US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[make_it_so]

Globalism doesn't really work without China on board, and they aren't. China is going full national socialist, and that means that the globalists have to get back on the West's shit in order to have any hope for the future. The idea of creating an out and open version of the CCP in the west is falling apart. The population of the USA is becoming more and more ungovernable, and the China model that they were selling all the celebrities on is not looking so pretty now.

After outsourcing so many jobs and trying to radically transform Western civil society for the sake of creating a CCP-lite corporatocracy, they're not going to receive a very warm welcome. Or at least, I'd hope they wouldn't.

 

[RumblyTumbly]

It may sound strange, but them pulling this shit is exactly what we want.

Keep voting and keep forcing them to keep cheating.

Eventually, it will get to a point where they can't cover it up and hide it anymore.

 

[GuntPunt]

Did Jack Cittarelli even consneed yet in NJ or is he going all in on lawyering up?

 

[Potatoherder]

Keep voting and keep forcing them to keep cheating.

Eventually, it will get to a point where they can't cover it up and hide it anymore.

The second and key part to that is you need to have people willing to actually fight when shit is found. They seemed to be on the ball in VA and it looks like NJ has some support so that is a welcomed change from 2020.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

The one thing I do think the democrats did was make a back up plan. All they have to do is make a secondary party of sorts play the "pseudo centrist" game of blaming both parties and propose the new party (mainly those who are leftwing faithful) and try again. It sounds silly, but I could see it pulling the wool over most normies eyes who are getting tired of politics in general and blame both the left (justifiably) ad the right (ignorantly) for the whole countries ills over time. Now the only question I have is if they were this smart to use the back up options they have, and I hope not because I could see such an attempt actually bearing fruit and fooling quite a few people. "They're not the democrats, they're the X's and both right wing and left wing are responsible for this!" being shouted by the masses as it comes to a head. --- > It's also no coincidence this became a common "centrist" talking point for a few years now...

The only other possibility I see for the left is them pushing harder to conceal some brainwashing of the youth to set up a down the line plan that they hope provides an opportunity to stand back up from this failure and a second chance/grace possibly. They might push harder even if it exposes them hoping to set up a child-chain to win 20-30 years down the road if they're successful enough. This isn't very likely though and can easily fail if a few things go wrong.

All in all it should be a disaster for them, but if the republicans get too complacent it still provides means of opportunity for the left, and that's where I think many fear. It's not a guarantee but a potential outcome if the right wing doesn't shape its ass up and quash any potential silver linings for them. They themselves have quite a few issues to attempt such a thing and for the most part they should be foiled, but I won't count my chickens before they hatch.

1) The Libertarian Party, as it currently exists, is the Dem Lite pseudo-centrist party. It's not doing too well as the kind of people that the LP attracts are lolbertarians and thus, doesn't attract Business Dems or Establishment either. Muh private company rhetoric only goes so far until a company performs some kind of malfeasance like shadow banning or poorly tested vaccines. Trying to attract a constituency of Tim Pools is doomed to failure because their fair-weather nature is the antithesis of activism.

2) Brainwashing is CRT, which is what they've been doing to the Black and LGBT community for decades. It's also tied into the trust in public education. It's actually the more successful strategy they have since the reason why Youngkin won was because the School Board was exceptional when it came to tranny rape. If they hadn't arrested that father, Youngkin probably would have lost. CRT can be dialed down to what it was during the 90s and 00s where normies don't care to look or understand how pernicious it is. Enlightened centrists will then praise the diversity and insist again how CRT is true Liberalism.

 

[Trianon]

It's frankly insane how much of a change of pace just one year as brought. This time last year we were all dooming about how America would never have a fair election again, but it really seems like the facade is falling down on the Democrats and revealing that not only are they not all-powerful, their power structure has actually completely rotted from the inside and is practically on the verge of collapse. The Democrats in Current Year(tm) remind me of the pre-2016 Republicans, where it really seemed like there was no future for them down the path they were currently heading. For the Republicans, Donald Trump showed that there was a new way forward for the party (whether corpo cuckservatives want to take it is a whole other matter). For the Democrats, I feel like a "radical centrist" movement is all but inevitable in the near future, as it becomes more and more clear to them (and even to the progs) that unrestrained progressivism is a platform that's completely cancerous to the average American.

Yes, it's good to see tangible change, even if you think it's a lateral move until proven otherwise! I think our job now is to push and push to see if Dems can run themselves into Labour-like defeats in the coming years. And our more important job is to make sure we support candidates that will be prepared to take advantage of any Dem weakness with offensive conservatism. The biggest takeaway from the Virginia election is that conservatives and not-insane liberals learned to organize. The grassroots cons are just building their own organizations and implementing long-term strategies to get their message out and their candidates elected and their elections fortified. This is the way.

