Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[The handsome tard]

Pfizer CFO D'Amelio to retire after 15 years at company

Pfizer Inc said on Wednesday Chief Financial Officer Frank D'Amelio, 63, would retire after nearly 15 years at the company.

www.reuters.com

When CEOs leave when things are "on top", its because they know there is an iceberg coming and they would rather leave the consequences for whoever takes their place.

Just look at Disney with Bob Iger saying "good luck, ya shits, I gotta run for president in a few years" and left everything for Cook to solve.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/bill-gates-smallpox-terror-attack-b1958789.html

What a coinky-dink, that smallpox vials were found randomly in some lab a few weeks after he said this!
https://www.livescience.com/smallpo... contagious,to the World Health Organization.

There's also Gates saying that COVID will most likely become endemic soon assuming there is no "surprise variant."

https://fortune.com/2021/11/17/bill-gates-covid-future-death-infection-rates-seasonal-flu-next-year/

Are they seriously going to release fucking smallpox on us and use it to impose a new round of lockdowns?

At this point, I legit wouldnt be surprised if they nuked the whole world on purpose just so they rebuild society on their own image.

Another to add to the list other than my dear brother in law: A long time client of mine (who was a Branch Covidian but the vaxx debacle has woken her up) was telling me how her formerly healthy daughter who was 5 months pregnant got the shot, lost the baby within a day or two, and is ill otherwise, lethargic with joint pain. So not only was her baby killed by this poison, she's ill and in pain as well.

I'm so pissed off about this, I can't even think straight. And so many people refuse to see what's happening.

They wont care until its happening to them or someone they care about. And even then, they can still just pin it on something else because people prefer to dope themselves that they werent doped than accepting they were doped.

They'll never learn man. Technology and the constant assault on our attention spans and brain reward systems have turned this new generation into narcissist sociopaths.

This, people didnt grasp yet just how badly social media has affected humanity. Especially the youth, their brains werent meant to be exposed to that stuff so soon.

Legit, I think we are unintentionally brewing generations upon generations of dysfunctional adults at best and borderline sociopaths at worst.

Eh. Smallpox is a savage disease, but it's also an eminently treatable one. If there's an outbreak, go suck on a cow's teat for a while until you start sneezing and you're effectively immune to it.

Drink your calcium

In the last week, a friend's boyfriend and a cousin's husband, both fit men in their 30s-40s, "died suddenly and unexpectedly" in the night.

I went all through 2020 without knowing anyone whose significant other or anyone close to them "died suddenly and unexpectedly." Now it's happening multiple times in a week, and another friend's husband died suddenly in a similar age bracket in the week before.

I don't know what is happening here or why but if there's someone you really dislike, I'd encourage them to get extra boosted just to be safe.

Im not saying that this is a population control scheme but, pretending that it was one, how else would the ones on the top do it?

Someone's son in his early 30s got a stroke due to blood clots in the brain. The first thing the doctor says to his mother was "don't be thinking it was the vaccine", runs tests, the tests couldn't figure why a 30-year-old male is getting blood clots in the brain and stroking out. But it's not the vaccine.

I'm always willing to give the benefit of the doubt if it is something I have a bias in, I even said your son is an actual faggot, they're known to fall into drug abuse, it was the doctor blunting telling her on what not to think right off the bat and tests coming back inconclusive that just made more suspect.

I love how he right away says "dont you DARE to suggest the vaccine had anything to do with it!".

These medics are in cahoots with them and its so fucking obvious.

Yeah all the people saying it's confirmation bias are smoking something. like, sure, I must be totally forgetting all the times I've had multiple friends and family lose spouses in a month's time.

Its literally them saying "dont look at the man behind the curtain"

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1461385398937128961?s=21

Thats actually cute and heartwarming. Truly the last bastions of human sanity...

They can call it Largepox or Bigpox then add plus signs or the word,plus. Quite like the sound of BigpoxPlus. I think it would sell well.

We literally comercialized the concept of pandemics. What a time to be alive!... ..................................

Not suspicious at all ..
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FDA Asks Federal Judge For Permission to Withhold Pfizer COVID-19 Jab Data Until 2076 - NWT

Share The Story While that headline seems like clickbait, it’s a legitimate request the FDA made to a federal judge. The federal agency wants to withhold the full disclosure of the data and information of Pfizer’s COVID-19 injection for 55 years. Yet, they have no qualms approving the...

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"While that headline seems like clickbait, it’s a legitimate request the FDA made to a federal judge.
The federal agency wants to withhold the full disclosure of the data and information of Pfizer’s COVID-19 injection for 55 years."

This is stuff we would make jokes about 20-30 years ago, holy.fuck.

No judge worth his position would approve of this insanity...(thats why there is big chance he will).

Not.suspecious.at.all.

