YouTube is removing the dislike count on all videos across its platform - YouTube believes the change will better protect its creators from harassment and reduce the threat of what it calls “dislike attacks” — essentially, when a group teams up to drive up the number of dislikes a video receives.

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YouTube today announced its decision to make the “dislike” count on videos private across its platform. The decision is likely to be controversial given the extent that it impacts the public’s visibility into a video’s reception. But YouTube believes the change will better protect its creators from harassment and reduce the threat of what it calls “dislike attacks” — essentially, when a group teams up to drive up the number of dislikes a video receives.

The company says that while dislike counts won’t be visible to the public, it’s not removing the dislike button itself. Users can still click the thumbs down button on videos to signal their dislike to creators privately. Meanwhile, creators will be able to track their dislikes in YouTube Studio alongside other analytics about their video’s performance, if they choose.

The change follows an experiment YouTube ran earlier this year whose goal was to determine if these sorts of changes would reduce dislike attacks and creator harassment.

At the time, YouTube explained that public dislike counts can affect creators’ well-being and may motivate targeted campaigns to add dislikes to videos. While that’s true, dislikes can also serve as a signal to others when videos are clickbait, spam or misleading, which can be useful.

YouTube said it had also heard from smaller creators and others who were just getting started on the platform that they felt they were being unfairly targeted by dislike attacks. The experiment confirmed this was true — creators with smaller channels were targeted with dislike attacks more than larger creators were.

YouTube declined to share the specific details or the data collected through those experiments when TechCrunch asked, however. But it said it ran its tests for “multiple months” and conducted “in-depth analysis of the impact” as to how the changes affected both users and creators alike.

The company had experimented with different designs for removing the dislike counts, including one where the word “Dislike” appeared underneath the thumbs down button instead of the number of dislikes. This is the design the company has now settled on, which is less of a disruptive change to the row of engagement buttons beneath a video.

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The company would not be the first major platform to experiment with the idea of reducing the public visibility of signals that convey user sentiment. For similar mental health-related reasons, Instagram a couple of years ago began tests to hide its Like counts globally. It believed the focus on achieving Likes could be detrimental to its community and may make creators less comfortable expressing themselves on the platform. Ultimately, though, neither Facebook nor Instagram could fully commit to a decision and instead put the power to hide Likes back under users’ control — a move that effectively kept the status quo intact.

YouTube’s changes to the “dislike” count are being introduced at a time when there’s been a public reckoning over big tech and its impact on mental health, particularly when it comes to minors. Companies have been rethinking how their systems are designed to target and influence their user base, as well as what sort of changes they can make ahead of coming regulations. In a number of markets, lawmakers have been dragging in tech execs to hearings — YouTube included — and are crafting legislation aimed at reigning in some of tech’s more problematic elements. Mental health is only one area of regulatory interest, though, along with ad targeting, privacy, algorithmic boosting of misinformation and more.

In YouTube’s case, the company has attempted to get ahead of some of the required changes by implementing increased protections and privacy features for users ages 13 to 17 while also decreasing the monetization potential for “unhealthy” kids’ content. But the larger shift in the market is also pushing companies to consider the other areas of their platforms that are potentially toxic to broad groups of people.

That said, YouTube told TechCrunch today’s removal of the dislike count is not being guided by any regulatory changes, but rather its support for creators.

“We are proactively making this change because YouTube has a responsibility to protect creators, especially smaller creators, from harassment and dislike attacks,” a spokesperson said.

The company, of course, is also rolling this out when the battle for creator talent is becoming hugely competitive among tech giants. Today’s social platforms are establishing funds to retain their top creators amid increased competition, particularly from the growing threat of TikTok. YouTube this year announced a $100 million creator fund to jumpstart its short-form video platform, for example. And, over the past year or so, it’s introduced several new features and policies aimed at improving the creator experience.

The changes to the dislike count will roll out globally across YouTube’s platform starting today, including all devices and the web.


 
@Null ,pin this, this is going to be a HUGE step forward with hugboxes and echo chambers. When will Facebook and so follow suit I wonder?
Edit: Just when the Rittenhouse trial has progressed unfavorably to the system? Interesting timing. A tentative first step in something larger perhaps?
YT is following Facebook &c. on this, not the other way around. Neither FB nor Twitter have a dislike button.
 
YT is following Facebook &c. on this, not the other way around. Neither FB nor Twitter have a dislike button.
Ironically, Twitter recently beta tests a dislike button feature, though the counter wouldn't be shown ala Youtube nowadays but it will bury the reply down to the "show more" or even "offensive content" realm. Basically slightly better than Youtube where its does nothing basically.

Facebook technically has a dislike button, sort of. Most people use the angry button instead. Yes, the counter is shown there atleast.
 