All those moving parts might not be obvious if you're looking at it from a national perspective, but from inside the state, it's very obvious that the GOP base is full of energy to clean shit out. And they've been acting on that.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

1) The Libertarian Party, as it currently exists, is the Dem Lite pseudo-centrist party. It's not doing too well as the kind of people that the LP attracts are lolbertarians and thus, doesn't attract Business Dems or Establishment either. Muh private company rhetoric only goes so far until a company performs some kind of malfeasance like shadow banning or poorly tested vaccines. Trying to attract a constituency of Tim Pools is doomed to failure because their fair-weather nature is the antithesis of activism.

2) Brainwashing is CRT, which is what they've been doing to the Black and LGBT community for decades. It's also tied into the trust in public education. It's actually the more successful strategy they have since the reason why Youngkin won was because the School Board was exceptional when it came to tranny rape. If they hadn't arrested that father, Youngkin probably would have lost. CRT can be dialed down to what it was during the 90s and 00s where normies don't care to look or understand how pernicious it is. Enlightened centrists will then praise the diversity and insist again how CRT is true Liberalism.

I don't disagree with your notion that the Libertarian party is a joke. However, if the democrat party fades into obscurity because of its own stupidity and actions something will fill the vacuum of a second party. It can't be the democrat party itself IF it gets that damaged. That's just how politics and or how most political systems work in such instances. Don't know how they'd rebrand without compromising their positions but then again they fooled America for many years back when people accused them of being socialist and communist and came out recently basically admitting it.

There's also been other forms of brainwashing done over the years, most of it doesn't have any specific umbrella term, and some are so ingrained in American society it's caused a lot of issues we see in the US today, it'd be very easy to look for traction in something similar. Honestly I hope you're wrong about them dialing it down to hide under the radar, because otherwise we really are just pulling a cycle of repeating this over and over again years from now. With many children becoming unwitting victims until they either succeed or those of us against it fail.

 

[Vivec]

My super lib, Democratic volunteering younger sister thinks Biden's approval is 25% and that he can't sit down for 5 minutes without falling asleep. What does this mean?

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

My super lib, Democratic volunteering younger sister thinks Biden's approval is 25% and that he can't sit down for 5 minutes without falling asleep. What does this mean?

That you have to sacrifice her to Moloch to appease the volcano gods.

 

[Vivec]

That you have to sacrifice her to Moloch to appease the volcano gods.

If we could convince her it'd help Bernie win the presidency she might just volunteer.

 

[Individualism Incarnate]

To not do what keeps being done over and over again? To stop masturbating over the left getting a little egg on their face and then assuming that just because the electoral opposition won that it's guaranteed that the script has been flipped. My posts weren't about trying to get people to go a "third way" as some retards have been alluding. It's been to throw some cold water over the boiling over euphoria of the results and not fall into the usual trap the right falls into. People just get really really mad when you interrupt their party.

Lot of words to say nothing.

 

[Compositesludge]

The Progressives in their current incarnation are political poison. While they have rabid support in their base, this base is incredibly small - just really good at being loud, their actual policies are wildly unpopular, and while they pretend otherwise, they fucking know it. This actually is responsible for a lot of their behavior that you can see in action: Aggressive narrative control, relying on their base to browbeat people with the message, and using agitators to justify getting what they want when they can't get a mandate (which is most of the time). The modern Progressives have no respect for the political process; they are as despicable in victory as they are vitriolic in defeat. If they get what they want, it's good, no matter how many people suffer along the way and how hard.

The only place Progressives can really dominate politically are in the purest of blue-state strongholds (and even there, they often wind up being fucking hated when their policies result in disaster). Red states will flat-out not take them, and even blue states familiar with their policies resoundingly hate them.

Going full Prog would basically doom the party to doing about as well as the Greens.

I'd love to write about my own past experiences with progressives and their campaigns someday. I just need to commit some time to thinking about how to do it without instantly doxing myself. It was a weird time in my life, and it's a story that I'd want to do justice to if I told it!

 

[Oats12345]

I wonder what based donut guy is thinking right now. (For that matter, his opponent). I cannot imagine being so hated that people would literally spite vote some truck driver who spent almost nothing on his campaign and half on it on donuts.

He should celebrate with more donuts. It worked out for him.

He brought more donuts and got coffee with it as well. Man people must really thank you suck to vote you out for a guy who only spent 200 on his campaign.

I still can't imagine what went through his mind when he decided to say "Hell yes, I'm going to take your guns". That pissed of Democrats down here and pretty much precludes him from statewide office.



If this supply chain thing keeps going south, I think Mayor Pete may be done. The whole "I'm taking paternity leave" while the supply chain crumbles isn't going to look good if shelves start getting emptier.

Running Pete's a bad idea. The dumbest things he other did on his campaign was stop acting like a moderate and insulting Christians.

they're not surprised.


I do wonder if, in the long run, it would have been better for them to lose the 2020 election. it seems increasingly like they had the external problem (trump) and the internal problem (party fracturing), and they need a reason to split the party, cut out the bad part, and re-establish themselves. But to do that, they need to lose. Rather than dealing with the fracture, they just fixated on trump to try and unify people. but in the long run, that's made every single politically-minded citygoer open and very combative.