If small pox suddenly comes back, you know it was bad actors, and sadly a bunch of use would probably be exposed before we could get the vaccine, mutation or not. It would just leave the boomers. So between it and covid, they can wipe the world clean.

I remember a Dave Culle video talking about how the elites most likely look down at us from their choppers and see us crawling around like bugs and they cant help but feel disgusted at our very existence.

They want to wipe ths slate clean alright...

Austria's focus shifts to full lockdown as COVID-19 cases keep rising

Pressure on Austria's government to impose a full COVID-19 lockdown grew on Thursday as its worst-hit provinces said they would adopt the measure for themselves since infections are still rising despite the current lockdown for the unvaccinated.

www.reuters.com

65% isn't low it's higher than the US and about the same as the UK. Other places with higher rates are jabbing 12+ children.

Anyway they've been keeping purbloods under house arrest for a week and this is the result.

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Speculation was that separating mudbloods and purebloods would only accelerate viral transmission, due to the maladapted immune response in the vaccinated. Speculation has become reality.

Didnt people notice the patern that everything the government does making things worse? Legit, everytime they do the "winning" strategy, it blows up on their faces Daffy styled and they convince themselves that what went wrong is that they didnt double down on said strategies enough.

Its either maliciousness or astronomically comical incompetence.

My country is having a promotion for vaccinated - 37 USD, which you can spend but only on selected items, yet to be disclosed by the government. And the money is taken from the taxes.

Wow, what a steal!.........literally!

Also, has anyone mentioned in this thread that Austria is planning mandatory vaccinations for all?

Every time I think that the anti-vax side is just a little bit too conspiratorial, the reality is making me doubt.

Isnt this what they are wishing everywhere for the whole world? The only difference is if there are still some sane people enough on the highest levels of power within each specific country to accept this is utter insanity that will cause way WAY more harm than good, being stuff that wouldnt be out of place in nazi germany and communist russia.

Also you had two years of red pill to realise most conspiracy theories are true.

Holy crap, you're right, from 1st Feb next year.

Austria to go into full lockdown as Covid surges

As well as Monday's lockdown, the chancellor says vaccinations will be compulsory from February.

www.bbc.co.uk

Austria to go into full lockdown as Covid surges - BBC News

archived 19 Nov 2021 10:28:15 UTC

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This better not be the start of other countries following suit.

This wont solve covid and they will move the goal post as they always do to claim that they simply hasnt gone oppressive ENOUGH.

How you consider yourself the good guys when you preach for the literal lite incarceration of most of the populace? Society is one hell of a drug...

“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?"

I have no idea why this sprung to mind

The real question is why this isnt on most of the people.
History is there for a reason. LEARN from it.

I guess they want to keep selling both things.

It might feel a bit OT, but one thing is bothering me: I came across some schizo-threads on /pol/ that explain this depopulation via vax agenda not only by the completely broken economy, but also by something bigger, namely that TPTB know very well we run out of cheap oil, and there is maybe 3-4 years left at current consumption.

Afterwards everything goes to hell, because of course we need oil to produce food. (I was also thinking we need oil to produce and distribute pharmaceuticals, so maybe all this vax madness is a swan song of Big Pharma too). Hence depopulation as a humanitarian act, to prevent massive death by starvation.

This would explain why they focus on vaxxing developed countries and don't care really about third world.

Maybe some kiwis in this thread have some knowledge to debunk this schizo theory?

The question is if we will make it to 2077 to see the nukes drop. Mr House was born last year, after all.

Apparently, it's mainly fines and similar penalties. At some point you won't be able to work without vaccination or being constantly tested (which you'll have to pay for yourself, too), and maybe even not being able to work without vaccination at all. So you'll lose your job, or get suspended indefinitely without pay.
Social security is cut because you're unvaxxed, and the homeless shelters won't take you, either.
The Branch Covidians are salivating at the idea of armed policemen dragging the evil unvaxxed to get shot (in the arm with the vaccine, of course), though.

If the people refuse in mass, what they expect to do? Fine everyone? I think the establishment's ultimate downfall will be that they are flying too close to the sun. Austria is simply to test the water and it will blow up on their faces as I cant imagine the people that said no to this point will cave in at this point and wont start getting actually violent.

Does anyone else just burst into laughter at these things sometimes? I read earlier that Fauci wants to vaccinate six month old babies by spring 2022, and I just couldn't help but laugh. Not because I find it funny, I find it utterly fucking despicable and horrifying, but it's so fucking absurd that we are here. Vaccinating babies, mandatory vaccines, fuck. I fucking hate this world.

Dr. Fauci says he expects babies and toddlers will have a COVID-19 vaccine by spring 2022

Dr. Anthony Fauci told Insider, if he had to guess, Pfizer will conclude its trial in the coming months so a shot will reach under 5s in early 2022.

www.yahoo.com

Dr. Fauci says he expects babies and toddlers will have a COVID-19 va…

archived 19 Nov 2021 00:29:14 UTC

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Fauchi: Let me just give them a "quick injection", hoho!

