Prison Letters Chris writes me from Prison (dated September 19th, 2021)

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The Neutral Observer said:
I don't know enough about the circumstances to say how much Chris is responsible for his actions in this whole mess. But I am sad to see that it has gotten to this point. But maybe prison will be good for Chris in some ways. It's clear that he's needed someone or something to take control of him for awhile.
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I've known a few people with his kind of thinking and personality. The only thing that did them any good at all was, as you allude to, a very controlled and predictable daily life.
 
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Cuntflaps said:
Some of the things Chris has done have been the result of things he cannot control. Some of the things Chris has done have been the result of manipulation by malicious parties. Some of the things Chris has done have been the result of his own stupidity. Some of the creepier things Chris has done have actually just been harmless and only seem particularly weird because of how awkward he is. Some of the creepier things Chris has done have been genuinely weird and worthy of more scrutiny. Which of these labels applies to any given situation/action is a determination which every observer must make individually after careful examination and (maybe) debate with others. People are probably only "wrong" when they attempt to explain the entirety of Chris's life with one simple line (he's dumb, he's autistic, he's a sexual deviant, etc.). It would also be "wrong" to claim that all the worst possible interpretations of past events must necessarily be true because the Motherfucker Saga, a current event, is so horrible and clearly Chris's fault.
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Adding to this, there’s definitely a fine line between feeling pity for an individual in unfortunate circumstances and thinking they’re blameless for anything they’ve done.

Chris was failed by everybody and everything around him, exploited to hell and back by numerous malicious third parties (whether that be trolls or corporations that hooked him with their propaganda) and lived his entire childhood not able to grasp the concept that he did in fact need help and intervention for his problems because of his parents sheltering him and telling him how special and amazing he was. It’s understandable to feel for someone in that situation and acknowledge that it’s a bad one to be in.

At the same time though, years of learning of his exploits and documenting them online show that despite all his mental handicaps, Chris is still a selfish, entitled asshole who will happily use anyone for his own benefit, to the point where he feels justified in raping his elderly mother because it felt good. He has made many, many mistakes over the course of his life and actively belittled and shat all over anyone who tried to help or change him in exchange for living in his fantasy world of magic and pop culture where he never has to be held accountable for anything. Chris is a bad person.

Acknowledging that Chris could have and debatably SHOULD have been dealt a much better hand in life doesn’t mean you suddenly believe he’s faultless for the constant lack of regard he’s expressed for everyone and everything that isn't himself.
 
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StickFruit said:
Adding to this, there’s definitely a fine line between feeling pity for an individual in unfortunate circumstances and thinking they’re blameless for anything they’ve done.

Chris was failed by everybody and everything around him, exploited to hell and back by numerous malicious third parties (whether that be trolls or corporations that hooked him with their propaganda) and lived his entire childhood not able to grasp the concept that he did in fact need help and intervention for his problems because of his parents sheltering him and telling him how special and amazing he was. It’s understandable to feel for someone in that situation and acknowledge that it’s a bad one to be in.

At the same time though, years of learning of his exploits and documenting them online show that despite all his mental handicaps, Chris is still a selfish, entitled asshole who will happily use anyone for his own benefit, to the point where he feels justified in raping his elderly mother because it felt good. He has made many, many mistakes over the course of his life and actively belittled and shat all over anyone who tried to help or change him in exchange for living in his fantasy world of magic and pop culture where he never has to be held accountable for anything. Chris is a bad person.

Acknowledging that Chris could have and debatably SHOULD have been dealt a much better hand in life doesn’t mean you suddenly believe he’s faultless for the constant lack of regard he’s expressed for everyone and everything that isn't himself.
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Yep, multiple things can be true at once. His parents failed him (honestly should have aborted... no way that ancient sperm and egg would have wrought anything useful). The social services system failed him (APS is totally fucking toothless in most states... there should have been social workers and therapists up their butts from day one... but all they "decline services" and APS just walks away... that's the way it works!). The medical system failed him. The schools, justice, etc. Also his church and his extended family.

BUT in spite of all those things... He keeps doing ugly fucked up shit again and again. The time he pepper sprayed that dude at gamestop - video shows him strolling out of the store and kinda crop dusting the dude- and then cried victim ("i was scared, i had to defend myself") shows that he's very capable of lying to attempt to protect himself from consequences. He has the capability to learn. But again and again he chooses to ignore others' boundaries - especially those of women.

Whatever happens next for Chris... its not gonna be good.
 
