Animal Breeding Horror Show - Featuring trendy bulldogs, exotic bullies and the dog cum cartel

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Would you jerk off animals daily for $10,000 a month?


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Getting a pup from a working farm is also a pretty good way of getting a healthy, pure-bred for relatively cheap. The puppy won't have papers but since it's bred for function, it's a lot less likely to be a genetic fuckup than with the show versions of the breed.

That's how we've gotten our last 2 dogs and a new puppy we're getting in a few weeks. Farmers who have bred for some more dogs but found a pup or two just didn't have the right temperament or drive for the job (our kelpie was scared of horses and no amount of exposure improved it and our border collie is extremely people focused and basically ignored the sheep).

Of course you need to have some knowledge or connections to find these farmers because a lot will only advertise locally or by word of mouth but the effort is well worth it imo.
So how did you manage it? Or are your farmers you got the dogs from local?
 
So how did you manage it? Or are your farmers you got the dogs from local?
Don't wanna PL too much but I know some people in agriculture and they source pups for my family if they have none available. Mine have come from other states but I have seen farms around where I live advertising their pups in regional farming Facebook groups, on message boards in shops and the like. There are scams out there but the ones I've seen have encouraged prospective owners going out to meet the dogs and to inquire about the pups possible new home.

They're not hidden but it might take a little bit of digging to find one with pups of the breed you're after.
 
It definitely happens. My sister has some kind of pit cross that was left in a box with his siblings at a park when he was around four weeks old. So he had super early intervention and as a result is perfectly fine with cats, other dogs and children. The trade off though is he's a terrible guard dog. He will bring strangers toys.

And that kind of extreme intervention may be necessary to get that family dog the pit defenders talk about. He was not raised by a bitch, he was raised by humans. He had extensive training in a ranch environment. This may have been all to him losing any ability to guard. As he's a dumb dog and there's no way for him to tell apart a "bad" human from a good one. The same thing with dogs. He can't differentiate a "bad" dog from a good so they're all "good". The Pyrenees could tell one of their "pack" members from coyotes or feral dogs. He doesn't seem to have this ability.

Tl;dr: Pits are dumb as rocks but if you get one early enough to teach it all things are good you'll get a family pet, but never a guard dog.
>Not all pibbls…..
>ackshually……
>despite being only 13% of dogs white women kiss on the lips…….


That dog is going to bite someone’s face off eventually.


If you look at the people buying them, I'm not actually sure they AREN'T inbred. This is from DoubleMuscleLineBulls Facebook page. The photo is marked as one of their clients/a purchaser of one of their frog-dogs.
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Edit: I circled the most sus looking individual, but really, most of them look like their family tree doesn't branch.
Italians.
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Now even LCN is in on this….
 
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Let me guess… it’s niggers doing it… isn’t it? Niggers or the Amish, that’s usually the culprits in shit breeding schemes.

Remember kids, vigilante justice is the best kind of justice, in Minecraft.
Rich white people are the ones who fucked up gsheps and Bulldogs. Lotta the shitty reptile people are white guys too.

While not directly breeding horror another shitty reptile keeper thing is venomoid snakes. They're venomous snakes who've had their venom glands remove, often without anesthesia. Shits fucked.
 
So I didn't get that dog.
Personally I'd never get a dog from a breeder. There are plenty of mutts out there waiting for a dose of the gas and if they've ever been outside alone, they know what it's like and are really grateful not to have to live or die like that.
While I understand the need to make sure that the pet is safe and that they often lie for a greater good, I still try to avoid situations where I can find myself stuck with a pet I can’t afford (economically and emotionally).
A lot of the animals with behavioral issues are exactly the kind you'd expect to have them, like pit bulls and other known aggressive breeds. Others have other issues or are difficult, like for instance rescued racing greyhounds, which are often really skittish and even nippy, not out of viciousness but because they've often been abused and startle easily. Greyhound racing is a really fucking shitty practice and one of its byproducts is psychologically fucked up animals.

It does suck to get a dog or other animal with some health problem, especially a fatal one that you can't really do anything about. I once had a dog with a collapsed larynx that they couldn't do anything about so eventually one day he just choked to death over the course of a couple minutes.
 
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While not directly breeding horror another shitty reptile keeper thing is venomoid snakes. They're venomous snakes who've had their venom glands remove, often without anesthesia. Shits fucked.