Ireland will face severe Covid lockdown if people behave irresponsibly, O’Dea says

Fianna Fáil TD responds to crowds of people gathering in Limerick on Wednesday

www.irishtimes.com

Ireland will face severe Covid lockdown if people behave irresponsibl…

archived 19 Nov 2021 13:46:50 UTC

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“The function of the original lockdown was to stop people congregating and behaving irresponsibly, and the Government policy now is to depend on people to do that voluntarily. Of course if they don’t do that voluntarily, it could inevitably lead to another lockdown, which nobody wants.”

Im going to follow this reasoning the next few weeks.

"You're going to voluntarily have sex with me. Of course if you don't do it voluntarily it will inevitably lead to me raping you, which nobody wants"

Pardon me, politician and...

From the german wikipedia about mandatory vaccinations, specifically in Austria:
In Österreich besteht derzeit keine Impfpflicht, lediglich Empfehlungen. Geschichtlich wurde in Österreich deutlich länger als z. B. in Deutschland auf indirekte Maßnahmen gesetzt. Die Impfpflicht fand dann erstmalig durch eben diese deutsche Gesetzeslage mit dem Anschluss durch die Nationalsozialisten 1939, in Österreich eingang, als also deutsches Recht zu österreichischem wurde.
(Currently there are no mandatory vaccinations in Austria, only suggestions. (...) The first mandatory vaccination was introduced in 1939, when Austria fell under Nazi-Germany's jurisdiction.)

You can't make this shit up.

 

[CashMoney!]

Saw an advertisement on YouTube last night for the NZ government that showed a pregnant woman doubting the safety of the vaccine for her unborn baby... And deciding to get it because people she knew told her it would be fine.

She even mentions there's no long term studies on pregnant women with the vaccine. Pregnant women were told they shouldn't have it initially and to see this video is honestly fucking gross.

If someone could archive for me, that would be great, I'm out at the moment.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

Saw an advertisement on YouTube last night for the NZ government that showed a pregnant woman doubting the safety of the vaccine for her unborn baby... And deciding to get it because people she knew told her it would be fine.

She even mentions there's no long term studies on pregnant women with the vaccine. Pregnant women were told they shouldn't have it initially and to see this video is honestly fucking gross.

If someone could archive for me, that would be great, I'm out at the moment.

I got you, complete lunacy on display

 

[Keystone]

Saw an advertisement on YouTube last night for the NZ government that showed a pregnant woman doubting the safety of the vaccine for her unborn baby... And deciding to get it because people she knew told her it would be fine.

She even mentions there's no long term studies on pregnant women with the vaccine. Pregnant women were told they shouldn't have it initially and to see this video is honestly fucking gross.

If someone could archive for me, that would be great, I'm out at the moment.

Hope she enjoys the miscarriage.

 

[SCSI]

Netherlands: Police fire warning shots at Covid protesters​

Anger at Covid plans sparks riots in Rotterdam

Police in Rotterdam fired warning shots and used water cannon as protests turned violent.

www.bbc.com

Video on this page. I'm a dumb nigger and can't get any dl programs to work. Would be good if someone could archive.

Some screenshots from video -

<snip>
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Europe's lockdown fury: Violence breaks out in Vienna as 10,000 protesters take to the streets and thousands more march in Amsterdam - hours after two people are SHOT in Rotterdam during clashes between activists and Dutch riot police​

Europe's anti-lockdown hell: Violence breaks out in Vienna as 10,000 …

archived 20 Nov 2021 19:02:25 UTC

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• Violence erupted in Vienna today as 10,000 protesters took to the streets after new lockdown was announced
• Two people were shot during an 'orgy of violence' amid anti-lockdown protests in Rotterdam Friday evening
• Police confirmed the injuries to the rioters, but did not clarify what type of ammunition was used against them
• Protesters also gathered in Amsterdam, the southern town of Breda to demonstrate against measures today
• The Netherlands entered a partial lockdown on Saturday, sparking a furious backlash against the government
• Austria on Friday reimposed a full winter lockdown and neighbouring Germany warned it may soon follow suit

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Played around with the BBC video, looks like it's DRMed, don't have a good workaround on that one at the moment that doesn't involve re-recording. However, I have a consolation prize.

Crossposting from the protest/riot watch thread, it's not yet verified but I may have found video of one of the two deaths in Rotterdam. Somewhat graphic by virtue of the subject matter, though no detailed views of the wound (a bit of blood appears to be visible). Very tender-hearted flightless birds may not want to click this spoiler. (The link, however has more enjoyable clips involving pretty fireworks, a guy tackling a cop, and protestors playing a game of chicken with a police van that ends safely.)

