Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[Gorilla Tessellator]

Today, I spoke with a friend I didn't talk to for some time. I had an opportunity to try to understand how the people who swallowed this propaganda think.

She is vaxxed, her teenage son is vaxxed, her mother is lining up for a booster. Her husband already took a booster.
She thinks following way:

• people who are vaccinated spread COVID much less than unvaccinated,
• natural immunity wanes very fast 3-5 months (I told her that people who got SARS in 2003 still had antibodies, and about this famous Israeli study)
• without high vaccination rate we will never get rid of COVID, (I told her we will never get rid of COVID anyway)
• COVID is dangerous for anyone, because she heard of this one kid who had it as a two week flu, or this person who also was coughing for two weeks (this was in response to my argument that mostly old people get severely sick or die)

I told her I didn't take a vax because I don't need it. I didn't try hard to convince her or anything, so our conversation wasn't really hostile, but I wasn't surprised that she just believes whatever, because she was never the brightest bulb in a basket. I knew it would be futile to convince her that all of this is most likely a cover-up for soft demolition of hopelessly broken economy, I just corrected the most grave errors.

 

[Protistology]

Trust in the government has generally increased over this nonsense globally. My guess is it's polarized the entire world, where people who already didn't trust the government trust it somehow even less and people who were neutral/already trusting trust it even more. It's incredibly fucked that at most, maybe 15-20% of people in any given place are staunchly against this nonsense. A number like that is only useful if concentrated in one place (i.e. red states in the US or rural parts of purple states) or if that number has some serious force behind them and no one has decided to match the elite's accelerationism with their own accelerationism and string up some politicians and "public health" bureaucrats.

Enough murders and beheadings would be enough to make all of these measures toothless since no one from cops to businesses would enforce them because they want to go home to their families, just like how no one enforces the law on Muslims in Europe or blacks in some cities. This is not an encouragement to violence, it's just an explanation of how anarcho-tyranny works.

It's herd instinct. Bush's approval rating shot into the stars after 9/11.

 

[The Valeyard]

I am not from New Zealand, but fuck this horse-faced bitch.

 

[Meriasek]

I always thought it was more of a short-term/long-term distinction. Side effects occur as a result of taking the drug, especially short-term, while long-term effects represent unknown effects that may arise over a period of time that exceeds the original clinical trial period.

Yeah, makes sense. Either way, the current narrative here is that long-term effects can't happen because the mRNA is gone from the body after a very short time, and side effects are thus only occuring shortly after injection. At this point I really hope the vaccines really fuck with the immune system (even if that would hurt me, too), just to see all the whorenalists and assholes hung on the lampposts for that.

 

[Yuri_]

I am not from New Zealand, but fuck this horse-faced bitch.

"Sweatie... I know that we've been saying that classism, segregation and discrimination are heckin evil for 70+ years, but now that we're the ones in charge, we kinda wanna use those things against our enemies"

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

It's herd instinct. Bush's approval rating shot into the stars after 9/11.

That's because Bush looked and acted like a leader in the aftermath of that. I remember the only real criticism was that he kept reading "My Pet Goat" to those kids even after he was told what was happening, but that might've been a retrospective thing from like DailyKos-tier critics (in reality he probably made the right choice since otherwise they would've said "Bush caused little kids to panic on 9/11").

Yes, hardcore lockdowns is showing leadership and initiative, but every plan to exit lockdown ended up with constantly moving goalposts, contradicting information, and flagrant hypocrisy (i.e. Saint Floyd riots). On TV you have Fauci and other doctors constantly flip-flopping, even in the early days. The government constantly looks clueless on what they're actually fighting other than "some scary new disease." At least to me, "Saddam's got WMDs, let's invade Iraq" and "Mission Accomplished" seems on the surface a lot more plausible than the nonsense they've been spewing since last summer. It mystifies me how people didn't start realizing this whole thing was bullshit by the end of last summer.

