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Never did I ever foresee, Pekora just casually getting Sana into a discord call just so she can use her as a test subject for her suicide device. The bunny has come so far to just now just call people out of the blue, when back in the day she was one of the most socially awkward going.

This server merge is one the best things to happen to the holos in quite some time now.
How can a mortal man keep up with so much MC collab content since the server merge? I have to make money too
 
Kronii nihonggo jozu?

I thought Kronii practices nipponese? Or she hasn't have that conversational level, or she is just hiding her powerlevels?
She listed Japanese as "learning" in her debut stream, and apparently her past life had the same pattern (English, Korean, and weaker Japanese). When she reads or speaks Japanese in solo streams she takes her time, so I'd guess not fully conversational.

On that note, I'm not sure how far to take the idea that Council has better Japanese than Myth. Baelz is fluent and Sana pulls up the average, but the other three seem to match roughly with Myth's three least proficient.

Fauna and Mumei seems to have zero experience.
Mumei "can't form sentences fast enough for conversation", in her words.

Also it's hilarious that Subaru pronounces "llama" better than Kronii's Japanese-accented take.
 
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I saw VTuberCringe's post, came to the thread and saw that. Why do I get the feeling Artia fans are going down in a blaze of glory trying to cope by false flagging her actions? Cause a lot of the shit they say to defend her wound up in his post and it's clear he didn't write the message.

Edit: That said, everything in Cringe's post is unsubstantiated as far as I know and Judas' fanbase would be spamming screenshots and clips of her saying any of this if it was true. Artia was a self-obsessed rat who would say anything to defend herself and has played both sides in the past. So me seeing nothing from even fans makes me really disinterested in believing this cope.

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She bullied a TW HoloCN member and cheered the antis on against Coco and other. I'm not going to feel sorry for her when she had a way out and did it to herself.
 
She bullied a TW HoloCN member and cheered the antis on against Coco and other. I'm not going to feel sorry for her when she had a way out and did it to herself.
I stand by my statements, there is no doubt left to benefit to Artia and she has done everything in her power to ensure this. I will not afford my sympathy to someone so utterly undeserving because literal Redditors enjoy ugly chink girl pandering to them.

Edit: Her fans are also absolute trash and do nothing to help her seem sympathetic and I will not forget or forgive their insane crusade to try and bleach the record about her and spamming up other threads. China delenda est.
 
Well, I'm not cringing at the Wave 3 interactions so far which is a good sign. Some nice banter between all the members which is pretty standard faire for these pre-debut days.

I wasn't expecting that voice to come out of Nina, though. Lord knows that the only thing restraining me right now are the rules of this site.
 
On that note, I'm not sure how far to take the idea that Council has better Japanese than Myth. Baelz is fluent and Sana pulls up the average, but the other three seem to match roughly with Myth's three least proficient.
Basing from this stream, Myth seems to have better japanese proficiency as a whole, compared to Council. Sana and Baelz are having a fluent conversation; Kiara is proficient enough, whereas Ina still stutters and takes a little more time to respond properly. Both Kronii and Calli are still learning, albeit the latter speaks more due to requirement. Gura and Ame are powerthrough-ing it; Fauna and Mumei seems to have zero experience.
Good god, I haven't laugh this hard at a clip for a while now. It's amazing. Server merge is the greatest idea ever in deed! Wish Coco is seeing this. You contribution make this happen, Kaichou.
Botan calling for Coco really hits the kokoro
 
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Subaru ft. PolKronii clips are out:
Its ENtertainment afterall
Kronii nihonggo jozu?

I thought Kronii practices nipponese? Or she hasn't have that conversational level, or she is just hiding her powerlevels?

Pekora's first official activity after the link is to create a fucking trap; sasauga war criminal. Also, Sana is on discord with her.

edit: Seems like Sana studied in Japan, thats why her JP is jozu af

Also, the imposter syndrome catching up to him. Remember folks:
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Good god, I haven't laugh this hard at a clip for a while now. It's amazing. Server merge is the greatest idea ever in deed! Wish Coco is seeing this. You contribution make this happen, Kaichou.
 
Gawr Gura - $514,768
Maybe misinterpreting the data, but damn, does Gura just attract poorfags or are Calli/Kiara simps that strong? It's wild to me she has a million+ sub lead on both of them but is outpaced monetary wise.

What a fickle market.
 
Remind me of how those OnlyFan thots also live a high life until rumor porn ban floating around that they throw a fit since they will no longer have ez money. Girls like that spend all they earn in order to … impress other girls. Unlike men who don’t need much validation from other, girls need validations from other girls that’s the society we are in today.