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StickFruit said:
Chris is still a selfish, entitled asshole who will happily use anyone for his own benefit, to the point where he feels justified in raping his elderly mother because it felt good. He has made many, many mistakes over the course of his life and actively belittled and shat all over anyone who tried to help or change him in exchange for living in his fantasy world of magic and pop culture where he never has to be held accountable for anything. Chris is a bad person.
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No matter how many times Chris tries to tell everyone he's the paragon of kindness, there's no hiding who he really is. He'll refuse any type of constructive criticism (it was one of the reasons why Chris had such a strained relationship with Bob, because the former mistook that for negativity) and that he never does look at himself as something to improve. Chris will say "I've learned from my mistakes", but it's always at face value. The timing for Chris was just right when he became a Lesbian transwoman so that he can be shielded by the SJW's because he knows that they would be 100% supportive of his behaviors.

Other than the misgendering, some in that LGBT/SJW community are starting to see Chris for who he really is. I suppose they refuse to look further into the CWCki because it was made by trolls (with the help of Chris who was more than willing to give them the info in the first place) because, like his parents, they believe Chris is special. I've said it before, but the time for "Chris didn't know any better, he's autistic." is over. Even those lefties are learning that Chris is a lost cause. Even if he's out on the streets, you'll be hard pressed to find anyone to even associate with him anymore (perhaps Ethan just to see how much milk he can squeeze out). And the sad part is that Chris will not have learn a damn thing from this as he tries to convince people he did nothing wrong, only to be forcibly removed from Ruckersville/Charlottesville into the nearest pervert park.
 
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StickFruit said:
Acknowledging that Chris could have and debatably SHOULD have been dealt a much better hand in life doesn’t mean you suddenly believe he’s faultless for the constant lack of regard he’s expressed for everyone and everything that isn't himself.
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Couldn't agree more.
I think my opinions have changed a bit with this whole situation, and I'd argue the same could be said of a lot of people.
The Bella situation I think is showing a lot of the people who haven't been around since the Bluespike/Julay stuff that, while Chris is an autist who does retarded shit all the time, there's also something to be said about the more malicious trolls (ie Idea Guy, Bella, etc) being accountable for a lot of the deterioration of Chris' mental state.
I wouldn't say that him fucking his mom is totally something trolls caused, don't get me wrong, but it does beg the question: Would CWC have fucked his mom if he didn't have the "celebrity" that surrounds him today?
 
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bernadette said:
The time he pepper sprayed that dude at gamestop - video shows him strolling out of the store and kinda crop dusting the dude- and then cried victim ("i was scared, i had to defend myself") shows that he's very capable of lying to attempt to protect himself from consequences.
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"Don’t call anybody." He said as He walked out of the Gamestop. That statement shows Chris knew at the time that what He did was wrong.

So with Law and Order coming back, think they will do a episode based on the motherfucking saga?
 
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StickFruit said:
Adding to this, there’s definitely a fine line between feeling pity for an individual in unfortunate circumstances and thinking they’re blameless for anything they’ve done.

Chris was failed by everybody and everything around him, exploited to hell and back by numerous malicious third parties (whether that be trolls or corporations that hooked him with their propaganda) and lived his entire childhood not able to grasp the concept that he did in fact need help and intervention for his problems because of his parents sheltering him and telling him how special and amazing he was. It’s understandable to feel for someone in that situation and acknowledge that it’s a bad one to be in.

At the same time though, years of learning of his exploits and documenting them online show that despite all his mental handicaps, Chris is still a selfish, entitled asshole who will happily use anyone for his own benefit, to the point where he feels justified in raping his elderly mother because it felt good. He has made many, many mistakes over the course of his life and actively belittled and shat all over anyone who tried to help or change him in exchange for living in his fantasy world of magic and pop culture where he never has to be held accountable for anything. Chris is a bad person.

Acknowledging that Chris could have and debatably SHOULD have been dealt a much better hand in life doesn’t mean you suddenly believe he’s faultless for the constant lack of regard he’s expressed for everyone and everything that isn't himself.
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So I have been passively watching Chris Chan for the past decade like many others here and I strongly agree with this post with one caveat/addition.

I spent a lot of time as a kid volunteering at a school for disabled children and adults (was SUPER catholic growing up and my Church was heavily involved in the school despite it being public) and I have always known or at least felt that Chris has always been far more disabled than most Christorians really understand. Not only does Chris remind me of the severely disabled autistic adults that I would work with, he also reminds me of the adult 80s crack babies that would go to the school. I'm not saying that Chris is a crack baby but Barb and Bob were obviously severe alcholics (a point that many seem to overlook) and there's no doubt that Barb was drinking during her pregnancy. Many of the FAS/Crack children as adults would exhibit psychopathic or NPD patterns of behavior but most were not really "there" enough to think of any sort of scheme beyond "let me steal an extra cookie" or something similar.