People really must have the memory of goldfish, only explanation for why the propaganda machine is working so well.

 

[Mhallachd]

I am not from New Zealand, but fuck this horse-faced bitch.

In 2021 you can blurt something like that out nonchalantly and the majority of the populous will not bat an eye. The slippery slope in full effect.

The problem with us is that we try to fight something like that by bringing out the facts and pointing to historical examples. Nobody cares or listens. I think we need to dig deeper into the moral and spiritual side and call it what it is - pure evil.

Might be time to load up a boat and sail out of this accursed island.

 

[X Prime]

@Kramer on the phone Got a source on Carlin saying white people have no souls?

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Since covid during pregnancy has been brought up a few times, I'll share some of my favorite footnotes from the data:
Link to CDC page

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Kudos for using pregnant women instead of something like "persons with occupied uteruses", but let's check that footnote:

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If you dig a little deeper there is a bit more context:

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I would love to know exactly how many geriatric and prepubescent "pregnant" women were included in the data last year. The error is likely (hopefully) rare but I find it amazing that there is not a better way to verify pregnancy status and control for these errors.

But wait, there's more!

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They don't know if the pregnant 60 year old was in the hospital for covid or because they were giving birth.

while you did read it one way. the way it reads is that all cases could be shoved into "COVID-related" but they'd rather put that note there because there has been an increasing trend in hospital related birthing complications overall. (infections from c-sections, rapid loss of blood, etc.) Also because you presumbly dont know its literally near impossible to give birth at younger than 9 or older than 54. theres enough 3rd world rapes to prove this, and just from what i know about hospital data entry it was 100% typos, which would be rare. if the woman or couple wont tell you and its not written on paperwork the age you're supposed to put down is unknown.

plus while 1/6 seems high we don't know how different it good or bad it is until we see hospitalization rate for pregnant women in say 2019.

well, 45% Idiocracy, 45% Demolition Man..and 10% Tomorrow Never dies.

Remember..when we thought "Tommorow Never dies too Cartoony, Elliot Carver was completely unrealistic badguy and a Media Mogul would never lie about things."

Pepperidge Farm Remembers.

lots of dumbasses in these threads, TND was a Fox News CEO stand-in Idiocracy was about those stupid fucking anti-vaxxing conservative types destroying society, and 'the libs were the good guys actually' in Demo-man

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He might be the UK's primary source of soy. Few people in history have ever needed a brutal bullying and beating like he does.

he grew up in Suffolk during the height of Lad culture, he should be exhibit R in my thesis that exceesive bullying is what causes all this soy (case in point the Apu-cancelling indian getting bullied until he graduated college, while the alex jones loving flagarant-2 poo grew up in a post-columbine world, as did most of the dirtbag left)

@Kramer on the phone Got a source on Carlin saying white people have no souls?

 

[uncleShitHeel]

I am not from New Zealand, but fuck this horse-faced bitch.

Entirely agree. She is somehow worse than the last guy who spent a decade selling the country down the river and fondling the pony tails of our children.

"Sweatie... I know that we've been saying that classism, segregation and discrimination are heckin evil for 70+ years, but now that we're the ones in charge, we kinda wanna use those things against our enemies"

The last 4 years have pretty much killed any illusion I had in leftism at all, or that anything these fucks may spout being anything more than a complete and utter lie. The 9 years before that killed any faith I had in the right.

I fucking loathe politicians and the morons amongst the population who think they're great.

In 2021 you can blurt something like that out nonchalantly and the majority of the populous will not bat an eye. The slippery slope in full effect.

The problem with us is that we try to fight something like that by bringing out the facts and pointing to historical examples. Nobody cares or listens. I think we need to dig deeper into the moral and spiritual side and call it what it is - pure evil.

Might be time to load up a boat and sail out of this accursed island.

I know and work with fuckwits who will unironically cheer this on. People I once thought of intelligent and people who I once actually respected and thought had common sense or some sort of moral compass.