For decent success male streamers, the first thing they think was getting a mortgage or pay off their current one while female streamers tend to go for those high end luxury like the next LV hand bags, designer clothes, jewelry (probably just buy it base on price and never bother to check or research what makes a piece of stone expensive etc.).
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The missing link is here. Also, we didn't include OnlyFans. What are you smoking. The whiplash I got from talking about possible finances of streamers to the spending habits of people posting their porn vids behind a paywall. How did we get here??

Streaming is almost a proper job. Fuck, it can be if you decide on a schedule and can even be longer than a regular 9 to 5, 5 day job. And it can be worse too because you almost cannot take vacations, are more or less at the mercy of your viewers/fans, are bound to your sponsors, have to watch what you say etc etc. This isn't including possibly signing up with an agency, which some streamers do. If you've gone this far ballsdeep into that industry, a smart person would have also hired a decent finance person to do 1) your taxes because the IRS gives no fucks and wants their cut one way or the other 2) advise and/or make investments for you because all you've done is stream for the last year to ten and have no clue how to deal with your money.

OnlyFans? I equate that to stripping on the side at a truck stop. It's dirty, it's filty, the money's so-so depending how much horni is in the room. Oh and most of those who do it are like crack addicts, spending their money on stupid shit instead of bills. At no point are there any smart users on there unless they go to rehab or have someone else holding their hands. So yes, any time their source of income gets threatened, they're gonna start scurrying around like the diseased rats they are.
If we're just looking at half a million, when you have someone young, vain, and stupid it doesn't go that far. No, Veibae isn't going to fail at life, at least not for the foreseeable future, but half a million alone doesn't really require a financial manager. If Pokimane dropped to Veibae's level, with her lifestyle, she'd be living under a bridge within 6 months if she didn't start living well below her means. You can live very comfortably on half a million by never touching it and letting it build for your eventual retirement and/or living off of interest.

These are numbers for, what? A month? A year? Veibae likely has more that half a million but the comment was about half a million which isn't much when you're young and you want to emulate the ethot lifestyle of Pokimane and the like. A big house and a nice car would probably leave her in a bind.

Veibae is a dumb bitch with the face of a dollar store mannequin and I would not have sex with her but I do have to applaud Zen. The dude has ran the con very successfully and made a shit ton of money doing so. We now see why he freaks the fuck out, paranoia.

E: Also on Zen. Zen is most likely not a troon, his voice didn't exactly come off soyboyish either when he had his girlfriend voicing Zen. He's just a G.I.R.L. for money.
Half a million is a big change up for a lot of people and a decent financial injection. Even if it is just temporary, it can be enough to make decent changes if you're smart about it. Has Veibae been smart about it? Unless you're her personal finance manager (if she even has one), who the fuck knows. It's all conjecture at this point.
You contribution make this happen, Kaichou.
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it's enough to make you shed a tear every time you think about it
 
First amendment is a bitch.

These are the numbers I have from my script. The data is from August 1st 2019 to October 1st 2021.
yuniluna​
$15,540.37​
projektmelody​
$355,827.18​
prayersfromabigail​
$9,418.23​
nyanners​
$434,790.17​
apricot​
$126,133.99​
zentreya​
$464,334.09​
silvervale​
$328,656.14​
ironmouse​
$668,920.57​
hajime​
$18,791.55​
veibae​
$490,622.56​
cdawgva​
$106,730.93​
snuffy​
$225,641.08​
sakuramiko_hololive​
$117,921.23​
usadapekora_hololive​
$25,045.28​
kana
$5,738.02​

Our girl made year's worth of minimum wage from Twitch. LETS GO!

Let me know who else is of interest. It's easy to batch them, but each run takes a while.
This is hololive total SC for this year

>Hololive (JP)
Kiryu Coco* - $1,465,968
Uruha Rushia - $1,353,640
Houshou Marine - $762,120
Yukihana Lamy - $726,989
Usada Pekora - $693,832
Amane Kanata - $668,392
Momosuzu Nene - $560,134
Tsunomaki Watame - $486,206
Inugami Korone - $443,361
Sakura Miko - $437,366
Minato Aqua - $414,834
Shiranui Flare - $414,482
Oozora Subaru - $377,808
Nekomata Okayu - $361,675
Shirogane Noel - $352,592
Nakiri Ayame - $348,544
Natsuiro Matsuri - $278,789
Tokoyami Towa - $259,536
Shishiro Botan - $257,366
Hoshimachi Suisei - $232,687
Shirakami Fubuki - $216,424
Ookami Mio - $195,329
Akai Haato - $194,929
Aki Rosenthal - $188,285
Murasaki Shion - $170,012
Himemori Luna - $163,612
Omaru Polka - $148,845
Tokino Sora - $107,344
Roboco - $101,670
Yuzuki Choco - $54,669
Yozora Mel - $52,268
Total - $12,490,708