Spoiler: Protestor Shot and Aftermath (NSFW)

I'm surprised this is still up on YouTube:

BitChute Mirror:

Crimes or Cover-Up? Exposing the World’s Most Dangerous Lie

COVID-19 changed everything. The way we live our lives, how we operate our businesses, how we see each other. And now, the federal government is sinking its tendrils even deeper, threatening the fabric not only of our bodily autonomy, but of the rep…

www.bitchute.com

I saved the whole thing, of course, but it's 500+ meg.

Got you covered, fren. This one compressed poorly so had to cut the rez to 480p.

Spoiler: Crimes or Cover-Up Exposing the World’s Most Dangerous Lie (5 Parts)

Part 1

Part 2

Part3

Part 4

Part 5

 

[Abdul Alhazred]

A serious question for you all; What's gonna happen in a few years? Is it possible that things end because the Elite get scared of an uprising and slink into hiding? Are we going to see this dystopian nightmare truly implemented? Are we finally going to rise up and take our countries back from the Cabal? For the first time in my life, I've never been more grim or frightened by the way things are going. Will we really have enough fight to stop this madness? Or is it inevitable? I'm ready to die on my feet personally, I would rather die then comply anymore then I have already. I seriously hope we can take our world back. In other news, looks like us 2-dose untermensch are going to be joining the unvaxxed very soon.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

When you see a mushroom cloud over Washington DC, then things will get better.

 

[Dude Snakes]

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Hope she enjoys the miscarriage.

She has a special place reserved for her in Hell for what she has done to that child.

 

[Lichen Bark]

Alex Berenson, a journalist who has done some writing for the New York Times, posted this on his substack:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60
https://archive.vn/gRzaJ

Edit: I think the group composition would change as time goes on in the vaccination program, as more olds leave the blue line and get jabbed, they then make the blue line mostly younger people overall. If you look at the UK vaccination uptake this would make sense.

Looks like @Hot Cup of Joe gets his wish. According to this the vaccinated under 60s are twice as likely to die from all causes vs. the unvaccinated. I considered that the age groups of orange line would skew more older people, but then again that doesn't explain why it was lower at the start of the year.

It's interesting how the two lines switch places early 2021. Berenson says he got the data from here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland and downloading the excel file and looking at table 4. I looked at the excel file but I'm not really good at building graphs out of this amount of data. The data is there though, I just have a free excel program, and I'm not sure the conversion did everything right/if it's displaying properly, or if my free program has the same features as excel. Maybe if you have Excel take a look see? Fuck you Microsoft! I'll never go back! NEVER!

 

[Yuri_]

showed a pregnant woman doubting the safety of the vaccine for her unborn baby... And deciding to get it because people she knew told her it would be fine.

"Well... if the gals say it's ok... I guess it can't be so bad"

 

[Protistology]

A serious question for you all; What's gonna happen in a few years? Is it possible that things end because the Elite get scared of an uprising and slink into hiding? Are we going to see this dystopian nightmare truly implemented? Are we finally going to rise up and take our countries back from the Cabal? For the first time in my life, I've never been more grim or frightened by the way things are going. Will we really have enough fight to stop this madness? Or is it inevitable? I'm ready to die on my feet personally, I would rather die then comply anymore then I have already. I seriously hope we can take our world back. In other news, looks like us 2-dose untermensch are going to be joining the unvaxxed very soon.

Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but MORE merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy — everything.

There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness.


There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always — do not forget this, Winston — always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever

1) Wouldn't the OAS apply to the first exposure (the real thing) and not the vax-induced exposure then?
2) My body was able to defend itself easily without any prior exposure or vaccination the first time around, why would this be any different?

OAS is triggered by having only out dated S antibodies. The vaccines only give S antibodies. Natural immunity gives S and N.

Vaccination seems to interfere with natural immunity. Why else would they be screaming about the immune getting vaccinated?

 

[Mhallachd]

- Destroy the soul of the "white" man through decades of brainwashing.
- Create "vaccine" that kills after 1-5 years.
- Force them on the "white" people knowing most of them will take it without much coercing. Some non "white" deaths are acceptable.
- Replace the dead by mass importing third worlders who will work for less and consume more while questioning nothing.
- ???
- Profit!

I missed that they found a closer sample (Banal-52 is 96.8% versus RaTG13 96.2%) but LOL of course the lab had both samples and hundreds of others. The same problem with a natural origin persists--how did the bats start an outbreak in Wuhan from thousands of kilometers away when they weren't in any markets because they don't eat bats in Wuhan? Take note Sept 2019 was when WIV took its virus database offline. The NYT article tries to put Patient Zero in December but that's months too late. WIV was already engaged in the coverup by September.



The NYT article is the response. It will get more eyes than yahoo and Drastic.

