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Yep found the post with the study info:11:1? Jesus. That's nuts.
Checks out. I remember my biggest redpill about gays and pedophilia was the milo thing. This just reinforces it.Yep found the post with the study info:
It's sad to be certain but should not be surprising.11:1? Jesus. That's nuts.
I think it's more than just that. In my past, even when I was bluepilled about it, I used to get into fights with people when I said gay people could be as bad as other people. It's gone beyond being above reproach. It seems that since at least the mid 2000's being gay was seen as morally good in and of itself, beyond other virtues, even.It's sad to be certain but should not be surprising.
People had a better understanding of this reality before the Pride PR machine rebranded all things gay as all things above reproach over the last 20 years or so.
To say nothing of the weaponization of gay rights to push neo-Marxist political agendas through the Pride community. Gays are used as martyrs and useful idiots by Marxists/anarcho-commies in pretty much the same manor BLM uses black people to push it's anti-capitalist agenda as evidenced by the demonization of blacks and gays who don't fall in line politically.Now that we can seriously talk without the derailing. The Pride PR machine as you call it has changed many things for the worse.
Growing up you knew someone was gay, but not because of outlandish behavior. Drag queens also were known for what they are performance artists usually of a very adult audience. And transexuals existed but truthfully they were more accepted since they werent doing what is going on now. I spoke to one of the people I knew growing up who was trans and they hate this shit going on they feel it belittles their experience and they feel more ashamed now to be trans then they did in the 80/90s.
Right because that was the only one of two examples I used. I know what you are trying to say, but,Okay the other disorder Fraser Syndrome
I already gave the quote. Look hereIf these genes you speak of are not the building blocks of chromosomes where can they be found and what is their mechanism for influencing sex determination?
Other genetic factors, which contribute to male sex differentiation
Apart from the SRY gene, there is a number of other genes that contribute dramatically to the sex determination, as it has been proven from sex reversal disorders. The Wilm's tumor-associated gene (WT1), which is located in the short arm of the chromosome 11, is comprised of 10 exons and can give rise to 24 different protein isoforms. The +KTS and –KTS isoforms arise from an alternative splicing event that incorporates or omits, respectively, three aminoacids.
A research team27 conducted an isoform-specific knockout. Both male and female mice lacking the WT1 (-KTS) isoform had reduced gonadal size, but cells in the gonads of male mice showed male-specific marker gene expression, although reduced. Mice lacking WT1 (+KTS) had severe kidney defects and male mice were completely XY sex-reversed.
Steroidogenic factor 1 (SF1) is a member of the subfamily of nuclear receptors, the orphan receptors, for which no activating ligand has been found. SF1 gene expression is specifically associated with the gonad and the adrenal as they arise and is a good marker for these cells30. The gene that encodes for SF1 is located in the long arm of the chromosome 9. Mutation in this gene provoke male to female sex reversal31.
The gene named SOX9 encodes a transcription factor that contains a SRY-related HMG box32. It is located in the long arm of the chromosome 17. Expression studies in mice revealed that SOX9 is present in both sexes genital ridges, but after the initial development, is upregulated in males and switched off in females33. SOX9 is expressed in Sertoli cells throughout life, but not in the ovary. This characteristic is consistent with the upregulation of SOX9 being a direct effect of SRY action. It also suggests that is involved in determination of Sertoli cell fate. Significantly, heterozygotes for mutations in SOX9 show male to female sex reversion34,35.
According to the latter study, the protein has to reach a critical threshold to be effective, thus an additional copy of SOX9 can stimulate female to male sex reversal. SRY and SOX9 are functionally related, perhaps ensuring the male development. SOX9 is also necessary for the activation of gene which encodes for the anti- Mullerian hormone (AMH).
Another sex reversal event is observed when the Dosage Sensitive Sex Reversing Adrenal Hypoplasia Congenita critical region on the X (DAX1) gene is partially duplicated in males. The DAX1 is located on the short arm of the X chromosome36. The single X chromosome in the male is active, but a translocated region from the female X (or a partial duplication of the male X) results in two active alleles of the DAX1 gene when only one occurs normally. This gene dosage feminising effect is sufficient to counteract the effect of SRY37.
