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Former Michigan chief medical executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun named new VP of CVS Health

Khaldun accepts position as vice president, chief health equity officer​

“Thanks to Dr. J’s around-the-clock leadership, our state acted quickly with the best available data and science to slow the spread of COVID-19 and save countless lives during the pandemic,” Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said. “At the height of COVID-19, we stood side by side to keep our state safe through one of the most difficult periods in our lives.”

“Dr. J sounded the alarm on COVID-19 disproportionately impacting people of color, and she co-chaired the Michigan Coronavirus Task Force on Racial Disparities, which has made significant progress towards reducing COVID-19 mortality rate disparities for Michiganders of color,”
How quickly the nursing home holocaust has been forgotten.
 
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Former Michigan chief medical executive Dr. Joneigh Khaldun named new VP of CVS Health

Khaldun accepts position as vice president, chief health equity officer​


How quickly the nursing home holocaust has been forgotten.
So this poster is evidence that they're fooling the rubes into taking the COVID shots by saying it is the annual flu shot? 🤔
 
If the vaccines aren't 100% effective, then what's the point in the mandate?

At best, they're 90% effective, meaning 10% of your workforce are as good as unvaccinated.

Still can't get my head around 1) How it's going forward and 2) How everybody isn't saying "Hold on a minute, this doesn't sound right..."
90% effective in blocking transmission would make the vax worthwhile. You don't need a 100% immunity in a population to have some level of herd immunity. But all evidence indicates that the corona vaxes aren't close to 90% and basically useless in stopping the epidemic.
 
90% effective in blocking transmission would make the vax worthwhile. You don't need a 100% immunity in a population to have some level of herd immunity. But all evidence indicates that the corona vaxes aren't close to 90% and basically useless in stopping the epidemic.
90% may be worthwhile, but mandating the vaccine on the grounds of keeping people safe is a lie, if 10% of your work force are effectively non-vaccinated. Out of 1 million people, 100,000 aren't vaxxed. and seems as it's impossible to tell who is and isn't vaccinated, it renders the whole thing stupid and pointless.
 
Member earlier in the thread when we were discussing how they were going to start vaccinating animals and pets against Covid. Remember how we lol'd at a 4chan meme coming to life (again)

Yeah about that




They'll be rolling out mandatory vaccination for pet puppers and pussies. We all know it's coming.

"Scientists have discovered that pet owners are at risk from catching Covid from Fido. Here's how you can protect yourself and your beloved companion animal through accessing Pfizer's newly formulated animal mRNA vaccine. Also consider Merck's new vet AIDS pill as a preventative'.

Plus mandatory Covid microchips if you want to take them for a walk. There's a lot of money in the pet business. Why shouldn't big pharma get their fair share?
This is just gonna wipeout the pet population. Probably on purpose. "You'll own nothing and be happy."
 
my uni promised they will test every unvaccinated person every week, and it hasn't been enforced at all. i got an invitation email once all this time (starting fall semester). honestly, they dont even have a way to tell if i have been on a cumpus.

if i was a vaxx cuck, i would be furious that university lies that blatantly and doesnt give a fuck, after screaming from every roof how they will protect the student community. but im not, im just an extra in a funny pandemic theatre.
 
my uni promised they will test every unvaccinated person every week, and it hasn't been enforced at all. i got an invitation email once all this time (starting fall semester). honestly, they dont even have a way to tell if i have been on a cumpus.

if i was a vaxx cuck, i would be furious that university lies that blatantly and doesnt give a fuck, after screaming from every roof how they will protect the student community. but im not, im just an extra in a funny pandemic theatre.
Forcing a cotton swab way up in somebody's nasal cavity every week can't be good for those student's health either.