Reptile breeders are the fucking worst. So many inbred and sickly snakes raised bc they’ll be colorful for a year or two before their genetics turn on them and they die from any number of issues.

I didn’t know about the gland removal, that shit makes me legit want to hurt someone.
 
Growing up, I had a long haired chihuahua mix we got from a pet shop who had papers claiming she was a pure bred but her temperament and the fact she had floppy ears her entire life gave away that she wasn’t.

She had health problems her entire life. She had pneumonia before we got her, she had nasal issues, had to get an eye removed and had bladder stones. She ended up dying due to a botched surgery at around ten years of age.

She was a very sweet dog and often liked to herd our older dog, but goddamn. Never trusted pet shops ever again after that.
 
Reptile breeders are the fucking worst. So many inbred and sickly snakes raised bc they’ll be colorful for a year or two before their genetics turn on them and they die from any number of issues.

I didn’t know about the gland removal, that shit makes me legit want to hurt someone.

I think reptile expos are a very telling place to see who just does it as a side hobby and will talk your ear off about all the information you could want on that animal vs those with an entire half an aisle dedicated to their breeding hustle with a bunch just looking sad and clearly just a pricetag to the keeper. When the motivation of money and being a "worlds first" comes before realizing this creature is a living animal is when I nope out.

I think the people at NERD have more passion and better husbandry / awareness with their massive collection than someone like Brian Barczyk and Jay's Prehistoric Pets but that's not really a high bar to pass, but I don't watch their videos very often so feel free to correct me if you have a different opinion (the clickbait titles are fucking horrendous), but the main guy especially seems to have a passion and gets his animals medical care when they need it- that being said, it seems a lot of the videos are about snakes or reptiles there having issues come up (at least ones that were reccomended to me frequently), I could be entirely wrong though as like I said, only seen about 5 videos or so, mainly about his cool as fuck cobra Lillith and a few about some sick snakes he was medicating.

Speaking of NERD, just found this while looking at their stuff. looks like they have a video calling out Jay's Prehistoric Pets / other reptile youtubers

Pets should be pets first and foremost, even if they're scaley little dudes who just see you as a heat tree, what's the point of owning an animal if you don't want to see it thrive and be well taken care of?

anyway sorry for reptile sperging
 
Because the Kennel Clubs are worse than tradcaths when it comes to "following traditions." Most of the members have been in the KCs before time itself existed and they can still remember the marital issues of a lovely couple named Adam and Eve. It's all old money shit too, so for the AKC think Hunter Hearst Helmsley (not Triple H, his first gimmick) aged up by around a millennia and the stubbornness that comes with that age. Anyone who brings up changing the breed requirements is ignored or actively drummed out and they're also big on making sure ALL the KCs are on the same page. So if the JKC doesn't want to change it, the AKC and EKC will go along with it. They also don't let young people have a say until they "pay their dues" (read, share the profits and obey the SCs in charge of the club) and by then they're cranky old fogies themselves. Not to mention, getting in on it is impossible unless you know one of those cranky old fogies. It's a perfect storm of old money bullshit here in Current Year.
This reminds me of an article I read a good while back doing research on a college essay.
The article was about dalmatians which as far as unethical selective breeding goes seems fairly harmless. However dalmatians have extremely high rates of deafness. AKC guidelines insist that compliant breeders euthanize all puppies who are deaf at birth and sterilize dogs that develop hearing loss down the road. That alone greatly upset me. I can certainly appreciate that having a deaf dog, especially one with as much energy and prone to outbursts of frustration as a dalmatian carries with it some level of difficulty. But with a qualified owner and proper training there is no reason a deaf dalmatian could not have as good a quality of life as any other deaf being.
But the article went even further to say that the same genetics that give dalmatians their signature spots is also what predisposes them to hearing loss. Meanwhile the patchy variety of dalmatians are far less prone to deafness. Yet despite being aware of this fact AKC refuses to update the breed standard to accept and encourage the breeding of patchy dalmatians over spotted.
Meanwhile innocent newborn puppies are still being marked for death before having a chance to live because they keep pushing for genetics they know are faulty.
 
Reptile breeders are the fucking worst. So many inbred and sickly snakes raised bc they’ll be colorful for a year or two before their genetics turn on them and they die from any number of issues.