The action of DAX1 gene has resulted to its characterization as an anti-testes gene. Another anti-testes gene is the WNT4. In humans, its duplication causes male to female sex-reversal38. This effect indicates that both DAX1 and WNT4 can override the effect of SRY.
Finally, there is one more gene that interferes with sex determination, the Doublesex and Mab-3 Related Transcription factor1 (DMTR1). DMTR1 lies on the short arm of the chromosome 9. Mutation or partial deletion of this gene provokes male to female sex reversal 39,40. Two functioning copies of DMRT1 are therefore required to support testis development in mammals41.
Syo has it backwards.11:1? Jesus. That's nuts.
As for Syo's second source, the article uses "heterosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the opposite sex, "bisexual" to mean someone who abuses both male and female children, and "homosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the same sex as themselves; not as a way of indicating their attraction to adults. This is also true of his first source as well.Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1
One of the first distinctions made when classifying pedophiles is to determine whether they are “exclusively” attracted to children (exclusive pedophile) or attracted to adults as well as children (nonexclusive pedophile). In a study by Abel and Harlow, of 2429 adult male pedophiles, only 7% identified themselves as exclusively sexually attracted to children, which confirms the general view that most pedophiles are part of the nonexclusive group.
Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual pedophilia), female children (heterosexual pedophilia), or children from both sexes (bisexual pedophilia).3,6,10,29
And you just focus on that unlike say all the other intersex conditions that don't fit this criteria?Because of the negative side effects that come along with the genetic malfunction. It's not a miracle when someone is born who fits into your weird degenerate fantasies. It's a tragedy as evidenced by Fraser Syndrome life expectancy you sick twisted nonce sack of animal refuse.
Biology has nothing to do with the brain? Color me shocked:Brain sex is still off topic. We were talking about biological sex not "brain sex" which is nebulous at best.
The initial factor in the development of transsexualism involves genetics. Coolidge, Theda and Young, in 2002, reported, finding a strong heritable component to the condition they called Gender Identity Disorder (GID) symptomatology (Coolidge, Theda, & Young, 2002). With this they implied that gender identity was much less a matter of choice and much more a natural matter of biology. In 2013 a large study among trans persons found one third of monozygotic (identical) male twins, and approximately one quarter of female monozygotic twins, were concordant in transitioning; essentially no dizygotic (familial) twins were concordant in transitioning (Diamond, 2013). And in 2014 it was reported that concordance in transition had occurred even among a trans twin pair that were reared and lived apart (Segal & Diamond, 2014). In sum these findings support a basic biological underpinning of the trans condition.
Another feature of transsexual development needs understanding. This too points to its natural biological nature. It is known that the genitals and brain develop at different times. The genitals develop early prenatally during the first 6 – 12th week and they may develop in masculine or feminine form. If the genitals develop under the influence of the androgen testosterone they are masculinized. If they are not, female genitals develop. In comparison, the brain, it is believed, develops during the latter period of pregnancy and also is subject to the influence of androgen. If there is significant androgen present at that time there will be brain masculinization, if not, there will be brain feminization. It thus is clear that the brain and genitals can develop independently and under different forces (Bao & Swaab, 2011; Savik, Garcia-Falguera, & Swaab, 2010). As Reiner has said “The etiology of gender identity may be neither obvious nor easily conceptualized. Yet what is obvious is that the presence of androgen is critical. It is the determining factor in the development of ... behavioral dimorphism in humans—genital structure, ... male-typical behaviors, masculinization of the brain …“ (Reiner, 2002).
Now consider neuroanatomical features found in the brains of transsexual peoples. In 1995 Zhou et al. were the first to report finding a female brain structure in genetically male trans persons. They hypothesized these findings supported the theory that gender identity develops as a result of a normal interaction between the developing brain and sex hormones (Zhou, M. A. Hofman, Gooren, & Swaab, 1995). The area implicated was the bed nucleus of the stria terminalis (BSTc) of the hypothalamus that is sexually dimorphic in size and number of cells contained. Kruijver et al. subsequently expanded upon this finding. They found the number of neurons in the BSTc of trans women was similar to that of the females among cisgender women. In contrast, the neuron number of a FtM transsexual was found to be in the male range (Kruijver et al., 2000). This work supports the paradigm that, for transsexual persons, sexual differentiation of the brain and genitals may go in opposite directions and points to a neurobiological basis of transsexualism and the accompanying gender dysphoria.