At least I no longer have to maintain the facade around people I now don't think of as people, but it is going to be interesting see how this plays out in the long term. Because if it all goes to shit in winter in the northern hemisphere, and I'm already hearing rumours out of the UK, then things are going to get really fucking squirelly.

 

[Willie Thrills]

Entirely agree. She is somehow worse than the last guy who spent a decade selling the country down the river and fondling the pony tails of our children.

The last 4 years have pretty much killed any illusion I had in leftism at all, or that anything these fucks may spout being anything more than a complete and utter lie. The 9 years before that killed any faith I had in the right.

I fucking loathe politicians and the morons amongst the population who think they're great.

I know and work with fuckwits who will unironically cheer this on. People I once thought of intelligent and people who I once actually respected and thought had common sense or some sort of moral compass.

At least I no longer have to maintain the facade around people I now don't think of as people, but it is going to be interesting see how this plays out in the long term. Because if it all goes to shit in winter in the northern hemisphere, and I'm already hearing rumours out of the UK, then things are going to get really fucking squirelly.

squirely lmao

 

[Yeeted Teet]

The Irish government promised that all remaining restrictions except masks in certain places would be lifted on October 22nd, who could have predicted that it didn't happen. Some rules were relaxed a bit, but the most worrying thing that I said was going to happen is that the vaccine certs have been extended until February (read: indefinitely, what the fuck is going to be different then) and new rules have been introduced where certain venues will be ticket only, bought at least 24 hours in advance, and the tickets will need to be scanned at the door along with your covid cert and photo ID.

'I don't know what the problem with the Vintners is': Taoiseach responds to criticism of nightclub rules

Responding to criticism leveled by the Licensed Vintners Association, Micheál Martin said the Government has been very supportive of the late night ...

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'I don't know what the problem with the Vintners is': Taoiseach responds to criticism of nightclub rules

Responding to criticism leveled by the Licensed Vintners Association, Micheál Martin said the Government has been very supportive of the late night ...

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This is bad, lads, they're really starting to close in on us. I read an article the other day that even slipped up and said that the main point of the covid certs was to encourage vaccine uptake but I didn't think to archive it and it seems to have been edited now.

There's another article about how covid certs are on track to become permanent like other temporary emergency measures that actually made it into a major newspaper and hasn't been taken down.

Daniel McConnell: Public will not stand for shifting the goalposts of Ireland's 'freedom day'

Better answers are required of our leaders, who are seeking to impose restrictions on our free movement until the spring

www.irishexaminer.com

Daniel McConnell: Public will not stand for shifting the goalposts of Ireland's 'freedom day'

Better answers are required of our leaders, who are seeking to impose restrictions on our free movement until the spring

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There is also a more sinister side to the continuation of the use of Covid certs.

There are many thousands of people, possibly as many as 700,000 — and far beyond the conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxers — who, for one reason or another, have not taken the vaccination jabs.

Many have been unable to do so for medical reasons, while others have genuine ethical dilemmas about the vaccine.

The discriminatory tone of the public discussion around this is somewhat galling.

The rather nasty vilification from on high of those not vaccinated has an authoritarian air to it.

They have basically been told take the jab and shut up. If you don’t take the jab, shut up and stay in your room. This is not acceptable in what should be a functioning democracy.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

The problem with us is that we try to fight something like that by bringing out the facts and pointing to historical examples. Nobody cares or listens. I think we need to dig deeper into the moral and spiritual side and call it what it is - pure evil.

Problem is, nobody cares or listens to that either. People cried "Nazi!" and "totalitarian!" for so long that when actual totalitarianism arose, no one cared. And it's too bad, since the neoliberal world order that promotes the scamdemic and "necessary restrictions" is at best on the moral level of Nazism or communism considering that it's an anti-human system intended to "optimize" society and bulldoze everything in it's way for the sake of maximum efficiency to make our leaders rich. At worst, it's possibly something far, far worse than anything that's ever existed that makes the life of a North Korean gulag inmate look utopian.

