http://archive.is/TVsxc)
From: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/index.php?seek=tuskyn&action=from (archive http://archive.is/vWfhf)
Spoiler, it's mostly nothing. There are a few messages to someone named Betawolf lamenting the (at the time) recent takedown of cub artwork and mentioning transferring his 'art' over to PedoInkbunny.

Spoiler: Also this horrifying gem

ID: 89000
Original ID: 5314903
From: Tuskyn
To: Betawolf
Title: heyas
Content:
Woof, As I was saying I LOVE your twisted ideas. Id love to chat
sometime about art ideas and such. I'm very -open minded. >=)
The last commish you had done was very nice! I wish it showed more what
was going on inside the stroller

I decided to follow up on Betawolf just to see how far this rabbit hole goes. It seems he's a furry pedo who ragequit the fandom back around 2011, according to the archive of his Inkbunny journal, because no one wanted to put up with his literal babyfucking fetish. All of his accounts are empty or deleted and have been for a while. I don't think the relation with Tuskyn was very strong, but it does show Tuskyn communicated with someone who wrote actual child porn and messaged him to compliment him on it, which is pretty gross. Here's Betawolf's side of the leaks, which also includes some back-and-forth with fellow lolcow Dragoneer:

Betawolf Yiffleaks
To: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/to/Betawolf/ (archive http://archive.is/hKqwq)
From: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/index.php?seek=Betawolf&action=from (archive http://archive.is/5mYbJ)

Spoiler: Likes 'Non-Anthro' on Cub

ID: 86371
Original ID: 11541079
From: Betawolf
To: Jjjon_Zimmermann
Title: RE: Finally half access to a computer
Content:
The story ideas you sent me sound cool, but not really my tastes. I was
more wondering if you were interested in doing another cub story with
the cub being violated by non-anthro furs, like the Rough Day At The Zoo
story you did. That was very kinky, interesting, and well done. I have
some ideas I could toss your way if you'd like, or if you have an
unfinished story idea along those ideas, or REALLY kinky cub material, I
could help you toss some ideas back and forth if ya like=)

I also included the rest of the accounts for posterity, despite the fact they are all empty/defunct.

Spoiler: Info

DOB: Feb 10, 1986
Location: Washington
Wikifur: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Betawolf
Fur Affinity: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/betawolf (Disabled)(older archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150326183906/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/betawolf)
Inkbunny: https://inkbunny.net/Betawolf (Deleted) (older archive http://archive.is/6LaH)
Deviant Art: https://www.deviantart.com/sinistertaz (Empty) (archive http://archive.is/29amI)

Again, there's no trail of this guy since 2011 that I could find, so I don't think he's at all relevant to the current drama, but from his notes he comes across as so creepy that anyone who's a 'fan' of his should certainly be suspected of kiddie-fiddling.

TL;DR Tuskyn was a 'fan' of an infamous kiddie diddling writer and sent several messages to him praising his work. Said writer appears to have rage-quit the fandom and deleted all their stuff years ago, but apparently had a thing for 'non-anthro' and cub porn. It's not a lot but it does establish a familiar link to other known zoopedos. Basically the entire fandom is sick fucks, but you don't need me to tell you that.

 

[City On The Hill]

Well, on a long shot I decided to paw through the old 2010 'YiffyLeaks' from Fur Affinity to see if any private correspondence between the Zoo Crew came up on the radar. All the accounts made after 2010 aren't going to have any logs, which means no Kero or Nelizar show up on them. In fact most of them seem to be post 2010 and even among the older ones that have pre-2010 accounts not all of them have their private messages on the site (or just have nothing of substantial like CHADBLA's). The only one I got an interesting hit on was Tuskyn/WolfyDNA who was mentioned earlier in this thread. And again here.

I initially posted my findings in another thread where he was featured prominently, but was told it might be better off in the main thread.

Spoiler: Yiffy Leaks

Tuskyn Yiffyleaks
To: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/index.php?seek=Tuskyn&action=to (archive http://archive.is/TVsxc)
From: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/index.php?seek=tuskyn&action=from (archive http://archive.is/vWfhf)
Spoiler, it's mostly nothing. There are a few messages to someone named Betawolf lamenting the (at the time) recent takedown of cub artwork and mentioning transferring his 'art' over to PedoInkbunny.

Spoiler: Also this horrifying gem

ID: 89000
Original ID: 5314903
From: Tuskyn
To: Betawolf
Title: heyas
Content:
Woof, As I was saying I LOVE your twisted ideas. Id love to chat
sometime about art ideas and such. I'm very -open minded. >=)
The last commish you had done was very nice! I wish it showed more what
was going on inside the stroller

I decided to follow up on Betawolf just to see how far this rabbit hole goes. It seems he's a furry pedo who ragequit the fandom back around 2011, according to the archive of his Inkbunny journal, because no one wanted to put up with his literal babyfucking fetish. All of his accounts are empty or deleted and have been for a while. I don't think the relation with Tuskyn was very strong, but it does show Tuskyn communicated with someone who wrote actual child porn and messaged him to compliment him on it, which is pretty gross. Here's Betawolf's side of the leaks, which also includes some back-and-forth with fellow lolcow Dragoneer:

Betawolf Yiffleaks
To: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/to/Betawolf/ (archive http://archive.is/hKqwq)
From: http://faleaks.malicelabs.com/index.php?seek=Betawolf&action=from (archive http://archive.is/5mYbJ)

Spoiler: Likes 'Non-Anthro' on Cub

ID: 86371
Original ID: 11541079
From: Betawolf
To: Jjjon_Zimmermann
Title: RE: Finally half access to a computer
Content:
The story ideas you sent me sound cool, but not really my tastes. I was
more wondering if you were interested in doing another cub story with
the cub being violated by non-anthro furs, like the Rough Day At The Zoo
story you did. That was very kinky, interesting, and well done. I have
some ideas I could toss your way if you'd like, or if you have an
unfinished story idea along those ideas, or REALLY kinky cub material, I
could help you toss some ideas back and forth if ya like=)

I also included the rest of the accounts for posterity, despite the fact they are all empty/defunct.