Subsequent studies continued to substantiate these findings. Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab in 2008, using three different staining techniques, reported finding that INAH3 volume and number of neurons in the brains of those who went male-to-female (trans women) is similar to that of control females (Garcia-Falguera & Swaab, 2008). They proposed that the sex reversal of the INAH3 in trans persons is at least partly a marker of an early atypical sexual differentiation of the brain and that the changes in INAH3 and the BSTc may belong to a complex network that may structurally and functionally be related to gender identity.
Others continued this line of research. Bao & Swaab reviewed all sorts of potential influence on the sexual behavior of the developing child and found little evidence the exhibited sex differences were due to rearing (Bao & Swaab, 2011). Others did find, however, in regard to play behaviors and personality characteristics a strong influence of prenatal androgen (Mathews, Fane, Conway, Brook, & Hines, 2009; Nordenstrom, Servin, Bohlin, Larsson, & Wedell, 2002).
Work from other groups also found significant sex differences relative to trans persons that followed the proposal that a testosterone surge masculinizes the fetal brain and the absence of such a surge results in a feminine one. Gizewski et al., using fMRI, tested the cerebral activation patterns of trans women during their viewing of erotic film clips. The responses of these trans persons were more like cisfemale than cismale controls (Gizewski et al., 2009). Simon et al., using a neural-imaging technique called voxel based morphometry (VBM) measured brain components from both trans women and trans men. This VBM is a procedure using statistical methods of analysis that allows one area to be compared with another. They found many brain areas in which the gray matter structure differed from that of controls, e.g. the cerebellum, the left angular gyrus and left inferior parietal lobe. They concluded that structural brain differences exist between the brains of trans persons and control subjects dependent upon the gender expressed by the trans persons (Simon, Kozak, & Simon, 2013). The comparison agreed more with the gender expressed contemporarily than the genitals present at birth.
Transsexual people were found to have sex differences in the corpus callosum, the largest white tract in the brain. While measures of this structure have, over the years been controversial, these current authors, using Fourier descriptors of callosal contours reported finding the value of their measures for those who had gender dysphoria more strongly reflected their mental sex of gender, than their genital sex. Yokota, Kawamura, and Kameya claim the differences large enough to use as objective measures for clinical diagnosis (Yokota, Kawamura, & Kameya, 2005).
Giuseppina Rametti et al., using diffusion tensor imaging, also studied the white matter structure in the brains of trans persons. They concluded that the white matter microstructure pattern in untreated trans men is closer to the pattern of subjects who share their gender identity (males) than those who share their biological sex (females) (Rametti, Carrillo, Gómez-Gil, & Junque C, 2011).
Thickness in the cortex of the brain of trans persons has also been found significantly different. Zubiarre-Elorza et al. showed that trans men showed a subcortical brain masculinization, while the brains of trans women showed feminization particularly in regions of the right hemisphere (Zubiarre-Elorza et al., 2013). Luders et al. in 2012 also found regions of cortical thickness that differed in the brains of transsexual persons. Their results revealed thicker cortices in the brains of trans women, both within regions of the left hemisphere (i.e., frontal and orbito-frontal cortex, central sulcus, perisylvian regions, paracentral gyrus) and right hemisphere (i.e., pre-/post-central gyrus, parietal cortex, temporal cortex, precuneus, fusiform, lingual, and orbito-frontal gyrus). These findings provide further evidence that brain anatomy is associated with gender identity, where measures in trans women appear to be shifted away from gender-congruent men (Luders et al., 2012).
Right, did you know these "malformations" are harmless for the most part?Only you would act like "genital malformations" are anything other than a tragic so that you can maintain some kind of false ground on which to moralize against those who think you are a sick trans-fetishist with pedo inclinations
Intersex adults certainly think so. Hence why they want to stop these medically unnecessary surgeries.One might think that this goes without saying. However, whilst it has often been claimed that genital ‘normalising’ surgeriesFootnote3 that are not a strict medical necessity are beneficial, there is a paucity of evidence to justify such claims. These surgeries first began to be done at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore in the 1950s, and spread around the world, soon becoming the global standard of care. Primarily grounded in the work of the psychologist, John Money, they were justified on two main assumptions, the first being that gender identity is more a matter of nurture than nature. So long as the child had surgery to ‘normalise’ the appearance of the genitals, the child would grow up to identify with the gender it was raised as [7, 12]. The second was the belief that it was in the best interests of the intersex child to be raised as ‘normally’ as possible. Surgery would help the child to appear more ‘normal’ and ‘fit in’ better socially [13, 14]. We now know that both of these assumptions turned out to be false.
