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Interesting name for a pajeet

On gavin: Robert malone

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I'm having a hard time believing this. Not because of the severe adverse reaction, that's just obvious if you've been paying attention to what this poison does to the body. No the surprising thing to me is that he didn't just get a photo-op saline injection, he actually got the clot shot. It makes me wonder if other government and public officials really did get the juice.
 
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The US, on average, adds around 2 million people per year to it's worker pool. A combination of natural growth in the native population and immigration.

Note that labor force participation is static but the gross number (total employed/unemployed) is only slightly increasing, a substantial number of people seem to have just vanished.


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The first column is October 2020 the last October 2021. These are gross unadjusted numbers from the household survey.

The civilian labor force has grown by just under 1 million, way below the historical average. In comparison the annualised increase for 2018 was 2.5 million.

Where have all these people gone?

There are only a few ways for adults not to be included in the count. Go to prison, go to a nursing home (become institutionalised), leave the country for good or die.

I can tell you for sure that this phenomena is not limited to the US. There are massive labor shortages everywhere. Even in parts of my country, that have never suffered a Covid outbreak, are reporting sudden and unexpected dislocations in the labor market.

Is it the vaccines? I don't know. I doubt a million or so people dying could be covered up so more likely it's a combination of a lot of factors. But it's unprecedented and the fact almost no one is discussing it is definitely strange.
i think its the boomer-pocyplse people were warning about for the last decade. i personally know like a half dozen that retired because of COVID, which therefore means 6 people being promoted out of a lower job, and while they could be filled the requirements by hr keep people out of it, plus they just force the work on the other employees, on the flip side i also know a shitload of people in their 30s that have never worked too. so those 6 jobs that need filled won't. i legit have retired boomers asking me questions about how to apply for jobs because they're tired of their kids who graduated college in the obama administration just hanging out playing vidya all day. beyond that i bet that definition of participation rate is probably being rigged, a guy that drives for uber once a month is counted just as much as a guy with 3-40 hour a week jobs, so the effective amount of FTE jobs being done is probably way less. Beyond that the idea of being forced to work those burger flipping jobs that their parents promised they wouldn't have to if they went to college is probably souring a lot of people off of working.
From what I’ve been hearing around town, the nurses all transitioned to non-hospital related jobs due to burnout.

As far as the non-nursing jobs, there’s a steady stream of people begging for work but they want upper level jobs, with specific qualifications, not part time or entry level work. Have companies truncated those sort of positions to save costs?

I’ve also heard the following theories:
- All the people who would have filled those jobs died of Covid
- People relocated to cheeper parts of the country and moved back in with their parents (so maybe they’re not working right now?)
- Who is watching the kids that are constantly out of school after Covid exposure? Have moms left the workforce to do this?
- A bunch of the last 10 years worth of male college grads are NEETS and aren’t getting jobs
- Are the boomers retiring?
same here, again makes sense. day care costs and nanny costs are skyrocketing. so it doesn't make sense to pay someone $20/hr to watch your kids, unless you're making $30/hr and even then you're not adding in commute and food costs. boomers retiring because they're just fed up with the restrictions and hoops, neets and people relocating after the summer of george. Beyond that how many people ended up getting their jobs cut because of covid only to find something more stable/better. you go from working at a restaurant to a legit white collar job, especially when rumors of restrictions keep popping up, going back would be insane right now
One of the things americans forget when you have 15 per cent foreign born population or born to immigrant parents is double citizenship also these families tend to have properties in their native countries. If the inflation plus mask insanity plus vaccines that everyone talking about in your community are dangerous you would pack bags and wait til it blow over

Elites forget their imported nigger cattle is not the same as their domestic nigger cattle.

Similar shit happened in Vietnam on much larger and more drastic scale in ho chi min they literally put people in open air camps in fucking tents for months the minute they loosen the restrictions every person who had family property in the country pack up and left. They lost something like 50 per cent of the sweatshop workforce and had to beg people to come back.
NGL i've noticed this too. my ancestors escaped russia around the revolution and i have a strong inate feeling that i should flee here too, and if i'm feeling like that i bet people who's family came here much later feel the same. If i was a well to-do immigrant i would have left, especially with how the news shows it being de facto legal to assault you and the restrictions. Asia basically is in a much better shape than the US the last 18 months anyways, plus the inflation means the perks of busting your ass in the US are going to be less and less,
Rumor gavin newsome is Paralyzed from GBS

A rare and extremely painful complication

He hasnt been seen in weeks so big news if its true. Something has happened to him the media wont say.
I mean just from a non-political stand point. if you had to guess, a gen-X fitness obsessed guy would be able to shake off any illness much better than a fat fast food eating 75 year old. and Trump barely was in the hospital for more than 3 days, and its not like he got better medicial care, so chances are its the remedy.