Oh, it's evil, it's pure fucking evil.

The last 4 years have pretty much killed any illusion I had in leftism at all, or that anything these fucks may spout being anything more than a complete and utter lie. The 9 years before that killed any faith I had in the right.

I'm just glad I got redpilled on how fucked the left was with the three years of TDS antics that was 2016-19. Instead of treating Trump as a moment to take a look at themselves and see what was wrong, they went batshit insane and doubled down on it all.

Had I maintained my formerly more progressive views (because I genuinely believed leftism was the path to freedom for everyone, not just the elite), I'd have been in for the biggest shock of my life in 2020. Lockdowns and mask mandates based on piss poor scientific are anathema to everything I believe in and support. But it just confirmed what I'd increasingly known--the left simply assimilated themselves into the elite over the course of the 20th century and eventually didn't even need to be left-wing anymore and eventually sold whatever soul they had left to create the neoliberal world order.

At least I no longer have to maintain the facade around people I now don't think of as people, but it is going to be interesting see how this plays out in the long term. Because if it all goes to shit in winter in the northern hemisphere, and I'm already hearing rumours out of the UK, then things are going to get really fucking squirelly.

If you thought last winter was bad, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

[Yuri_]

Enough murders and beheadings would be enough to make all of these measures toothless since no one from cops to businesses would enforce them because they want to go home to their families, just like how no one enforces the law on Muslims in Europe or blacks in some cities.

Like many others, I had a negative view of muslims in the years after 9/11, as well as with all the problems they've caused in europe in recent years, but admittedly I've gained some respect for them after all this corona shit + the afghanistan memery. Unlike my group, they're definitely not an easy bunch to bully.

Somewhere along the line, whites just switched off and became a bunch of passive npcs that will take all abuse like a beaten housewife. I sense that western politicians + their globalistic handlers have realized this in the past decade (particularly the last two years) and are going full steam ahead with their goals without worrying about any backlash.

Spoiler: Somewhat relevant solzhenitsyn quote

The last 4 years have pretty much killed any illusion I had in leftism at all, or that anything these fucks may spout being anything more than a complete and utter lie. The 9 years before that killed any faith I had in the right.

I fucking loathe politicians and the morons amongst the population who think they're great

In recent years, I've pondered if leftism was ever truly a thing, or if it was just a bunch of poorfags, weirdos and psychopaths that wanted to use it as a vehicle to overthrow all the old monarchies + governments that were ruling over them.

 

[talk sh1t]

I guess that UK school director have some good friends upstairs, he isn't fired.....yet after he said this fucking comment about the kids who have side effects.

WOW! UK School Director Admits on National TV that 30 Kids Are Out with COVID and 14 Are Out with Vaccine Side Effects -- WTH?

This segment aired on SKY News this week on the latest COVID outbreak in England. Academy Principal Tarun Kapur joined SKY to discuss the current situation at the Manchester schools. Kapur told SKY News that the people are glad to wear masks because it brings “a sense of security” to the staff...

www.thegatewaypundit.com

I think with "vaccine side effects" he means that one/two day bout of fever many people report having the day after they got their shot. I doubt it's heart-related stuff.

 

[Übertroon]

In recent years, I've pondered if leftism was ever truly a thing, or if it was just a bunch of poorfags, weirdos and psychopaths that wanted to use it as a vehicle to overthrow all the old monarchies + governments that were ruling over them.

When the corner stone of your ideology is the belief that hierarchies are unnatural I'm afraid your corner stone is make belief

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

@Kramer on the phone Got a source on Carlin saying white people have no souls?

I imagine he might have said something like that in the 60s about how whites can't dance or some shit.

 

[borsabil]

I think with "vaccine side effects" he means that one/two day bout of fever many people report having the day after they got their shot. I doubt it's heart-related stuff.