The first claim—that it was possible to socialise a child into a chosen gender identity—was shown to be false very soon. Money frequently defended his claim by making reference to a case that was to become famous. He had been approached for advice on how to manage a situation in which a botched circumcision on an 8 month old identical twin boy had caused the child to lose his penis. Money advised the parents to obtain surgery to remove the boy’s testicles and reconstruct the external genitalia to resemble the typical genitalia of a girl. Furthermore, he recommended that the child be raised as girl, and that his medical history should be hidden from him. Convinced that gender identity could be altered by such socialisation, Money believed that it would be better for the child to undergo the surgery and be raised as a girl. He believed this would be better than the alternative ‘to raise him as a boy with an inadequate penis’ which would purportedly cause ‘the child [to] suffer severe psychological trauma’ [7]. Despite the fact that the child in this case was not born intersex, at the time, the case was lauded as evidence that Money was right about how best to treat intersex infants.
Yeah but I also said:"Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. "
The NEXT sentence is:
"This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles arnong persons with a homosexual erotic developnient is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually."
As for Syo's second source, the article uses "heterosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the opposite sex, "bisexual" to mean someone who abuses both male and female children, and "homosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the same sex as themselves; not as a way of indicating their attraction to adults. This is also true of his first source as well.
Hmmm. perhaps I should've point out that autsomal chromosomes are different from the X & Y chromosome."It is of great interest that these genes are located in more than one autosomal chromosomes or even in the X chromosome." - The fifth sentence in the study Ryu uses to explain that genes determining sex have nothing to do with chromosomes.
Thanks for pointing this out and huritng your initial argument.When such exceptions occur their anomalous nature proves the rule. The rule is that XY= male and XX=female.
All genes are found in chromosomes and I admit I forgot that. Irregardless I realized you moved the goalposts from "X & Y Chromosomes" to chromosomes in general, so this isn't necessary to answer anymore.I did, all those genes are part of chromosomes. Where are these genes you said are not in chromosomes?
You mean all intersex conditions or just Fraiser syndrome?Except the part where the condition leads to life expectancy being under a year?
I gave more examples and you just focus on one to act like all intersex conditions are the same. Why don't you own that?"And you just focus on that unlike say all the other intersex conditions that don't fit this criteria?"
It was your example, dip shit. Own it.
I think you're wasting your time, chief. He seems like the kind of retard who thinks humans aren't sexually dimorphic until puberty.@ryu289
Just gonna flat out say it since you do not understand it. And for some reason have this obession on child sexual abuse which borders on you almost condoning it.
If a person who is male sexually abuses a male child that counts as homosexuality because his intended target is male. It does have to do with power as well, BUT the fact they chose male victims over female victims shows a propensity and favorism to homosexual behavior because they have chosen someone of them same sex.
Your linked study also makes that assertion is the norm. Linking to studies of genetic anomalies as proof of intersex being a third sex or whatever your goal is isn't helping your case but it is highlighting your desire to normalize your fetish desire to be bottom to a trans lady cock.Still my bad, should've slammed you on your idea that the X & Y chromosomes chiefly determine sex:
You didn't forget that, you refuted that because you haven't a clue about the content you are linking to.
You still don't understand the difference between the primary influence on a phenomena and secondary influences.Thanks for pointing this out and huritng your initial argument.
List your other examples and we'll explore the negative side effects that result from a genetic malfunction for each individual condition if you like. We'll start with non-viable reproductive capacity for all reproductive organs. (the entire world wishes this was your problem)I gave more examples and you just focus on one to act like all intersex conditions are the same. Why don't you own that?
If proving this dip shit wrong was about convincing him of reality and not tearing his BS to shreds for amusement you might have a point.I think you're wasting your time, chief. He seems like the kind of retard who thinks humans aren't sexually dimorphic until puberty.
