Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Big if true, sounds like that page and philosophytube's wikipedia page need updating
its true, he made mention of it in his gross 'why i think its okay to joke about raping a 95 year old woman' video about the Queen.
they are also related to the doctors who we have just been covering, again whose details all tally up with Olly and what he's said (and helpfully there arent any other Lennards in Newcastle)
But yeah that stuff is airtight at least. He couldnt help but brag about his specific lineage in that video ages ago.

Can also see @narcissistic injury 's reddit info being true- its the easiest thing in the world to picture Tube enacting in the old softboy cry for sex thing.
thought i would like to know something of the informants personal connection to em.

(talking of wiki, that godawful picture was probably uploaded by him- usually wiki uses a weird random picture because its listed as open use, unless they get specific permissions.
 
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Looking at the Wikipedia, omg. Like how strange and absurd that he dramatized his own supposed experience as a one act play for internet monies???? No???? Only me???? Okay
 
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Looking at the Wikipedia, omg. Like how strange and absurd that he dramatized his own supposed experience as a one act play for internet monies???? No???? Only me???? Okay
I thought the Wikipedo contributor censored the words in the video title, but no, it was Aby himself. What a pussy.
The line "Thorn's video, Men. Abuse. Trauma. is about men's mental health, with reference to her personal experiences." is fucking hilarious though.
 
I found his brother's names through the electoral register. There's a couple of hits, but none of them seem to match the profile or show a family resemblance (I initally thought his brothers were an internationally successful fashion photographer who shoots for Vogue and a nuclear scientist respectively, which I wish was true because it would be funny for him to be the least successful brother).

Can't seem to find any matching socials or even a LinkedIn for them though. I had the impression that Ollie was the youngest but I'm not sure where I got that from - if he's the eldest, it would make sense for there not to be much on them as they might still be at uni, just starting out or whatever (surprisingly Ollie is only 28.). That being said, maybe they locked that shit down the moment their weird brother started bragging to them that he was YouTube famous.
I am relieved to know he isn’t an only child at least. Imagine the lone scion of your family trooning out and becoming an angry YouTube misogynist.

Also how the hell is he only 28? He has that middle-aged “my subcutaneous fat is breaking up and redistributing itself in weird ways” look already.
 
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Looking at the Wikipedia, omg. Like how strange and absurd that he dramatized his own supposed experience as a one act play for internet monies???? No???? Only me???? Okay
This is either written by him personally or that one insane superfan we thought was him for a while.

SNL42 or something?
 
Oh no, Kat never met Olly in person. It was a purely web-based thirst. But in her personal life she’s had, by her account, five exes later come out as trans. Staggering number. Olly’s treading a well worn path.

I agree he’d never date a black or otherwise nonwhite person; he’s made clear that his type is Aryan Americans exclusively. Lol can you imagine if he’d come out as a Lover of Blondes in the Olly era? I don’t think any Breadtuber without a trans shield could make that a major aspect of their persona without getting dragged.
I think it's because someone willingly dating a "trans woman" is certainly either a closeted gay person or an autogynophile himself. It's their way to "dip their toes" and see find themselves what the "trans identity" is really about. A man who is certain about his own heterosexuality and sexual identification would not come close, or even date a "trans woman" because they are not interested in biological males, and even less biological males filled with cross-sex hormones. So it wouldn't be surprising that those that do, are in search of "finding themselves" by getting close to the troons.
I did a quick google and I think the house above is the house opposite tubes house? That house is worth 6.75m and tubes is worth 1.3m - tubes house is no way near as grand but it is huge. The houses on that street are mental though lol
Wouldn't that mean that he has enough money to buy private insurance instead and get private healthcare instead of bitching about the NHS "treatment of trans people" ?.
 
Wouldn't that mean that he has enough money to buy private insurance instead and get private healthcare instead of bitching about the NHS "treatment of trans people" ?.
Yes, that's an oft repeated argument in the thread. Theoretically he should be more than able to get all the surgeries he could ever want anywhere in the whole fucking world - the USA, Thailand, Canada, Sweden, Germany, whatever. He should be able to get all his 'mones through private sources. He's doing this either performatively, to signal he's one of the ladsses, or to gain clout. It's probably the latter though, since he's a narcissist and can't survive without asspats and exposure.
 