Last year there was a journalist who tried to enter the region that contains the cave system and the mining village that was apparently the first to get covid cases. The journalist was stopped by the Chinese military and was never able to get close. I'm curious if any more information has come out about this black site. (I'm guessing no as most likely it was the lab that created the human transmissible version and they don't want that getting out).

@Derka Derka I like this part of the article -
It is, of course, correct that two doses of the Pfizer vaccine doesn’t offer total protection and that protection wanes over time. A person can catch Covid-19 if they are vaccinated. They can pass it on. They can still die. But the evidence is very clear: the likelihood of any of this eventuating post-immunisation is significantly reduced.
Yet for a cohort of people, ‘exceedingly good at stopping serious illness and death’ and ‘very good at stopping infection’ is not good enough. The imperfection of the Pfizer vaccine has helped nurture vaccine hesitancy both here and overseas.

The cheek of some people to think it's not good enough to be forced onto them! Don't they know about the significant reduction! They should just shut up and get their 4th booster so they can keep their job and go to the supermarket!

@benutz
Are we at the point where we either die with dignity in a one sided battle in Minecraft or we live in fear for decades hoping every night isn't the night the thought police come knocking. I have got a ton of NPCs at my work, their dialog trees are very basic and if you don't select one of the base available response options then they don't know what to say other than to repeat their previous line. It's like talking to an automated phone system.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

OAS is triggered by having only out dated S antibodies. The vaccines only give S antibodies. Natural immunity gives S and N.

Again you miss my point.
If I already have S & N antibodies (+T-cell recognition, plus probably also B-cell & interferon), then how the fuck is OAS going to apply to the vaccine and not the prior infection?

Also OAS is meaningless if your body can already fight the infection.

Vaccination seems to interfere with natural immunity. Why else would they be screaming about the immune getting vaccinated?

This is proof of nothing.

 

[Nom Carver]

A serious question for you all; What's gonna happen in a few years? Is it possible that things end because the Elite get scared of an uprising and slink into hiding? Are we going to see this dystopian nightmare truly implemented? Are we finally going to rise up and take our countries back from the Cabal? For the first time in my life, I've never been more grim or frightened by the way things are going. Will we really have enough fight to stop this madness? Or is it inevitable? I'm ready to die on my feet personally, I would rather die then comply anymore then I have already. I seriously hope we can take our world back. In other news, looks like us 2-dose untermensch are going to be joining the unvaxxed very soon.

My assumption? Things will go the way they always have in that dystopia will never truly happen because the personal demands and ambitions of the people will always prevent it from happening (just like how Utopia is impossible). Though obviously things can, and will get worse. But there is a point where nobody can put up with it. You know how you can slowly move an object and someone else won't notice until they realize "That wasn't over there a minute ago". That will happen one day. And the push back will be glorious. For now though, things are being slowly moved and many haven't realized yet. The only reason we know is because we've been actively paying attention to the moving object.

In other words, things will get worse, people will die. But it will never truly be dystopia and one day we'll bounce back. Humans have always done this one step back-- two steps forwards stuff. As for your non-fear of dying, keep that close. You, me, and everyone who exists is made to die. It's natural and intentional, fearing it is a waste of time. And I'm certain that you're gonna feel really silly for all that time spent fearing it once it actually happens to you. This entire happening has provided a unique opportunity of motivation and time to think on such things that are easy to gloss over in favor of more immediate considerations in day to day life. Really sit and examine the world around you. Remember- the world is only truly what you perceive it as. So educate yourself and hold and formulate your personal beliefs about the great beyond above everyone else's personal beliefs. And maybe one day we can play a betting game on who's prediction was closest or something.

 

[NoReturn]

This was featured on Digg today, originally posted on The Cut (NY Times) complete with condescending subtitle.

The Unvaxxed Lefties Hiding in Plain Sight (Archive: https://archive.md/iLukx)​

They insist they’re more sophisticated than your typical anti-vaxxer. Not that they’re telling anyone.​

Full text:

By Angelina Chapin

The first time David lied about being vaccinated against COVID-19 was during his shift at an ice-cream shop in L.A. A few months ago, a co-worker asked if he’d gotten the shot, and the 24-year-old paused for a split second before saying “Yes.” The fib felt unnatural coming out of his mouth, but he was more worried about people assuming he was a Facebook-meme-believing, Trump-loving Republican, when he felt nothing could be further from the truth. David, who requested a pseudonym, is a “pretty radical leftist” who wrote in Bernie Sanders on the ballot last November and says he believes in “science and medicine.” But he’s also skeptical about a vaccine he feels Big Pharma rushed to the market. Why be a guinea pig? He’s not “anti-vaxx,” just anti-COVID vaxx, though his fellow lefties seem unable to separate his “genuine concerns about taking an experimental vaccine with widespread side effects from the more crazy conspiracy fears about nanobots and the rapture.” So the recent UCLA grad keeps these thoughts to himself, or posts them anonymously on Reddit and lies to friends and family. David decided that having “people make assumptions about your character or your intelligence” felt worse than just pretending to “be what they want you to be.”