They weren't be in the mess their in if they hadn't won 2020.

Realistically it would mean a shift toward the center, nominate a nice somewhat popular blue Governor of a red state who has proven that they can win with out the id pol lefty nonsense. John Bel Edwards of Louisiana would be a good choice, especially if he wins re-election in 2023. They won't do that of course, they will nominate some loony whose answer to every problem is SOCIALISM ME HARDER DADDY!! or another worn out uninspired swamp creature fossil pounding on death's door. To run successfully as a dem for the brass ring in 2024 you really need a Governor with a good record, so they can run on their accomplishments, so as to separate themselves from Biden.

I find certain places you would need to run a central Republican in like New Jersey. Not too Trump, but not too Rino. If that makes any since.

Not sure if anyone had posted but 90% reporting on day two of counting and Murphy is ahead by 30,000 votes. I saw somebody on Twitter claim 40k votes all for Murphy showed up in Bergen after it was already 100% reporting.

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I legit thought Virginia would be the state we would see legal battles in. Who knew it would be New Jersey all along. Talk about unexpected week.

I figure that whatever Dems do it will be at least 2028 before they are competitive again (outside their strongholds). Whether it is because they are splitting up or simply too much in fighting to actually get the electorate out to vote remains to be seen.

Dems actively fought against the rising tide of populism that is spreading throughout the country. Trump rode the wave while Dems resisted the sea change. 2016 was when they should have accepted populism and instead will likely spend a decade out in the wilderness searching for themselves now.

But yes, losing the 2020 election would have been better. None of these problems that Biden is facing are "surprises." They more or less pushed Trump out of the way of a speeding train and got run over.

Yes. I know they didn't really have a choice in the matter because of deals that had been signed and oaths sworn but if Dems didn't put in a force majeure clause into the contracts that is their own damn fault.

I think the problem is. Dems throw almost everyone with a name recognition in the primary and they all sucked. To the point they had noting left was a already decaying Biden.

I mean who is there left. I remmber there were talks about Cuomo running in the future. But that's dead now.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

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This is a really weird thing to do when mail in votes are accepted and counted up until the eighth as long as they were postmarked on election day. I guess the USPS wouldn't play ball but even considering that, mail in votes would have likely pushed Murphy to a slight edge over Jack. No idea why they would do such an obvious drop.

 

[Gehenna]

This is a really weird thing to do when mail in votes are accepted and counted up until the eighth as long as they were postmarked on election day. I guess the USPS wouldn't play ball but even considering that, mail in votes would have likely pushed Murphy to a slight edge over Jack. No idea why they would do such an obvious drop.

The same reason they went nuts in 2020, panic. NJ was supposed to be safe, Virginia was the one in play. They were prepping for that, not NJ.

 

[Oats12345]

The same reason they went nuts in 2020, panic. NJ was supposed to be safe, Virginia was the one in play. They were prepping for that, not NJ.

I think many people thought that not just the dems.

 

[Gehenna]

I think many people thought that not just the dems.

Considering I was predicting a narrow loss in Virginia... yes! Basically everyone I know, know of, etc was predicting a narrow loss. Caught everyone off guard.

 

[CaesarCzech]

Please don't lecture me on the public school system. I took them to administrative hearings every chance I got, because I learned I had to. They fought back, and viciously, in court, but they lost, and lost big, and suddenly all our problems disappeared.

You have to believe in what your are fighting for and nothing, absolutely nothing, is more important than your child. It is a war, and while it shouldn't be, you have to treat it as one, and hold them accountable for everything, from the the punch a nigger crackbaby gave your child because the teacher was too busy tweeting or the shitty teachers who are phoning it in, because every single battle counts until you win the war, and then you have to keep overwatch like a hawk so they don't think trying for a rematch is a good idea.

If even one third of the parents believed as I do the AFT would be in shambles. But they don't, and they cry its all too much and that teachers are pitbulls with flowers in their hair. Bitch, I was a Rottweiler when it came to my kid and I never hid it, and I fought to the death, and I won.

Edit: My child is a successful adult now and it was totes worth it, and I'd do it again except I'd be more aggressive, if I could.

Im kinda afraid of your teeth near my throat to be honest

 

[Getting tard comed]

Any update on Jersey?

 

[JohnDoe]

From a few standpoints. The one I focus on is that the win in Virginia proves that there is a limit to the cheating, but them stealing NJ means that no one gets lax or rests on their laurels. It's the best of both worlds, considering we were going in expecting a double loss.

It will give some experience to the other part of the anti-fortification systems, at least. The very proactive Lawsuit/Committee/Poll Watcher side got a good test run in VA, now the reactive Contest Counting apparatus gets to be put through the paces. Either they manage to force a win in NJ (my sides!) and humiliate the Dems further, or they at least run up the blue costs and maybe produce some useful dirt to use later. Either way, a lot of valuable experience will be gained for future elections.