I didn’t know about the gland removal, that shit makes me legit want to hurt someone.
Eh, some breeders aren't bad and dont breed morphs known to have serious issues. The bad breeders do get horrifically bad though.

Venomoid snakes should make people want to hurt someone. Unfortunately venomous snakes are at the very bottom of animals who welfare normies tend to care about. At least where I live people will kill wild native ones for no reason and brag about it.

I think lots of people use snakes as a socially acceptable outlet for serial killer type bullshit. Its fucked up.
 
This reminds me of an article I read a good while back doing research on a college essay.
The article was about dalmatians which as far as unethical selective breeding goes seems fairly harmless. However dalmatians have extremely high rates of deafness. AKC guidelines insist that compliant breeders euthanize all puppies who are deaf at birth and sterilize dogs that develop hearing loss down the road. That alone greatly upset me. I can certainly appreciate that having a deaf dog, especially one with as much energy and prone to outbursts of frustration as a dalmatian carries with it some level of difficulty. But with a qualified owner and proper training there is no reason a deaf dalmatian could not have as good a quality of life as any other deaf being.
But the article went even further to say that the same genetics that give dalmatians their signature spots is also what predisposes them to hearing loss. Meanwhile the patchy variety of dalmatians are far less prone to deafness. Yet despite being aware of this fact AKC refuses to update the breed standard to accept and encourage the breeding of patchy dalmatians over spotted.
Meanwhile innocent newborn puppies are still being marked for death before having a chance to live because they keep pushing for genetics they know are faulty.
I had no idea that the AKC was so sketchy/particular like this.
I've never really grew up with a dog, but we have a lab rescue that serves the tri-state area who are really great and do great work too so when the time comes that I can appropriately take care of a doggo I'm going to rescue one from there.
 
I don't understand why these mother fucks are so God damn awful to dogs. Disgusting on how many people are actually buying into the grift of having these genetic disasters as pets. This is the dog equivalent to human traffickers bragging about the band's they make for smuggling and abusing poor people. Sick fucking people, I hope these scum bags rot in a jail cell for abusing these poor dogs like this. I felt way too sad when I seen the poor dogs that had their ears cut off, what the fuck is wrong with these people. If there isn't a medical purpose, why even so that? It doesn't make the dogs any cuter, if anything it makes the emotional trauma even more extreme for the poor dogs.
 
I don't understand why these mother fucks are so God damn awful to dogs. Disgusting on how many people are actually buying into the grift of having these genetic disasters as pets. This is the dog equivalent to human traffickers bragging about the band's they make for smuggling and abusing poor people. Sick fucking people, I hope these scum bags rot in a jail cell for abusing these poor dogs like this. I felt way too sad when I seen the poor dogs that had their ears cut off, what the fuck is wrong with these people. If there isn't a medical purpose, why even so that? It doesn't make the dogs any cuter, if anything it makes the emotional trauma even more extreme for the poor dogs.
Unfortunately while these exotic bully people are fucked, nothing they're doing is stuff that hasn't been done for centuries. AKC is just the older, whiter, richer version and I think they're just as into pointless ear cropping and tail docking as the bully weirdoes. Certain breeds like corgis they get butthurt about not having tails docked even if the dog is a family pet, not a working dog who are the only ones that actually benefit from it (less chance of injury from livestock).

Also wildlife trafficking is an actual thing and just as fucked up as human trafficking. While it is legal for some animals to be taken from the wild and sold as pets (most asian forest scorpions and vietnamese centipedes in the pet trade are wild caught adults), there's a huge problem with protected, endangered species being trafficked. Primates are some of worst victims since so many are endangered and people think they want a cute monkey to dress up or whatever.

Fun fact: baby chimps or monkeys or orangutans or w/e that were taken from the wild usually had their mothers and even entire family groups killed and sold for bushmeat. Primates will defend their babies to the death so poachers will kill the adults in order to take the babies. One of those things like venomoid snakes that should make everyone MOTI.
 
I'm confused about how these horrible breeders are actually making money. They say that's what the hustle is about, right? It looks like they're all trading the same buck around. I'm not buying that they're actually cashing in unless some sick normie fucks looks at these deformed animals and go "wow, I need it! This little thing definitely won't die in 48 hours! It's worth the $10,000 price tag!" It just seems like there's no gain if there's no outside influence.
 
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