Plus just in general i know a lot of people in his sphere already have auto-immune disorders, so injecting this would be like forcing someone with a peanut allergy to eat an entire jar to cure the flu. Also unlike Joe Biden they can't really make shit up about why this guy is suddenly near death, its a lot easier to hide a disability in someone almost 80 than a guy who was as healthy as tom cruise. plus theres the whole "if it was something else and known why didn't he just step down?" especially because the recall election meant he could have easily just stepped down and side step the entire scenario.

Honestly their best play would be to just say he's had it for a long time now but until COVID he never bothered going to the doctor for the last couple decades, they could blame it on masculinity, "i never get sick, i eat right and work out, i don't need a psychical" then say once he went to the doctor for the shot he discovered a lot of other problems he was having and realized he had an auto immune. people dont seem to realize how absurdly high the amount of people with those are where he lives, i'd say its the biggest minority for the upper class, even beating out jews.
I'm having a hard time believing this. Not because of the severe adverse reaction, that's just obvious if you've been paying attention to what this poison does to the body. No the surprising thing to me is that he didn't just get a photo-op saline injection, he actually got the clot shot. It makes me wonder if other government and public officials really did get the juice.
i think its a combination of the media propoganda and the counter-media catching these politicans faking it. So naturally it would be the media savvy thing to get the shot, any PR person worth their shit would tell them that. literally the only reason you wouldn't argue for the vaxx is if you were in the know, and psaki is probably low enough on the totem pole that she wouldnt have been told, people think because they're on the news for a year or two that press secretary is a major player, but its a pretty low level job, you don't really move on to better things, you just leave washington and work as the boss of whoever runs the twitter account for mcdonalds or whatever.

Gavin would be a bit of a surprise, but it could be payback for all the shit happening in california, plus nancy (his aunt-in-law) is clearly expecting a punishment too for a year of inaction, those rumors of her stepping down in 2022 signal something bad.
 
This is another rumor I heard, that a lot of people with dual citizenship up and left the US and Canada along with their spouses and children when the mandates started coming in.

Would need a corresponding immigration statistic from the other countries if it were true, though I think it would be hard to find.
Could this be part of where Karl Denninger's missing million went? Those people who have supposedly disappeared from the labor force statistics with no good explanation?
 
Rumor was that the Chi Omega initiation ceremony included having the girls lie naked in a coffin. Not sure how true that is, but that's what everyone thought happened. Doesn't skull and bones do something similar?

Went to visit my elderly parents today. My dad was going on about me getting the booster shot (I already caved and got double jabbed). I told him that I wasn't going to get it. He said it was "just a half dose of the regular shot". I told him that my second shot was horrible (I had some heart racing and palpitations in addition to the chills, fever, and general horribleness. Ended up going to the doctor because the heart stuff was pretty uncomfortable and kind of scary) and I didn't want to go through that again. I told him Israel is on it's 2nd booster already and I wasn't going to sign up for taking shots every 3 months.

He finally said that I'll end up losing immunity and then I won't be able to come over and visit anymore. So, I asked him if I would have to show my vaccine card to get into his house and he said "maybe". So I said, I'll just teach you guys how to use Zoom and we can have online meetings.

So, if you are thinking about getting a shot to shut people up -- don't. It will never be enough. And they will never, ever respect your right to make your own medical decisions. He's going to get the cheap nursing home one day if he pushes me too far.
 
Already seeing tons of pictures of little kids with their baby shark bandaids on after getting the jabs... this is the end isn't it folks? There's no way we can go back from this. We've sold our children. For a virus that effects them as much as a common cold. Some parents are so excited they are actually crying at the appointments.

Meanwhile I'll just be over here being a filthy unvaxxed, showing up to get my weekly swab just to keep my job. The future looks pretty grim though. I wish I was of retirement age so I could at least not have to worry about the job aspect.
 
@Drain Todger any tips on a vax detox regiment? Currently I’m doing a routine of Zinc, NCD2 and Ivermectin, but I’ve heard the most effective routine is Vitamin C, Vitamin D-3, Zinc and Quercetin. Any additions or tips would be much appreciated, godspeed to you.
To be honest, I have no idea what detoxes the vaccine. There's no solid data on any of it. That said, given that it appears to cause a mini-COVID episode of its own in a lot of cases, doing the same supplement routine for COVID-19 wouldn't hurt. Vitamin A, B6, B12, C, D, E, Zinc, Quercetin, Resveratrol, Curcumin, NAC, Selenium, Dietary Nitrate, etc.
 