Gays and pedophiles are two sides of the same coin.is it more accurate to say that the pedophilia community a high correlation of homosexuality?
It doesn't say that.Your linked study also makes that assertion is the norm. Linking to studies of genetic anomalies as proof of intersex being a third sex or whatever your goal is isn't helping your case but it is highlighting your desire to normalize your fetish desire to be bottom to a trans lady cock.
It is of great interest that these genes are located in more than one autosomal chromosomes or even in the X chromosome.
It has become obvious that sex determination, according to the genetic sex, is a complicated matter that not only requires the presence of Y chromosome. But, is only the genetic sex that defines gender? What about the internal genitalia, which after all specify the reproductive ability of a person? It is known that testes formation require the presence of two hormones: testosterone and AMH. So, a mutation of their gene or of their receptor gene results in feminization of the internal genitalia despite the presence of the Y chromosome.
And what about the first impression of the embryo sex? Impressions can be deceptive? Well, external genitalia are very important for the gender determination, as it can be inferred from the sex confusions that are registered just after the labour. The development of the male external genitalia depends on dehydrotestosterone (DHT). Two molecules of testosterone are converted to DHT by the intracellular enzyme 5α-reductase. Mutation of the enzyme or its receptor leads to DHT deficiency and, subsequently, to female external genitalia, in spite of the Y chromosome. DHT contributes, also, to the morphologic sex, as it formed by the secondary sexual characteristics of the male.
I didn't say anything about power that time. I said:If a person who is male sexually abuses a male child that counts as homosexuality because his intended target is male. It does have to do with power as well, BUT the fact they chose male victims over female victims shows a propensity and favorism to homosexual behavior because they have chosen someone of them same sex.
As for Syo's second source, the article uses "heterosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the opposite sex, "bisexual" to mean someone who abuses both male and female children, and "homosexual" to mean someone who abuses children of the same sex as themselves; not as a way of indicating their attraction to adults. This is also true of his first source as well.
Let see then:I do not have it backwards you simply are only reading abstracts and not understanding what they mean. You also only read abstracts.
As part of an ongoing investigation of potential epidemiological connections between gynephilia (an erotic preference for physically mature females), androphilia (an erotic prcfcrence for physically mature males), and heterosexual and homosexual pedophilia. the following study is an exploration of differences between heterosexual and homosexual pedophilia
Like other researchers, Freund draws a sharp distinction between attraction to adult males and attraction to prepubescent males. The clinical term he uses to describe the phenomenon of men who are attracted to other men is "androphilia"; attraction to adult women is known as "gynephilia." (Since pedophilia is rarely found in women, Freund's studies are based solely on men). Like other researchers, Freund has found that a high proportion of pedophiles prefer boys to girls, and that these pedophiles generally have little or no interest in adult males. Nowhere does Freund state that homosexuals are more inclined to molest children. In fact, according to a study he conducted of a sample of heterosexual and homosexual men, he found that there was no greater propensity for pedophilia among homosexuals than among heterosexuals: "the erotic attractiveness of male children (or pubescents) for androphiles is not greater than the erotic attractiveness of female children (or pubescents) to gynephiles."The typical ratios for heterosexual vs. homosexual pedophilia, which would be expected for each of these three hypotheses if valid, are 20: 1, a ratio notably larger than 20: 1, and a ratio notably smaller than 20: 1. The possibility that there is no etiological relationship whatsoever between pedophilic gender preference and gynephilia or androphilia cannot be excluded. Barring other factors, the most convincing support of this possibility would be a ratio of 1:11
Carlstedt et al. 2009, Sexual Abuse, 21(4), 442-454 "Offenders with 0- to 5-year-old victims significantly more often abused both boys and girls."
Levenson et al. 2008, Sexual Abuse, 20(1), 43-60: "The proportion of offenders with victims of both genders significantly increased as the victims' ages decreased, and sex offenders with preschool-age victims were most likely to have abused both boys and girls. A sex offender with a victim 6 years of age or younger had more than 3 times the odds of having perpetrated sex crimes against both genders than a sex offender with only older victims. Sex offenders with victims of both genders had more than 3 times the odds of having preschool victims."