During the pandemic, the prototypical anti-vaxxer emerged as a maskless conservative who prays to the altar of individual liberty and fears microchips being injected into their veins. And while the largest piece of the unvaccinated pie is certainly red, there’s a little slice of lefties just like David, whose skepticism of the jab is rivaled only by their rejection of right-wing stereotypes. These vaxx-less intelligentsia sit to the left of Democrats, somewhere on the spectrum near holistic mommies who swear by herbal remedies and New York’s downtown kids who infamously partied through the pandemic, scolds be damned. They are part of the 10 percent of Americans who’ve adopted a “wait and see” attitude toward the vaccine, more likely to hold progressive beliefs and approach the shot with raised eyebrows than middle fingers.

I started noticing them a few months ago on social media, where a handful of former classmates from my liberal-arts college were bad-mouthing Pfizer and Moderna. While some were posting from the rabbit hole, others mused about the need for critical thinking, open dialogue, and a close reading of scientific studies. These talking points seemed more ripped from our philosophy seminars than any Republican playbook, and were cushioned with caveats (“This is just for me, over here in my body in my demographic and specific living situation, for the time being”). Besides, they weren’t being reckless! They mask up and get tested, and some are fairly isolated. Similar arguments were recently made by unvaxxed Green Bay Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers: “I’m not some sort of anti-vaxx flat-earther. I’m somebody who’s a critical thinker,” he told a radio host. “I just wanted to make the best choice for my body.” (Though we don’t know Rodgers’s politics, he has a history of supporting progressive causes, like racial equality and legal aid.) This shade of the anti-vaxx movement is just asking fellow leftists to keep an open mind, same as they would while discussing Plato on a grassy campus lawn. But often, their philosophical, anti-Establishment critiques are a way to justify personal fears — fears many have worked hard to hide.

Vaxx-hesitant progressives say they are under attack. Over and over again, they told me about feeling like outcasts in their lefty circles (for this reason, almost all asked for pseudonyms). “The term anti-vaxxer has become associated with crazy people,” says Amy, a 40-year-old Democrat with “socialist ideals.” “I feel like an outlaw.” Another woman said: “You’re either vaccinated or you’re an irrational, uneducated, dangerous conspiracy theorist who deserves to be silenced, shunned, and punished for daring to have a difference of opinion.” The options, she insisted, boil down to “shut up or deceive.”

Since she’s started to lie about being vaccinated, Sam feels like she’s living a double life. “It’s a really painful, awkward position I put myself in,” she said. “You have to keep track of who you’ve said what to. It’s the kind of thing that keeps you up at night.” But what choice did she have? The former Bernie supporter, who is “for peace and justice,” says there’s no room to admit she’s skeptical of the vaccine “without losing her freedoms” and even some of her relationships. David’s roommates, a pair of siblings, wanted nothing to do with him after their mother died of COVID-19; some close friends he’s been honest with have “really changed their opinion of me” or teasingly called him a Trump supporter. So he’s started lying. On a recent trip to New York, where bars and restaurants require proof, he brought his friend’s vaxx card and ID. Does he feel bad about it? “I don’t feel bad breaking rules that I don’t think are sensible,” he says.

While lying to a hostess is fairly low-risk, doing the same with your boss carries bigger consequences. When the ice-cream shop put a mandate in place, David tried to get an exemption, to no avail. He now works for a cryptocurrency firm that doesn’t require proof of vaccination, even though he goes into an office. He’s confident that after having COVID — well, what he suspects was COVID-19, back in January 2020 — he has full immunity anyway. How else to explain the fact that after going to three music festivals with thousands of people, he never tested positive? (Of course, according to the CDC, you should still get vaxxed even if you had the virus.) Amy knew better than to be honest with any of her colleagues at the West Coast university where she worked as a web producer; when the school implemented a mandate this fall, she left, claiming to be dissatisfied with her salary. It wasn’t a lie per se — she had recently been turned down for a raise because management had “higher priorities.” As an Asian American woman, she also felt frustrated by the university’s efforts at inclusivity; though they made up a sizable chunk of the student population, Asian people rarely appeared on the school’s website, she says. Now that she’s interviewing for new jobs, Amy’s faced with the same dilemma of how much to reveal.

