Kyle Rittenhouse Legal Proceedings - Come for the trial, stay for….

What do you think will happen?

  • Guilty on all charges

    Votes: 282 8.8%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 1,077 33.7%
  • Mistral

    Votes: 264 8.3%
  • Mixture of verdicts

    Votes: 479 15.0%
  • Minecraft

    Votes: 213 6.7%
  • Roblox

    Votes: 132 4.1%
  • Runescape

    Votes: 203 6.3%
  • Somehow Guilty Of Two Mutually Exclusive Actions

    Votes: 514 16.1%
  • KYLE WILL SUBMIT TO BBC

    Votes: 35 1.1%

  • Total voters
    3,199
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Which side is the one with the advantage? My money is on innocent, but I also didnt expect Chauvin to be convicted. If it is innocent that is dragging its heels I would be surprised and lose my hope for humanity. Most likely some hipster or college educated yuppie that refuses to budge or is too afraid of the mob to stand by his principles.
The rumor was that 2 of the jurors were holding out because they were afraid of being harassed and losing their jobs, so if the rumor is true then it's most likely an acquittal.
 
So glad our government has the capability to fly things like THIS:

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Over a riot, and yet simultaneously cannot keep a car dealership from getting burned down.
9/11 was an inside job confirmed.

But seriously, it isn't surprising, considering the FBI was more than likely just gathering intel or catering to their TikTok urges to get some internal brownie points for filming something exceptional.
 
Jack Posobiec tweeted out that two people were holding out because they're afraid of getting doxed and shit. He claims to have gotten this information from a U.S. Marshall and while the jury was still in deliberations. I call bullshit. Some U.S. Marshall is privy to the particulars of jury deliberations and is feeding details to Posobiec and nobody else? Doesn't make sense.
Don't know what a US Marshall would be doing hanging around a state jury deliberation. Perhaps Poso misspoke?
 
I think that discussion was whether to allow them to view media coverage of the trial testimony, like PBS or CourtTV's raw, uncommentated video coverage of witness testimony. As opposed to just making them read the transcripts of testimony. I don't think it was in reference to videos submitted as evidence; I'm reasonably certain they are permitted to view anything in evidence if they wish to.
They're not allowed to watch any coverage of the trial under any circumstances.
The concern was that if they had unfettered access they might zero in on one piece of evidence and watch it over and over and disregard everything else.
So they decided the jury could rewatch footage in court. Like the judge and counsel would sit in while jury watched footage they they would return to jury room.
 
re: hang jury, remember each count is individual so a new trial would exclude charges that are settled (guilty or acquit). There's no way the judge doesn't strongarm the jury into at least resolving a few of the more clear cut charges (byecep and skateboard imo).
 
Don't know what a US Marshall would be doing hanging around a state jury deliberation. Perhaps Poso misspoke?
The walls are known to be thin (judge had a clerk complain to him on mic that the jury could hear him yelling at Binger), cops are gossipy bastards, and the Marshalls may or may not be there over the unrest.
Not saying Poso is certainly correct, but there is a possibility his info is good.
 
Don't know what a US Marshall would be doing hanging around a state jury deliberation. Perhaps Poso misspoke?
Earlier in the thread, there was an article stating the reason why US Marshalls are present. Take a guess why, it has something to do with the entire reason this case manifested. However, how'd they obtain the information could be many different ways or reasons. Heck, it could be as simple as someone making a comment in confidence to the Marshall considering they are "authority" and trusting them. Either way, several grains of salt.
 
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Not American, but my instinct is that the hype around this case is fundamentally different to Chauvin's and thus one shouldn't draw too many conclusions from what happened then.

Chauvin was never, ever going to get anything resembling a fair trial regardless of the facts around his case. BLM was a very close 2nd for international news story of the year in a year in which fucking covid happened. Here in the UK the BBC was reporting on the trial as if it were happening here. If Chauvin had have been found not guilty, there would have been mass protests in cities like London and Berlin, not just riots in the US. Maybe it's sad but the level of global interest in that case was such that there may have been a concern that if Chauvin weren't convicted then the international reputation of the US would decline.

Contrast with Rittenhouse, and the whole story has received very little attention outside of the US it seems. The only reason I know about it is from here and seeing people shitposting about it on 4chan. The BBC don't seem to be covering the trial in any major way. Even my American friends haven't mentioned it (and I have a couple mates who absolutely LOVE to politisperg, but don't seem interested in this one). The level of interest, and thus threat of retaliation if Rittenhouse is acquitted, is nowhere near as high. And I may be proven wrong on this very quickly, but I don't see any major riots happening even if he is fully acquitted. The protestors outside the court seem excessively spergy rather than being the types with balls to actually burn it down. Whereas if Chauvin had walked, it absolutely would have been the Summer of Sneed Pt. 2, instantaneously.
 
Don't know what a US Marshall would be doing hanging around a state jury deliberation. Perhaps Poso misspoke?
There have been numerous threats against the judge from across state lines and it’s a high profile case. I also think it’s a federal crime or civil rights violation to target a state judge.
 
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