The other thing I should mention is that many severly disabled adults with Autism are able to talk and hold conversations like 'normal people' but they just seem a little bit off. Chris is like this and I think most people see that he's able to communicate and use a computer and think "oh man this guy isn't r*tarded" he's not drooling on himself of shitting his pants as an adult (which Chris actually does) lets bully him because he gets disability - he's just a lazy asshole - he needs to work and contribute to society". But in reality Chris is just as disabled as someone wearing a bike helmet in a wheelchair. You could make the argument that had his circumstances been different he may have turned out differently but those days are long gone. It's a nature vs nuture kind of argument that is now irrelevant. Chris will never be able to take care of himself, and he has shown that he is incapable of making important decisions on his own. Had he had actual parents he would have been able to recieve the life assistance that he needs early on and he probably would have been able to live a happy purposeful life in a group home. Sadly though, this never happened and the problems have only gotten worse to the point at which he is now an actual threat to the public.

I wish it did not have to be this way but in America with public mental instutions the way they are, people like Chris get put in jail everyday. You can not have mentally disabled sex criminals on the street, and there really is no other place to put them. It's really a tragedy and it has been really painful to watch all of this but yeah Chris Chan is basically the last generation of mentally disabled Children with elederly parents that don't understand modern mental healthcare. A phenomenon like this may never happen again but do not let this lesson go unlearned. Severe mental disabilities in a vacuum never produce anything good. If you see Chris as a person with agency I'm really sorry but you should really treat everything Chris says as if it's coming from someone wearing a helmet and drooling on themselves.
 
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CerealKilla420 said:
So I have been passively watching Chris Chan for the past decade like many others here and I strongly agree with this post with one caveat/addition.

I spent a lot of time as a kid volunteering at a school for disabled children and adults (was SUPER catholic growing up and my Church was heavily involved in the school despite it being public) and I have always known or at least felt that Chris has always been far more disabled than most Christorians really understand. Not only does Chris remind me of the severely disabled autistic adults that I would work with, he also reminds me of the adult 80s crack babies that would go to the school. I'm not saying that Chris is a crack baby but Barb and Bob were obviously severe alcholics (a point that many seem to overlook) and there's no doubt that Barb was drinking during her pregnancy. Many of the FAS/Crack children as adults would exhibit psychopathic or NPD patterns of behavior but most were not really "there" enough to think of any sort of scheme beyond "let me steal an extra cookie" or something similar.

The other thing I should mention is that many severly disabled adults with Autism are able to talk and hold conversations like 'normal people' but they just seem a little bit off. Chris is like this and I think most people see that he's able to communicate and use a computer and think "oh man this guy isn't r*tarded" he's not drooling on himself of shitting his pants as an adult (which Chris actually does) lets bully him because he gets disability - he's just a lazy asshole - he needs to work and contribute to society". But in reality Chris is just as disabled as someone wearing a bike helmet in a wheelchair. You could make the argument that had his circumstances been different he may have turned out differently but those days are long gone. It's a nature vs nuture kind of argument that is now irrelevant. Chris will never be able to take care of himself, and he has shown that he is incapable of making important decisions on his own. Had he had actual parents he would have been able to recieve the life assistance that he needs early on and he probably would have been able to live a happy purposeful life in a group home. Sadly though, this never happened and the problems have only gotten worse to the point at which he is now an actual threat to the public.

I wish it did not have to be this way but in America with public mental instutions the way they are, people like Chris get put in jail everyday. You can not have mentally disabled sex criminals on the street, and there really is no other place to put them. It's really a tragedy and it has been really painful to watch all of this but yeah Chris Chan is basically the last generation of mentally disabled Children with elederly parents that don't understand modern mental healthcare. A phenomenon like this may never happen again but do not let this lesson go unlearned. Severe mental disabilities in a vacuum never produce anything good. If you see Chris as a person with agency I'm really sorry but you should really treat everything Chris says as if it's coming from someone wearing a helmet and drooling on themselves.
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Yep.
 
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I Just Ate a Bandicoot said:
...do you think that Chris would commit suicide if given the opportunity?
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I really don't think that Chris will ever neck himself. It's not in his character. He's an absolute egotist and narcissist who believes himself to be the most amazing goddess (or god, now? Who knows? Who cares?) that's ever existed. He wants lots and lots of arse pats, money, MLP toys and china, and he expects to get them.

Killing himself would mean that he might not get all of that. His genuine greed will always outweigh any theoretical suicidal tendencies that he might have. Also, he doesn't have the stones to An Hero himself. (NB to avoid misinterpretation, no, I'm not saying that suicide is an act of astounding bravery or courage. Simply that it does imply a certain self-destructive resolve which Chris doesn't possess.)

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The artist missed a trick in not giving the lawyer MLW horns rather than stupid anime cat ears.
 
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