To be honest, I have no idea what detoxes the vaccine. There's no solid data on any of it. That said, given that it appears to cause a mini-COVID episode of its own in a lot of cases, doing the same supplement routine for COVID-19 wouldn't hurt. Vitamin A, B6, B12, C, D, E, Zinc, Quercetin, Resveratrol, Curcumin, NAC, Selenium, Dietary Nitrate, etc.
Thank you mate, since the vaccine produces the spike protein and fucks your system up with it I figure it’s removed similarly to how you’d fight the virus, maybe more vigorously. I’ve been having an annoying cold recently thats been weighing on me as I’ve been detoxing, so I want to see what happens with this. Detoxing the vaccine should be our number one priority as more and more countries devolve into authoritarian nightmares, if we’re lucky some of us jabbed can return to unjabbed status when it comes to spike protein production. Again, I appreciate your response and the work you’ve done here, stay safe.
 
Once his testicles drop he's going to feel so embarrassed over that.
iirc he's autistic, which is kind of worse because it means the people around him allowed and encouraged this.
Is it the vaccines? I don't know. I doubt a million or so people dying could be covered up so more likely it's a combination of a lot of factors. But it's unprecedented and the fact almost no one is discussing it is definitely strange.
Its also accelerating...i think there is a bigger story here. These were young people that just vanished
Vanished from the labor market, at least. Are we seeing a return to single-earner households maybe?
Rumor gavin newsome is Paralyzed from GBS

A rare and extremely painful complication

He hasnt been seen in weeks so big news if its true. Something has happened to him the media wont say.
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Will they let it come to light, or will they replace him with a body double? We do have the technology now.
People close to his family are saying be prepared for his passing to media on Twitter.
I suppose that was also an option.
Rumor was that the Chi Omega initiation ceremony included having the girls lie naked in a coffin. Not sure how true that is, but that's what everyone thought happened. Doesn't skull and bones do something similar?
I heard the same thing for both.
 
Thank you mate, since the vaccine produces the spike protein and fucks your system up with it I figure it’s removed similarly to how you’d fight the virus, maybe more vigorously. I’ve been having an annoying cold recently thats been weighing on me as I’ve been detoxing, so I want to see what happens with this. Detoxing the vaccine should be our number one priority as more and more countries devolve into authoritarian nightmares, if we’re lucky some of us jabbed can return to unjabbed status when it comes to spike protein production. Again, I appreciate your response and the work you’ve done here, stay safe.
Someone else ITT took melatonin and large dozes of Niacin.
 
Interesting name for a pajeet

On gavin: Robert malone

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I hope he isn't shooting his mouth off too early that he may embarass himself.

Could this be part of where Karl Denninger's missing million went? Those people who have supposedly disappeared from the labor force statistics with no good explanation?
I think it's a combination of boomer retirements, some homeland 'staycations', and an increase in people dying from 'general' causes.

i think its a combination of the media propoganda and the counter-media catching these politicans faking it. So naturally it would be the media savvy thing to get the shot, any PR person worth their shit would tell them that. literally the only reason you wouldn't argue for the vaxx is if you were in the know, and psaki is probably low enough on the totem pole that she wouldnt have been told, people think because they're on the news for a year or two that press secretary is a major player, but its a pretty low level job, you don't really move on to better things, you just leave washington and work as the boss of whoever runs the twitter account for mcdonalds or whatever.
@Kramer on the phone

Sometimes chain of communication breaks, and for all we know he could have gotten the real thing.

Thank you mate, since the vaccine produces the spike protein and fucks your system up with it I figure it’s removed similarly to how you’d fight the virus, maybe more vigorously. I’ve been having an annoying cold recently thats been weighing on me as I’ve been detoxing, so I want to see what happens with this. Detoxing the vaccine should be our number one priority as more and more countries devolve into authoritarian nightmares, if we’re lucky some of us jabbed can return to unjabbed status when it comes to spike protein production. Again, I appreciate your response and the work you’ve done here, stay safe.
Yeah, along with the issues with myocarditis, I'm concerned about the longer-term OAS effects + immuno-suppressive effects possibly leading to cancers- there are various reports that you may be stuck with the initial spike immune response, and yet other sources indicate that the jab is failing to train the body and that there is a 'do-over' option in terms of long-term immunity.