Again though, it's not about health, but to humiliate you into submission.
 
my uni promised they will test every unvaccinated person every week, and it hasn't been enforced at all. i got an invitation email once all this time (starting fall semester). honestly, they dont even have a way to tell if i have been on a cumpus.

if i was a vaxx cuck, i would be furious that university lies that blatantly and doesnt give a fuck, after screaming from every roof how they will protect the student community. but im not, im just an extra in a funny pandemic theatre.
That's the secret sauce about all this shit.
All this panic about a pandemic, but no pandemic-level restrictions?
All this shit about antivaxxery, yet it's less about the vaccine itself and more about the mandates?
Oh and who could. Ever. Forever. Forget. TWO MASKS. But not really. Oh wait I didn't mean it wouldn't not work for the absolutely not pandemic that is totally a not not not not not problem. Said by the retard that said you could spread AIDs in cereal, and hasn't been fire for his blunders on.. three FUCKING SEPERATE PANDEMICS.

This enitre shit is contrived on purpose. Especially since it took literally two months to find the cause and virus type.
 
But what would happen if the West complies and gets the vast majority of their population injected with Part 1 of Something, and the Chinese then say “Hey Ameritards here’s a video of what happens to people injected with Part 1 when we infect them with Part 2“ and there we see hearts exploding and of course males rendered infertile and females rendered incapable of carrying to term.

And then they say “hey Ameritards...let’s negotiate.”
Mass public lynchings and war. If you told the world they were going to pony up in order to appease a regime many of them dislike? All hell would break loose.
Where I am, I think a lot of people still believe it's super deadly and serious. I've got coworkers who aren't visiting their elderly parents as much because they're afraid they'll kill them with asymptomatic coof, both in & out of work I'd say maybe 10-15% of people are still wearing masks -- not the worst, but there's no mandate in place currently. Got berated by a taxi driver for not wearing one, "I'm double-vaccinated, but I still want to make sure that I'm safe, so I'm wearing one even now", think he gave me a shit rating cos I didn't comply. All of the Uber and other similar services here have to wear them, and almost all comply.

Lots of people are still afraid to go out and frequent the few smaller businesses that are still left, so they will continue to go under. And the wealthy are buying up the leases for stores that were making a lot of money pre-pandemic but since have had to close down - sure, they'll lose money at the moment, because fewer people are confident in going out, but the idea is that when things get 'back to normal', they'll be raking it in. Meanwhile, the former store owner has probably had to go bankrupt.

The transfer of wealth to the rich has been abominable.
I cannot wait for the 23rd.
Best case, and probably the most likely scenario, is that the vaccinated will be fine as long as they don't take booster jabs. But we should all remember that Covid is not a natural zoonotic virus, it WAS cooked up in a lab. There has been many years of research and thousands of man hours gone in to making this virus. So for sure it's perfectly rational to wonder if there might be a Part 2 to the story.
I doubt it, but if that premise ever comes to light, what happens to those of us who chose not to comply?
Journoroach disingenuity...finds a way.
It always does. The point of journalists isn't really to inform though is it?
 
the fun just begun!
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The FDA plans to allow vaccinated Americans to receive a different booster shot from the vaccine they originally received, a measure that health officials have petitioned for weeks, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The FDA plans to allow vaccinated Americans to receive a different booster shot from the vaccine they originally received, a measure that health officials have petitioned for weeks, The Wall Street Journal reported.

The agency will not recommend one booster shot over another, and instead allow individuals and their vaccine providers to choose a different brand at their own discretion, WSJ said.

The paper said the panel is expected to authorize booster shots for the Moderna and Johnson & Johnson by Wednesday night this week, hoping to expand the booster shot opportunities to eligible Americans. The agency could approve the “mix and match” approach by then, according to WSJ.

The plan to allow the mixing of vaccines was first reported by The New York Times.

The planned authorization comes after researchers from the National Institute of Health [NIH] met on Friday and presented the findings of a federally funded “mix and match” study to an FDA panel of medical experts, analyzing antibody levels in patients when their booster shot was different from their vaccine.

The FDA panel is expected to approve Moderna and Johnson & Johnson booster shots this week.
The FDA panel is expected to approve Moderna and Johnson & Johnson booster shots this week.