Not all unvaccinated lefties are hiding in plain sight. Erin Galvin is honest with her friends and family, 98 percent of whom she says are jabbed but tend be “completely against mandates.” The very idea of lying bothers her — why rage against the shots privately only to feign support for them in public? The 35-year-old’s particular brand of vaccine hesitancy stems from her distrust of pharmaceutical companies, part of an anti-authority instinct she honed while studying at the “very hippie” University of New Hampshire where professors taught her to “question everything.” (Her Twitter bio reads “anti-establishment peasant seeking other anti-establishment peasants to organize the revolution .”) How could there not be corruption, she wondered, when the vaccine was developed on a rushed timeline by the likes of Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson, brands that have been sued for billions after misleading patients or selling them cancer-causing products? Even though all three shots were still put through standard testing and trials, she didn’t trust them.

It’s all too slippery a slope for Galvin. She’s fine with masks and lockdowns but thinks mandates could “quickly descend into fascism.” (“It’s become kind of hypocritical for a lot of left-leaning people who are pro-choice to kind of fall along the line of mandate,” she told me.) Side effects are a big concern — she’s connected on Twitter with women who claim the vaccine has affected their periods, and a man who says his teenage daughter lost feeling in parts of her body after the shot. Sure, the examples are anecdotal (and not definitively correlated), but Galvin wants an open discussion about these negative reactions, and for vaccine developers to be legally responsible if something goes wrong. She worries about “irreversible” effects, like a stroke or becoming sterile (though multiple studies have found the vaccine has no effect on a woman’s fertility). In the end, there are just too many unknowns for her to feel safe. “To be honest,” she says, “it scares me.”

Fear was at the root of many arguments I heard, even if it took a while to get there. While most began by parroting some version of Galvin’s talking points about experimental vaccines and corporate corruption, their manifestos at times felt better suited for a shrink’s couch than a lectern. Many concerns were based on paranoid suspicions, not facts. Sure, the pool of those experiencing side effects might seem small, but what if the real numbers were being suppressed? What if in five years, the vaccinated were all diagnosed with cancer? (It’s worth noting that with all other vaccines, any negative effects have shown up within two months.) When they did veer into specifics, the information was often lacking in context or just plain wrong. A popular talking point was that since the vaccine doesn’t affect transmission, why get it? “The illusion of superhero invincibility that the pro-mRNA pushers have created is just that — an illusion,” one wrote to me in an email. “I don’t know that it’s super-effective,” said Galvin. “You don’t even have full protection.” (Recent studies show the jabbed are less contagious, and five times less likely to get COVID-19 in the first place.) Others said that as relatively young, healthy people, the vaccine poses a greater danger to their bodies than COVID-19 (which, again, is statistically untrue.)

How to account for these falsehoods from people who claim to want reasonable, objective debate? It made more sense when they started getting personal. There were horror stories about the medical system — my former classmate said he was “drugged and abused” at a hospital this summer after experiencing psychiatric issues, while a Black woman cited “the long history of health-care bias and genocide that has directly affected POC communities.” How could she trust doctors and scientists, given the long history of racial exploitation? Many had specific health concerns: A woman with a rare blood disorder worried the vaccine could kill her, and David was concerned the shot would exacerbate an inflammatory syndrome that’s been giving him “intestinal problems and hives” since he says he was infected with COVID-19. Even Aaron Rodgers, when pressed, claimed to be allergic to an ingredient in mRNA vaccines.

Amy is also terrified of potential side effects. She can list people who died after getting the shot (though of the five names she sent me over email, only one of the tragedies was directly linked to the vaccine) — and is convinced the actual number of people with serious reactions is being censored by scientists who have been “brainwashed to say that vaccines are effective and safe.” But even if she were to believe the chances of heart inflammation or paralysis are rare, which all research has shown, who’s to say she won’t get unlucky? “If I knew for sure the vaccine was safe for me,” Amy says, “then I would get it.”

Of course, one key difference between skeptics and vehement anti-vaxxers is that the former are much more persuadable. In fact, roughly a third of Americans who were hesitant to get vaxxed last year have since changed their minds. Some I spoke with are stiff holdouts: Galvin’s turned off by the necessity of boosters, and David’s not one to go back on a decision “after having committed for as long as I have.” But others showed more openness, like my classmate who said he’ll make a decision next spring, or a woman who’s worried about “various strains popping up.”

Amy has gone back and forth. At times she’s considered giving in, especially since she could need the vaccine to land another job (and besides, no one in her family has suffered any side effects). Then she’ll read about people’s severe reactions and completely change her mind. (“I cannot bring myself to be vaccinated,” she wrote in a recent email, linking to an article about an Australian woman who suffered a stroke as an extremely rare side effect of the AstraZeneca vaccine.) Even if she does come over to the vaxx side, Amy’s begun to question her politics. While she thought Trump was horrible, maybe, if he were still president, she’d still have her university job or be able to express her concerns more freely. After a lifetime of voting for Democrats, she’s suddenly feeling open to other candidates. “It’s kind of weird,” she said. “I sometimes wonder, well, am I really a Republican?”