Yes I remember getting my childhood jabs I needed to take a week of school to recover. This is all perfectly normal and to be expected with vaccines. Besides myocarditis is a nothing burger in children. I still remember when my kids got the MMR and had to go to a CCU for monitoring for a few days, hasn't effected them one bit. Severe heart inflammation is just something kids shake off. It's much better than catching Covid which is killing literally millions of kids every day.

The Irish government promised that all remaining restrictions except masks in certain places would be lifted on October 22nd, who could have predicted that it didn't happen. Some rules were relaxed a bit, but the most worrying thing that I said was going to happen is that the vaccine certs have been extended until February (read: indefinitely, what the fuck is going to be different then) and new rules have been introduced where certain venues will be ticket only, bought at least 24 hours in advance, and the tickets will need to be scanned at the door along with your covid cert and photo ID.

'I don't know what the problem with the Vintners is': Taoiseach responds to criticism of nightclub rules

Responding to criticism leveled by the Licensed Vintners Association, Micheál Martin said the Government has been very supportive of the late night ...

www.irishexaminer.com

'I don't know what the problem with the Vintners is': Taoiseach responds to criticism of nightclub rules

Responding to criticism leveled by the Licensed Vintners Association, Micheál Martin said the Government has been very supportive of the late night ...

web.archive.org

This is bad, lads, they're really starting to close in on us. I read an article the other day that even slipped up and said that the main point of the covid certs was to encourage vaccine uptake but I didn't think to archive it and it seems to have been edited now.

There's another article about how covid certs are on track to become permanent like other temporary emergency measures that actually made it into a major newspaper and hasn't been taken down.

Daniel McConnell: Public will not stand for shifting the goalposts of Ireland's 'freedom day'

Better answers are required of our leaders, who are seeking to impose restrictions on our free movement until the spring

www.irishexaminer.com

Daniel McConnell: Public will not stand for shifting the goalposts of Ireland's 'freedom day'

Better answers are required of our leaders, who are seeking to impose restrictions on our free movement until the spring

web.archive.org

A combination of confluent interests are in play. Big pharma are salivating over the prospect of tens of billions in annual revenue from government mandated subscription based vaccinations. It won't be limited to Covid, Moderna alone is working on flu, RSV, Cytomegalovirus, Metapneumovirus and Herpes mRNA vaccines. What we have always considered to be annoying nuisance illnesses will be mandated in the childhood vaccination schedule and likely extended to adults. You will have to consent to them to maintain a valid vaccination certificate. I mean do you want to kill babies and grandma?

Multinational corporations, excluding pharmaceuticals, are all on board as well. Their dream is to have total access to their employees health data, health insurance and sick leave costs them countless billions annually, The Rubicon has been crossed in this respect. The ages old principle that no one can force you to accept a medical treatment is now dead in the water. mRNA 'vaccines' are obviously not vaccines in any true sense, they're preventative medical treatments that require a lifetime of constant re-dosing to maintain their effectiveness. We have accepted that the government has the right to force individuals to take medicines and employers have the right to fire you if you refuse.

Western governments have been slowly pushing a Chinese style social credit system for years. In cahoots with corporations they've been demanding censorship of social media, data tracking monitored by intelligence agencies/police and the construction of security state infrastructure, What they've lacked up until now is an enforcement mechanism to ensure public compliance which the vaccine passports now facilitate. Next will be contactless checking technology mandated for all public venues and businesses. No need for minimum wage service workers to scan your papers, you walk into a shop or your work place your ID will automatically validate your vaccination and health status via a centralised server. You don't lodge your taxes on time, you forget to pay the phone bill, you say something a bit off about the Prime Minister on facebook? Sorry citizen your privileges have been limited due to the risk you present to public health.