The study found that those who received the Johnson & Johnson say a greater increase in antibodies from a booster shot of the Moderna vaccine than from a booster of Johnson & Johnson. Researchers also found that a booster of the Pfizer vaccine also raised the antibody levels of Johnson & Johnson recipients more than booster of J&J, but not as high as Moderna, according to The Times.

State Health officials have asked the FDA for this approval to allow patients to receive a booster that is either more readily available or determined to be safer for the patient by their own doctor.

The FDA panel unanimously endorsed the emergency authorization of the J&J booster on Friday, amid fears that the vaccine may be less effective than the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines. Officials recommend that all those who received the shot get a booster two months after.

The FDA has not recommended one specific booster shot over the others.
The FDA has not recommended one specific booster shot over the others.

A study published Thursday analyzed 620,000 military veterans who received the J&J vaccine this year and found that effective protection against the virus fell precipitously from 88 percent in March to just 3 percent in August.

On Thursday, the FDA panel also unanimously endorsed approval of a Moderna half-dose booster shot for at-risk Americans that received their second vaccination shot at least six months ago. “At-risk” would apply to adults 65 years and older as well as adults ages 18 and up who may have other health conditions, jobs, or living situations that put them that at greater risk of infection. The FDA authorized a Pfizer booster last month for the same at-risk groups.
 
Custom immune system wrecking ball, if you can't have Starbucks because of supply chain issues the least we can do is provide you with your own personalized HIV.

"A study published Thursday analyzed 620,000 military veterans who received the J&J vaccine this year and found that effective protection against the virus fell precipitously from 88 percent in March to just 3 percent in August."

I've had LSD trips that lasted longer.

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Ontarian here. I'm so fucking sick of vaccine passports. I'm supposed to enforce them at my job, but I've been slacking, and my boss is getting up my ass about it. I told him that I feel incredibly uncomfortable asking people for that information, and that it feels like an invasion of privacy, because, well, it is. He said, "yeah, but it's the law, so we have to do it." I don't give a shit if it's the law. Just because something is legal, does not mean that it's morally correct. I believe that people should have a fundamental right to privacy, especially regarding their medical information. The notion of vaccine passports flies in the face of that. No restaurant/bar/movie theatre should have any right to ask people for medical information, and decide whether or not they should be allowed to utilize their services. based on that information You either allow access to all, regardless of medical history, or you allow access to none. Makes me sick that we're supposed to discriminate based on this, and I'm expected to play gestapo. If Big Daddy Dougie wants gestapo so bad, then he should just hire actual gestapo, and quit expecting a poor bastard like me to do it. I actually have this theory though, that they're trying to make the shit jobs worse and worse to make people quit and suckle at the teet of the government. I don't know, guys. I'm just pissed off about all this, and any time I voice my concerns about the rights I feel are being violated I get hit with a, "but it's for public health!!!" At what point should public health take precedence over the rights of the individual? I don't know, I'm just some schmuck on the internet, but I feel as though a lot of personal rights have been violated in the name of "public health," over the past couple years, and even though it's all theatre, we're not allowed to question it. I'm just so tired. Sorry for the blog post.

tl;dr: fuck vaccine passports, and fuck Doug Ford
Ontario just fucking baffles me. It’s by far the worst place in Canada and Dough Boy has royally fucked over his base. I just don’t get it
 
Even if these vaccines worked, they'd only be valid for the "alpha" variant. The first time the virus mutates -- and that's what Coronaviruses DO -- they'd get right past the damned vax. Same thing as the cold, same thing as the flu; there are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of variants of COVID19 now. Hell even when "2 weeks to flatten the curve" was starting to be a thing they were already talking about variants A, B, and C, with variant A hitting the US on the East Coast, then Variant B beating the shit out of Italy and then hitting the US on the West Coast. And each of those had dozens of sub-variants already.