>Hololive EN
Mori Calliope - $623,450
Takanashi Kiara - $587,010
Gawr Gura - $514,768
Amelia Watson - $310,213
Ninomae Ina'nis - $275,866
IRyS - $98,359
Ouro Kronii - $86,704
Tsukumo Sana - $42,594
Nanashi Mumei - $37,261
Hakos Baelz - $32,366
Ceres Fauna - $25,527
Total - $2,634,118

>Holostars
Yukoku Roberu - $109,642
Astel Leda - $78,980
Arurandeisu - $69,117
Kageyama Shien - $66,547
Aragami Oga - $55,965
Kishido Temma - $50,898
Rikka - $38,354
Kanade Izuru - $31,964
Hanasaki Miyabi - $26,501
Total - $527,968

>Hololive ID
Kureiji Ollie - $152,571
Pavolia Reine - $78,781
Anya Melfissa - $39,882
Moona Hoshinova - $33,423
Airani Iofifteen - $27,674
Ayunda Risu - $21,133
Total - $353,464

>Inonaka Music
AZKi - $37,994

Hololive Productions total - $15,516,284
I’ll guess I’ll stick with being wagecuck and play stock with those WSB retards
 
Maybe misinterpreting the data, but damn, does Gura just attract poorfags or are Calli/Kiara simps that strong? It's wild to me she has a million+ sub lead on both of them but is outpaced monetary wise.

What a fickle market.
Neither Gura nor Ina do a lot of superchat readings, though (somewhat anecdotal) data collected by autists suggest Gura and Ina have the most amount of memberships.
 
Maybe misinterpreting the data, but damn, does Gura just attract poorfags or are Calli/Kiara simps that strong? It's wild to me she has a million+ sub lead on both of them but is outpaced monetary wise.

What a fickle market.

Mentioned it before and I concede it's pretty anecdotal, but Gura's streams show up (VODs or Live) on the autoplay of my little siblings' YouTube channels when they watch some brain-melting shit like Plants vs Zombies and the Minecraft-for-Kids content creators.

I think Gura probably has the largest number of people who aren't aware of what V-Tubing is, or its norms, or possibly has a sizeable demographic of younger people with no money of their own.

She also has the lowest percentage of Twitter follower to YouTube subs in the company, meaning people are subscribing to Gura on YouTube and aren't looking anywhere else. Her live viewers are normally a little over half of Pekora's and yet her VOD views are very similar, implying to me that lots of her viewerbase are not watching live and therefore not able to donate.

Still, if we are talking $500,000+ and my figures/merch selling out, I'd be happy with a couple million freeloaders. Gotta keep perspective on this. I doubt a girl who started her career literally playing 'House' on YouTube is rueing Calli and Kiara besting her.
 
Maybe misinterpreting the data, but damn, does Gura just attract poorfags or are Calli/Kiara simps that strong? It's wild to me she has a million+ sub lead on both of them but is outpaced monetary wise.

What a fickle market.
I think it's partially their crowd and partially how much "effort" the audience feel they've put in? Like look at Calli's music, it's unironically good music, while Gura doesn't really post any music.

I do also think you can see a lot more character developement in Calli this year, actually dealing with her inferiority complex in a more public way than what Gura did. People resonate with it.

Then again, this might all just be my autism.
 
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Thanks for explanations, I can't really keep up with the crunchier/behind the scenes aspects of vtubing so I appreciate y'all for being on top of this.

Edit: I also didn't really mean it as diss to Gura, I'm sure she's doing well for herself, it was more just a surprise for an outsider like me who just sees big sub count and assumes she's raking it in in comparison to her genmates.
 
Thanks for explanations, I can't really keep up with the crunchier/behind the scenes aspects of vtubing so I appreciate y'all for being on top of this.

Edit: I also didn't really mean it as diss to Gura, I'm sure she's doing well for herself, it was more just a surprise for an outsider like me who just sees big sub count and assumes she's raking it in in comparison to her genmates.
I don't think anyone thinks you are dissing Gura, it's quite clear that they have different audiences. Usually when people collab you'll see one person staying around their usual numbers while the other go up, but when Gura and Calli do stuff togethey they both get higher numbers. It's different crowds, and I do think Callis crowd is a bit older or more mature on average, not that Gura's audience are children, but it's definitely a different crowd.
 
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