The debt based economic model is falling apart at the seams and an economic depression is baked in from here. Historically bank runs have been the greatest threats to government power. You want to start a revolution freeze people's bank accounts and throw them out of work. They know what's coming down the pipe and they're locking down to ride out the storm. Their minds are on what will come after, something akin to Bladerunner 2049 crossed with the Hunger Games.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

The Irish government promised that all remaining restrictions except masks in certain places would be lifted on October 22nd, who could have predicted that it didn't happen.

Meanwhile, in the north, some politicians are having a fit because the health committee allowed pubs and nightclubs to go on ahead without the passport shite and not needing to wear masks. I told one poster before that unlike most places in the world, where I am, it's not a larp when the politicians get threatened with a good time, and they've been complaining a lot about being threatened with good times throughout this whole ordeal.

I love my retarded murdering psychopaths.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

I think with "vaccine side effects" he means that one/two day bout of fever many people report having the day after they got their shot. I doubt it's heart-related stuff.

I guess he's lucky then he didn't meet that mother and her kid who have other side effects.

Concerned Mother Wants to Air TV Ad on Pfizer's Dangerous Vaccine After Daughter Is Severely and Permanently Damaged -- But Comcast Refuses Ad at Last Minute

13-year-old Maddie de Garay volunteered for the Pfizer vaccine clinical trials. According to her parents, she volunteered to help, but did not expect that she would suffer significant Pfizer vaccine-related injuries. Maddie’s mother wants to warn other parents that the COVID vaccine is not safe...

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13-year-old Maddie de Garay volunteered for the Pfizer vaccine clinical trials. According to her parents, she volunteered to help, but did not expect that she would suffer significant Pfizer vaccine-related injuries.

Maddie’s mother wants to warn other parents that the COVID vaccine is not safe.
But Comcast pulled the mother’s ad telling Maddie’s story.

Comcast is complicit in the deadly conspiracy.

https://twitter.com/CovidMemo/status/1452247431530299400

And now in areas who close to be 100% vaccinated, some folks have to find new excuses for blaming when they ran out of unvaccinated people.

As vaccination rates climb near 100% in some areas, the problem is finding people to blame for continuing COVID cases

Scapegoats are a necessity for tyrants because somebody has to take the blame for their failures. That's one of several reasons to be uneasy about the campaign by Joe Biden, in concert with most elements of the progressive establishmen...

www.americanthinker.com

October 25, 2021

As vaccination rates climb near 100% in some areas, the problem is finding people to blame for continuing Covid cases​

By Thomas Lifson

Scapegoats are a necessity for tyrants, because somebody has to take the blame for their failures. That’s one of several reasons to be uneasy about the campaign by Joe Biden, in concert with most elements of the progressive establishment, to persecute those who resist vaccine mandates, falsely claiming, as Biden did in his CNN townhall last week, that the unvaccinated are responsible for killing the vaccinated.
But what happens when the bullies get their way and practically everyone is vaccinated, yet Covid cases continue to rage?
Jack Cashill, writing in the American Spectator:

In the Republic of Ireland, however, health officials are running out of people to blame. This has becoming embarrassingly obvious in County Waterford. As reported in the Irish Times, the nation’s establishment newspaper, two of the three most COVID-infected electoral areas in Ireland are located in the county “with the highest rate of vaccination in the country.” In Waterford, a remarkable 99.7 percent of adults over the age of 18 is fully vaccinated. (snip)
According to data published on October 21, Waterford City South has the nation’s highest 14-day incidence rate at 1,486 cases per 100,000 and Tramore-Waterford City West has the third highest at 1,122 cases per 100,000. This is despite internal travel bans and the county’s more than 90 percent vaccination rate.
Although Waterford is running three times the rate of the nation writ large, Ireland as a whole is not faring particularly well, especially given its draconian restrictions. In the seven days preceding October 21, Ireland reported 2,026 new cases. To put that number in perspective, wide-open Florida had 2,262 cases during that same period with a population more than four times greater than the Irish Republic’s.