So the idea that they're 100% effective is a pipe dream, the fantasy of the "wuv da science" crowd who thinks they're magic potions to make you immune to being sick, or the Lightfoots of the world who took one look at the leadership and responsibility needed for responding to the vax and said "miss me with that sheeeet"

As far as I can tell the mandate is either to force us into accepting the pharmabro's little "hey lets just skip animal testing" thing on this tech they want, or it's pandering to the two groups above. You have to take the vax because it validates the "wuv da science" cult's worldview of themselves as the smartest people in the room, and it "removes" any risk you might pose which means the "leaders" like lightfoot don't have to take any responsibility and can get back to their actual job of farming money, influence, and votes.

And of course Biden is getting pressure from all of the above, so...
The mRNA vaccines were fabricated in a matter of days after the first Covid sample had undergone genomic sequencing. Even so Pfizer and Moderna have stated it will take months for them to fabricate an update to account for any new variants that avoid the current S-protein antibodies. How does this make any sense? It doesn't.

It's very likely that they just re-purposed an old Coronavirus vaccine they'd been working on before the Covid pandemic. Presented with a once in a century business opportunity they'd have been stupid not to. What we're seeing with all of the vaccines is akin to short acting therapeutic antibody treatment that gives some cross immunity but quickly wear off. It's also why the pharma companies have made no effort to update the vaccines to account for the Delta strain, the Covid vaccine was never encoded for Covid in the first place so no need for updates.
Custom immune system wrecking ball, if you can't have Starbucks because of supply chain issues the least we can do is provide you with your own personalized HIV.

"A study published Thursday analyzed 620,000 military veterans who received the J&J vaccine this year and found that effective protection against the virus fell precipitously from 88 percent in March to just 3 percent in August."

I've had LSD trips that lasted longer.

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When antibodies drop below 25% of original titre recipients become seronegative. Which means that a lot of the J&J jabbed would have zero protection from Covid 2-4 weeks after the injection.

How the fuck can anyone claim that a vaccine is 'good' when it only gives protection for 2 weeks or a month? WTF?
 
How the fuck can anyone claim that a vaccine is 'good' when it only gives protection for 2 weeks or a month? WTF?
How can anybody claim a vaccine is "good" when all they measure is antibody titres? How can they claim it's "good" when they don't even know if the antibodies they are looking for (that the mRNA vaccines are supposed to elicit) even "protect" or signal an effective immune response? Honestly, I'm unsure why there is much confidence that the mechanism by which the mRNA vaccines function would even elicit a "proper" anti-viral immune response. As far as I know (feel free to enlighten me) there is still no consensus on what a proper, effective immune response to SARS-CoV-2 looks like.

For all we've figured out about the immune system, there's a hell of a lot we haven't figured out, and a very poor understanding of how what we have discovered all fits/works together. Of course, in good scientific fashion, scientists will clamor and argue the importance of whatever aspect they specialize in while downplaying the importance of the others. Innate vs adaptive, humoral vs cellular; and likely we miss the bigger picture.
 
Our health minister in Germany said he wants the pandemic emergency situation to run out in November.
Not sure what it will change because he also said that mask mandates as well as access rules only for vaccinated/recovered/tested will still be in place.
 
I had to attend a conference this week. Immunologist I talked to was pretty chill, 80% of people were pretty much done with the pandemic shit. Admin isn't people, but they were going around making sure the mask goes over your nose. A lot of people are cowed into submission right now, mostly normies who believe in MSM and that the press doesn't have narratives they want to push.
 
Our health minister in Germany said he wants the pandemic emergency situation to run out in November.
Not sure what it will change because he also said that mask mandates as well as access rules only for vaccinated/recovered/tested will still be in place.
My Branch Covidian government has said that the emergency powers will end before Christmas. But not to worry they're bringing in new laws making things like mandates, vaccine passports and travel restrictions permanent.


Here's our glorious leader letting us know that the unvaccinated will be locked out of the economy well into 2022 and likely forever. Oh and if you don't get your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 10th booster that means you too.

No shit I'm looking at getting the fuck out of here ASAP. Dan Andrews is a fucking psychopath.
 
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