I wonder how mum and dad feel about this?
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Most troons I follow on the 'Farms severed all of their ties with their families, Olly might be the same. If not, I imagine his parents don't really follow his Youtube career and social media otherwise their family dinners would get awkward.
"So, dear, uh, daughter, why did you base that vileful character in your latest video on your mother? It really wasn't nice of you."
"Aby, daughter dearest, I don't particularly appreciate you calling the National Health Service murderers."
"Abigail, your mother is concerned about your dress choices. No, we're not slut-shaming you. It's just... unbefitting of a young lady of your stature to wear such gaudy things."
 
Oooohhh so this is what he means by segregated healthcare?

It's true that a trans person has to see a psychologist before getting HRT and a cis person doesn't. But that would be because a cis person gets HRT for a physiological condition, whereas a trans person gets HRT because they want to transition (thus a psychiatric consult to ensure you understand what will happen and have informed consent, along with checking you're actually wanting to transition and don't just have something else going on). Also a cis woman can't just tell a doctor she wants HRT because she thinks she has early onset menopause, they still need to do blood tests etc to check.

In this sense it's like saying that anxious people have to contend with a segregated healthcare system because someone who doesn't get anxiety will be prescribed valium (for epilepsy) without seeing a psychiatrist whereas you can't just tell a GP "I'm anxious, give me valium" without any sort of consultation about whether or not you're actually anxious.
 
Oooohhh so this is what he means by segregated healthcare?

It's true that a trans person has to see a psychologist before getting HRT and a cis person doesn't. But that would be because a cis person gets HRT for a physiological condition, whereas a trans person gets HRT because they want to transition (thus a psychiatric consult to ensure you understand what will happen and have informed consent, along with checking you're actually wanting to transition and don't just have something else going on). Also a cis woman can't just tell a doctor she wants HRT because she thinks she has early onset menopause, they still need to do blood tests etc to check.

In this sense it's like saying that anxious people have to contend with a segregated healthcare system because someone who doesn't get anxiety will be prescribed valium (for epilepsy) without seeing a psychiatrist whereas you can't just tell a GP "I'm anxious, give me valium" without any sort of consultation about whether or not you're actually anxious.
Its fucking maddening isn't it? The rank dishonesty and ridiculously inflammatory language trotted out to push the most extreme and insane outcomes with basically no brakes so that they can make it possible for a 12 year old who likely barely knows what they are getting into can fuck with their own hormones and slice up their body in pursuit of some bizarre and endlessly ill defined idea of 'true gender'.

I hope I live to see this all end up with the same associations as people pushing lobotomies half a century ago or people making pro-ana groups more recently.
 

This NHS shit is all just a convenient and sneaky thinly veiled way to channel his rage and contempt towards his parents

100% convinced of this since finding the details on them yesterday.

He doesn’t actually give a shit. He does not give a shit about the trans community’s health. There are work arounds (dark web à la contra for example) and no one else is screeching at this level. He is taking aim at NHS because he has a convenient reason as a cover.

This is personal.
 
I wish there weren't so many gullible libshits out there who have the mentality of "activists are always right" (that's legit what propels most of the movement), because if that weren't the case there's no way in hell that anybody could look at people talking about "segregated" healthcare and take them seriously. It's so obviously reckless, disingenuous, and stupid to advocate for. And worse yet, they're saying that the common man should be paying for it.
 
Its fucking maddening isn't it? The rank dishonesty and ridiculously inflammatory language trotted out to push the most extreme and insane outcomes with basically no brakes so that they can make it possible for a 12 year old who likely barely knows what they are getting into can fuck with their own hormones and slice up their body in pursuit of some bizarre and endlessly ill defined idea of 'true gender'.

I hope I live to see this all end up with the same associations as people pushing lobotomies half a century ago or people making pro-ana groups more recently.
It's so weird to have already lived through:

80s - acceptance of pop stars and celebrities cross-dressing or being androgynous (Boy George, Annie Lennox), still regarded as their birth sex

90s - acceptance of regular people cross-dressing on a weekend or as a fetish (if some burly truck driver wants to wear heels and be called Stacey on a weekend, it's a bit salacious but nobody really cares), still regarded as their birth sex

00s - full time trannies wearily tolerated, mainly out of politeness (see Little Britain's "I'm a Lady" sketches), but not given access to women's spaces, still regarded as their birth sex

10s - sudden drive to redefine the term "woman", elimination of sex based rights, women-only prisons/bathrooms/sports/awards, demands to be regarded as whatever sex they want based on absolutely nothing (not even a psych evaluation), called a murderer of you disagree even slightly from this dogma.

I mean, fuck me I'm not that old, but that's a lot of change to live through already. I can only hope that the pendulum swings back equally fast.
 
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