It keeps climbing. They somehow still haven't applied the removal of dislikes despite claiming they were "immediately doing it following the announcement" initially. not sure what kinda snag they hit or if it's just they're waiting for outrage to die down but this is indeed a moment.
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It keeps climbing. They somehow still haven't applied the removal of dislikes despite claiming they were "immediately doing it following the announcement" initially. not sure what kinda snag they hit or if it's just they're waiting for outrage to die down but this is indeed a moment.
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I think it's an asymmetric roll-out. Some users (like me) have already been hit and can no longer see dislikes. Hovering over the like and dislike buttons only gives the message "I like/dislike this" respectively, whereas before it would show the exact number of likes/dislikes (ie: before, if it said 11K likes and you hovered over the like icon, it would show the precise number of likes, such as 11,102).
 
I think it's an asymmetric roll-out. Some users (like me) have already been hit and can no longer see dislikes. Hovering over the like and dislike buttons only gives the message "I like/dislike this" respectively, whereas before it would show the exact number of likes/dislikes (ie: before, if it said 11K likes and you hovered over the like icon, it would show the precise number of likes, such as 11,102).
They also could have fucked up and made it not universal like they intended it to be, kinda like how youtube layout changes sometimes flip flop between each other whenever they roll out a new shit change to it. I'm certain it's probably some shit like that if you can't see dislikes because I've witnessed shit like people being logged in and out depending on what page their on by youtube a year or 2 ago.
 
They also could have fucked up and made it not universal like they intended it to be, kinda like how youtube layout changes sometimes flip flop between each other whenever they roll out a new shit change to it. I'm certain it's probably some shit like that if you can't see dislikes because I've witnessed shit like people being logged in and out depending on what page their on by youtube a year or 2 ago.
I'll say that on my end so far, I can still see dislikes and shit. This is a really bad change if they do go through with it, cause how the hell am I supposed to know what vids are trash when it comes to fixing shit like with computers as others have pointed out.

All because some massive corporations are getting their feelings hurt cause some tards online are downvoting their garbage content. This does nothing to protect the small creator and only makes the platform all the more fucked.
 
I'll say that on my end so far, I can still see dislikes and shit. This is a really bad change if they do go through with it, cause how the hell am I supposed to know what vids are trash when it comes to fixing shit like with computers as others have pointed out.

All because some massive corporations are getting their feelings hurt cause some tards online are downvoting their garbage content. This does nothing to protect the small creator and only makes the platform all the more fucked.
What's wacky is most people that would usually make claims like this even said "NO THIS IS BAD NOBODY ASKED FOR THIS". Surprised it took this long for a bootlicker to show up and frame the universal backlash as "straight white dudes"
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LOL.

Proof that these people are not to be trusted. Please suck those Corporate dick more like a whore, fucking hacks.


The problem with the "Nobody asked for this" people is that there are tens of thousands of people asking for this and asking constantly.

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What is funny is that they still are not satisfied. Now they want comments removed/more moderated by Youtube.
Its an endless spiral of users having less ways to engage.
 

The problem with the "Nobody asked for this" people is that there are tens of thousands of people asking for this and asking constantly.

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What is funny is that they still are not satisfied. Now they want comments removed/more moderated by Youtube.
Its an endless spiral of users having less ways to engage.
Reminds me of how the only kind of people who fill out the survey on a receipt or end of a phone call are mostly dissatisfied consumers.
 
Users can still click the thumbs down button on videos to signal their dislike to creators privately
Do they actually think anyone believes this? Everyone knows that their intent is to shield creators from criticism. Clicking the dislike button isn't going to do anything but track your dislike on your own profile. You're the only one who will ever know about it.
 
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Do they actually think anyone believes this? Everyone knows that their intent is to shield creators from criticism. Clicking the dislike button isn't going to do anything but track your dislike on your own profile. You're the only one who will ever know about it.
You can see how many dislikes your videos get right now that feature isn't changing. The feature is it's going invisible to anyone other then the uploader on their analytics page. This will NOT protect the "small creators" from beign disliked it's literally only going to stop viewers from seeing the tampering with likes and dislikes youtube's done on mass media youtube videos before.
 
Do they actually think anyone believes this? Everyone knows that their intent is to shield creators from criticism. Clicking the dislike button isn't going to do anything but track your dislike on your own profile. You're the only one who will ever know about it.
I would believe that the creator will never see it. I would not believe that it's only for appearances on my own theoretical account.

I fully expect that Google will keep track of whether the videos that any given account dislikes are more mainstream or... "divergent", and will assign people internal social credit scores accordingly.

Not that they aren't already doing that, but I would not be shocked if they thought the people who continue to hit the dislike after the change are extra hardcore so maybe those ones even get reported to big brother.
 
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