I would agree that quickly neutralizing the spike protein is a primary concern- and some more study on that topic and a working, scientifically-proven regimen would be important. Unfortunately I haven't seen any specific papers on those so far, but I would imagine that perhaps looking at a part of the papers on early treatments focused on preventing inflammation and cytokine storms would be beneficial?

Another topic I keep wondering about is if an adenovirus vaccine (J&J, AZ) could be effectively neutralized with a prophylactic cocktail of antivirals beforehand?
 
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Thank you mate, since the vaccine produces the spike protein and fucks your system up with it I figure it’s removed similarly to how you’d fight the virus, maybe more vigorously. I’ve been having an annoying cold recently thats been weighing on me as I’ve been detoxing, so I want to see what happens with this. Detoxing the vaccine should be our number one priority as more and more countries devolve into authoritarian nightmares, if we’re lucky some of us jabbed can return to unjabbed status when it comes to spike protein production. Again, I appreciate your response and the work you’ve done here, stay safe.
This is what the Spike protein looks like:

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This is how it works. Watch the conformational changes of the Spike very closely:


The way these vaccines allegedly work is by delivering a gene to the cells that codes for this protein, causing cells to express these proteins. They're in a modified form, with a few proline substitutes that allegedly lock them in the prefusion conformation, keeping the heads from being cleaved off proteolytically and keeping the Spike from activating.

The only way I can think of for the body to really "detoxify" these is by leukocytes responding with outright hostility and attacking, engulfing, and breaking down cells that express the Spike.

An anon on 4chan had this to say:

mRNA technology has been around for a while. What kept mRNA from being used in widespread vaccination was not having a way of protecting the mRNA long enough to get inside of cells and the ribosomes, where it can be "read" to construct a protein.
Instead of admitting this they (Moderna, Pfizer, etc.) went ahead with a lipid-soluble coating.
A lipid-soluble coating guarantees the injected mRNA to easily pass through cell membranes and get to the site of action (ribosomes). But it also meant that, unlike other vaccines, which have their particles taken up in normal lymph flow and end up in lymph-nodes, antigenic molecules are processed by dendritic cells and stay in the extracellular space (outside and in-between cells - the interstitium), otherwise the mRNA in these vaccines ends up everywhere, easily passing from the interstitium to the blood stream and across the blood-brain barrier.

Compared with getting a virus, the virus is only able to bond with and enter some cells; injecting its genetic material and taking over production to make more virus. It is limited to cells displaying molecules each virus is capable of binding to (in the case of SARS-CoV-2 this is a molecule called ACE2).
In "normal" vaccination only dendritic and a few other immune cells (which are designed to ingest and deal with antigenic molecules) end up with viral proteins in them. These specific cells are part of the immune reaction that ends up with long-term and robust immunity. With mRNA vaccination the injection is in the deltoid (most of the time) but the particles of mRNA move easily move in and out of cells and across biological membranes. Any cell, and subsequently its ribosomes, which come into contact with the exogenous mRNA, will start to produce the altered SARS-CoV-2 spike proteins that the mRNA instructs for.

In the normal course of cellular function the master copy of your build and operating instructions (DNA) has a chapter photocopied as needed (mRNA) and sent out to factories (ribosomes) which read the instructions and build proteins according to them. During this process, whatever protein is being made is reported back to the immune system. This happens by each of your cells taking one of the things its ribosomes are making and displaying them on the outside of their cell membrane.
Security (T-Cells of the immune system) come by, but can't get inside, they just look at the sign to see if something is off. If something is, they can nuke the whole city (induce lysis) or tag the sign for other bulldozer immune cells to come by and level it. This function fights both cancer and viral infection.
If either of those things cause a cell to start making abnormal or foreign proteins then the cell is instructed to kill itself (lysis) or it gets tagged to be destroyed by other immune cells.

Until recently you could only end up with antigenic (things which set off an immune response) molecules displayed to the immune system on subsets of cells. Either a virus infected your cells and that virus could only attach and enter a tiny number of overall cells in your body (like SARS-CoV-2 and cells which display ACE2), or you could get cancer (which is essentially one cell over and over and over).
Outside of that, antigenic molecules would be immediately destroyed by natural killer cells or would be collected through lymph to be processed and displayed by dendritic cells in lymph tissue (lymph nodes mostly). These dendritic cells look like massive tree root systems and all they do is process foreign material and display it on Major Histocompatibility Complex. That's the molecule complex that announces what's going on inside a cell to the outside world. It is the security (the immune system) that monitors to know if there is an issue inside, as security is a cell itself, and can't enter another cell.
The immune system is blind to the intracellular environment besides these signs (MHC). One type of T-Cell, T-Helper Cells, move up and down the "root system" of the dendritic cell, just looking at all the signs.
In this way, your lymph nodes and spleen (where this process mostly happens) act as security checkpoints, eventually coming across fragments of anything that ends up in your body. If they find something wrong, they induce an immune response to that thing which will eventually reach wherever the molecules they saw came from.