As a final note...how come he said the proportions of heterosexuals(11) to homosexuals(1) was 11:1 but then said that homosexual pedophilia was more likely? I gave the answer above, but this is still weird math all things considered.Lang et al. 1988, Annals of sex research volume 1, 467–484 The results indicated that the majority of child victims (67%) were Tanner stage 1's, the least sexually mature. Of special import, it is the smaller, lighter, and least sexually mature children who appear to hold the most attraction for the sexual abuse perpetrator.
I did.List your other examples and we'll explore the negative side effects that result from a genetic malfunction for each individual condition if you like. We'll start with non-viable reproductive capacity for all reproductive organs. (the entire world wishes this was your problem)
The failure to socialise a child into a chosen gender identity after reassignment surgery in this one case is insufficient evidence, on its own, to refute Money’s original claims. More evidence was soon to follow, however. Greenberg cites a presentation given by William Reiner, a urologist and psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins Hospital, at a Paediatric Endocrine Society meeting in 2000. Reiner reported on preliminary findings of a study of 27 infant boys born without penises. Of these, 25 had undergone sex re-assignment surgery and had been raised as girls. Of these, only 14 ended up identifying as boys. Furthermore, the two infants who had not undergone surgery and were raised as boys were ‘better adjusted’ than the others [13]. Dolgin writes:
Far too many intersex adults who were raised as one gender or the other, after genital ‘normalisation’ surgery, turned out not to identify with the gender that had been assigned to them [15,16,17]. Of course, the knowledge we now have about gender identity shows that it is much more complex than we used to think it was, as the very existence of transgender people demonstrates. Furthermore, the whole idea was originally grounded in the work of Money, the underlying assumptions of which have been discredited. By now, the idea that we can simply socialise a child into a chosen gender has been thoroughly debunked and any health professional still making that claim opens themselves to the accusation of being ignorant or wilfully ignoring the evidence. Yet, these surgeries continue. Most often, this is because the health professionals still hold to the truth of the second assumption, that surgery is in the best interests of the child. This is a claim about the psycho-social well-being of the intersex person. Returning to my principle, I have stated that because these interventions are so drastic, they should only be performed where there is evidence that they are, all things considered, beneficial and not harmful. There is plenty of evidence that these surgeries cause many kinds of harm. Greenberg writes that some intersex activists and expertsresearch has failed to demonstrate that early surgery to re-shape an intersex child’s genitals, accompanied by socialization within the assigned gender, results in a better or ‘more typical’ childhood. To the contrary, surgery to conform the appearance of genitalia to a gender selected by doctors and/or parents early in a child’s life is likely to result in psychological difficulties that affect the child and the adult that child will become [14].
Cresti describes some of the consequences of early surgeries as ‘pain, lifelong depression, incontinence, and scarring’ and points out thatbelieve that the traditional model results in stigma and trauma. Because of the emphasis on ‘normalizing’ the infant’s genitalia, parents will experience guilt and shame over giving birth to an ‘abnormal’ baby and the intersex patient will experience a sense of rejection. They question the traditional assumption that concealing or downplaying the existence of the intersex condition will help the family lead a ‘normal’ life [13].
Greenberg provides a comprehensive account of the harms that intersex persons who have had early surgery experience:another objection is that early surgery is ‘worthless mutilation’ that causes damage to individuals who have not chosen to be subjected to those interventions. Indeed, those interventions reduce sexual pleasure in many cases…, impose a sex that might not coincide with future gender identity, and in most cases are irreversible. Furthermore, outcome studies are scarce and surgical outcomes are uncertain [15].
During the 1990s, a number of intersex activist groups also began to question the standard protocol for treating intersexuality. Because genital surgery may result in a loss of reproductive capacity, a loss of erotic response, genital pain or discomfort, infections, scarring, urinary incontinence, and genitalia that are not cosmetically acceptable, these groups believe that such surgery should not be performed without the informed consent of the intersex patient. In addition, they maintain that the current treatment protocol exacerbates an intersexual’s sense of shame by reinforcing cultural norms of sexual abnormality [13].
Have you ever heard of effect modifiers? There you go.Your position is that biological sex is not determined by X-Y chromosome make up because in rare instances of genetic malfunction sex can be indeterminate regardless.
Dude.....Where do I fetishize them?