Spoiler: Info

DOB: Feb 10, 1986
Location: Washington
Wikifur: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Betawolf
Fur Affinity: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/betawolf (Disabled)(older archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150326183906/http://www.furaffinity.net/user/betawolf)
Inkbunny: https://inkbunny.net/Betawolf (Deleted) (older archive http://archive.is/6LaH)
Deviant Art: https://www.deviantart.com/sinistertaz (Empty) (archive http://archive.is/29amI)

Again, there's no trail of this guy since 2011 that I could find, so I don't think he's at all relevant to the current drama, but from his notes he comes across as so creepy that anyone who's a 'fan' of his should certainly be suspected of kiddie-fiddling.

TL;DR Tuskyn was a 'fan' of an infamous kiddie diddling writer and sent several messages to him praising his work. Said writer appears to have rage-quit the fandom and deleted all their stuff years ago, but apparently had a thing for 'non-anthro' and cub porn. It's not a lot but it does establish a familiar link to other known zoopedos. Basically the entire fandom is sick fucks, but you don't need me to tell you that.

I would also like to add something in regards to Tuskyn. Tuskyn was a friend of Illone Sheppypaws (Kero's dead zoosadist BF), and had contact with Kero and SnakeThing/Nelizar, as well as other zoosadists via a group chat.

In messages4 of Kero's logs, after Illone's death, SnakeThing suggests opening up a group chat with his close friends, or 'just you (Kero), me (SnakeThing), Tuskyn, Dalmation (Not sure if it's Spark Dalmation), and Otter (Referring to a user named 'CrazyOtter', a zoosadist).

 

[Crocophile]

I would also like to add something in regards to Tuskyn. Tuskyn was a friend of Illone Sheppypaws (Kero's dead zoosadist BF), and had contact with Kero and SnakeThing/Nelizar, as well as other zoosadists via a group chat.

In messages4 of Kero's logs, after Illone's death, SnakeThing suggests opening up a group chat with his close friends, or 'just you (Kero), me (SnakeThing), Tuskyn, Dalmation (Not sure if it's Spark Dalmation), and Otter (Referring to a user named 'CrazyOtter', a zoosadist).

Right. Nelizar explicitly call him a 'zoosuiter' and claims Tuskyn supports RLC/Real Life Cub (aka Pedoporn). At the very least from these PMs with Betawolf I can confirm that Tuskyn affiliated with pedophilic content creators (one who wrote pedozoo even), years before the telegram group was formed. I also found this archive of Tuskyn's Inkbunny which shows he's favorited a lot of cub porn as well.

It doesn't prove he diddles real life kiddies like Nelizar claims, but it still isn't a good look. Especially not when you're also being considered a part of a confirmed child molester's inner circle.

 

[Meowthkip]

@Crocophile Good thinking to check YiffyLeaks.

It also isn't that furries should only disallow weird fetishes, but it should also be socially unacceptable to produce explicit pornographic material at all. There will always be sexual content produced by Internet fan communities, but it's only once you concede a right to masturbate that other practices become impossible to rationally argue against. Erase "kink" entirely. No non-reproductive sexuality, period.

LOL good luck with that.

 

[A.Shitposter]

I'm not talking about Tumblr fandoms; I'm talking about people who made things like Sonic OCs before they knew anything about sex. There's nothing genuine in Tumblr's kinkshaming, it's all knee-jerk disgust and twisted ressentiment. It makes complete sense that the people screaming bloody murder over "lolicon" would be covering themselves in that environment. Of course the Burned Furs failed when their community was birthed from 70's counterculture porn magazines and obscure parties with risqué advertising at nerd conventions. You can't really call it a reaction against these young woman fandoms now since, again, this started in the 70s and 80s.

It also isn't that furries should only disallow weird fetishes, but it should also be socially unacceptable to produce explicit pornographic material at all. There will always be sexual content produced by Internet fan communities, but it's only once you concede a right to masturbate that other practices become impossible to rationally argue against. Erase "kink" entirely. No non-reproductive sexuality, period.

Obviously, I don't think that furries can be fixed. They need to be gotten rid of and people can find a better fandom maybe.



If I were an employer who worked with animals, is there any way I could try to screen these people? Autism face, hair color, guaged ears? What do they tend to look like?

This all makes way more sense knowing that you're an ex furry who seemed to go off the deep end in the other direction.

How the fuck do you intend to enforce this weird anti-furry totalitarian shit? Screening people? What?

 

[somethingfowl]

The most oblivious, idiotic thing I’ve ever seen in my life when it comes to zoophiles was Peter Bower (I believe his username on FurAffinity was something along the lines of Krypto or Krypton).

You are talking about Krypto1701, and oh yes, I remember him very well. He posted his full nane, address, and place of work (an animal shelter) as well as photos on Beastforum. Made it real easy to alert the shelter with a simple email.