By injecting these lipid-soluble mRNA particles into peoples bodies; littering them throughout all tissue, dependent on each individuals weight, lipid percentage, hydration, cardiovascular state, anatomy, etc. Wherever concentrations of these end up you have random cells which will start to produce altered spike proteins.
The immune system notices this and starts attacking those areas. As each mRNA vaccinated cell is destroyed they spill their contents of altered spike protein (cytotoxic itself) into the local area.
The vaccine makers know the path to immune activation is through MHC (signs), and don't really address or care about all the excess spike proteins being made.
In the background, ribosomes are churning out actual spike protein into the inside of the cell. This is how viruses reproduce as well; once infected more viral particles are constructed inside a cell, but they don't get to release and go infect other cells until the infected cell is destroyed and they can escape.

All the atoms in your body are replaced about once a decade. Even your bones are constantly re-structured by osteoclasts and osteoblasts, so every 10 years you have entirely different atoms making up those bones. Even cells that generally don't replicate or die until you do, like neurons and muscle constantly replace their constituent parts.
The MHC displaying the product the ribosome are making will stay embedded in the cell wall until that section of the membrane is replaced due to other natural process (e.g. endocytosis).
This means that people who end up with persistent neurological or cardiac side effects may have them for years, until most of the signs stating the cell is making spike protein are torn down. For neurons in the brain, that could be years, not to mention the fact that in the mean time, the immune system is actively trying to kill off any of those cells, and often successfully.

There is so much we don't understand about this. A gigantic portion of your genome is dedicated to MHC. We don't have any idea about the mechanisms we are playing with. Not only are large swaths of MHC black boxes but the whole question of Clonal Selection (how your body 'knows' what is you and what isn't you, and therefore what to attack) is an open question.
There are no longitudinal studies on any of this, the safety data is non-existent beyond "it probably doesn't kill many of you in the first 90 days." It will take years to collect the data and produce irrefutable results, which is why the normal process is around 6 years from a working product. Without control groups, even that data will be easy to skew in interpretation though.


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Diphenhydramine inhibits lipid peroxidation. Cyproheptadine is not known to do so. Benadryl is pretty nasty, though, I agree.

There is a research that shows that cyproheptadine also inhibits lipid peroxidation: sauce And in addition it's anti-serotonin. It can also protect against ischemic stroke: another sauce
What do you guys have to say about (checks cabinet) hydroxyzine and cetirizine? I know cetirizine is a metabolite or (mumbles to compensate for having skimmed a long time ago) something of diphenhydramine. I take a lot of it during allergy season in combination with famotidine for acid indigestion from being a stressed out panda and that was my working theory on why I didn't get sick so far. I have a bunch of hydroxyzine laying around from an old anxiety diagnosis but I know it's an H1 blocker.

I'm just trying to avoid the big crowd of vaccinated old people I used to be around a lot, partially because I don't want a superbug and partially because I am sick of their bullshit socially.
 
Was thinking about something while washing dishes a few minutes ago.

If I was the Secretary of Defense, I wouldn't feel too smug about all the troops who have gotten their vaccinations. A number got them unwillingly. These troops got the shot to stay out of trouble/protect their career/family.

Suggest many of these troops will either not re-enlist, not continue past their obligated service, or retire at the first possible moment. It is very time-consuming and very expensive to train certain specialties. For example, it can take a good two years, starting at basic training, to produce a fully mission-qualified Korean/Chinese/Arabic/Pashto linguist. Takes about as long to produce a qualified fixed-wing pilot, maybe not quite as long for a rotary-wing pilot. Takes quite a while to train Navy nuclear power technicians. Likely more jobs whose training is long and expensive.

When these people leave early, the military and the country are deprived of their experience, often just when their experience can really come into play operationally. Re-enlistment rates are bad enough for linguists, and understand jet pilot retention isn't what it should be. The military then gets to spend the money to recruit and train these people's replacements.

The people who thus leave will find other jobs or depending on rank and family situation simply retire, period. Either way, they are lost to the military, because of a vaccine that's rather useless, if not dangerous. Just piss-poor bosses - NOT leaders, starting in the Oval Office.
 
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