The comments:

Spoiler: More in here

 

[PurpleEater]

I don't believe this.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

- Destroy the soul of the "white" man through decades of brainwashing.
- Create "vaccine" that kills after 1-5 years.
- Force them on the "white" people knowing most of them will take it without much coercing. Some non "white" deaths are acceptable.
- Replace the dead by mass importing third worlders who will work for less and consume more while questioning nothing.
- ???
- Profit!

The problem is they'd be killing their essential managerial class, the 1-5% of upper middle class whites (and token minorities who are culturally white) concentrated along the coasts (in the US) or cities like London who have hyper-progressive, globalist mindsets and are major consoomers. And third worlders are the exact opposite of "question nothing", they are insanely tribalistic and ungovernable. Look at all the riots in India and Africa. Why do they need to consoom when half the time they'll just steal things or get it via corruption from a rich family member?

But they don't really matter so much when if you kill most whites in the first world, you're left with the whites who already hate you and left with other races who never gave a fuck and just want free shit i.e. the people who will shoot you for being told to wear a mask. And I don't know about European gangs, but in the US there's a ton of black vs Hispanic violence. They won't side with a bunch of invading Hispanics, they're pretty much defacto allied with the rural whites. Killing your managers and consoomers isn't a recipe for success, and even people as out of touch as the ruling class know this.

Now, I could believe the opposite is true. Vaxx as many people as possible, then release a new strain that they'd call a "natural mutation caused by the unvaccinated". This strain is modified to kill the vaxxed only as much as everyone else but is extremely deadly to the unvaxxed. Boom, they just killed a huge chunk of the whites who opposed them, had their "vaccine" vindicated in the eyes of the world in an "I told you so!" way (thus silencing/converting at least some of the vaxxed people who oppose them), cleaned up major urban areas of gimmigrants/welfare addicts/criminals (thus saving a lot of money), and dealt with third world overpopulation by killing billions of people in Africa and India. Borders are opened forever to let in people from "devastated" nations as the world welcomes the thousand-year globohomo reich.

 

[Kona_A9]

Alex Berenson, a journalist who has done some writing for the New York Times, posted this on his substack:

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/vaccinated-english-adults-under-60
https://archive.vn/gRzaJ

Looks like @Hot Cup of Joe gets his wish. According to this the vaccinated under 60s are twice as likely to die from all causes vs. the unvaccinated. I considered that the age groups of orange line would skew more older people, but then again that doesn't explain why it was lower at the start of the year.
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It's interesting how the two lines switch places early 2021. Berenson says he got the data from here:
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...ths/datasets/deathsbyvaccinationstatusengland and downloading the excel file and looking at table 4. I looked at the excel file but I'm not really good at building graphs out of this amount of data. The data is there though, I just have a free excel program, and I'm not sure the conversion did everything right/if it's displaying properly, or if my free program has the same features as excel. Maybe if you have Excel take a look see? Fuck you Microsoft! I'll never go back! NEVER!

On this one, I'm guessing it's just a case of under 20s making up almost the entirety of the unvaccinated, which would heavily weigh down the mortality rate. I may be wrong, but either way "10 - 59" is some bullshit age grouping that can only be meant to obfuscate.

 

[Lichen Bark]

On this one, I'm guessing it's just a case of under 20s making up almost the entirety of the unvaccinated, which would heavily weigh down the mortality rate. I may be wrong, but either way "10 - 59" is some bullshit age grouping that can only be meant to obfuscate.

Agreed, unfortunately that's all the UK is releasing in its spreadsheet. What do you think about the two rates being reversed in the early part of the chart? Edit: after thinking about it a bit longer, the ages in each group would change as time went on due to more getting vaccinated. I amended the post.

Edit: @NoReturn
"There could be unvaxxed hiding amongst your friends, root them out!"

I started noticing them a few months ago on social media, where a handful of former classmates from my liberal-arts college were bad-mouthing Pfizer and Moderna.

-This article sponsored by Pfizer & Moderna-

Spoiler: Author Angelina Chapin

She's self aware.

What an awful article, but I expect nothing less from the cut, they are pure propaganda, with extra helping of spreading division, and increasing hate.

 

[Autistic Joe]

... They're likely getting the native files (Office stuff, raw databases, etc) converted to PDF format by <EDISCO VENDOR> and sent to them to read through pretty much manually. I.e., they've used a bunch of technology to essentially recreate giant boxes of paper like in a John Grisham movie from the 90s, but in electronic form. I don't even know if they're getting searchable PDFs, or the most bare-bones primitive crap that's just tiff images stitched together in an Adobe wrapper. The only way an oldschool review method like this works, is if you use oldschool staffing approaches that involve hundreds or thousands of attorneys all sitting together reading through this stuff like a slave galley crew in suits. The kind of living hell places like "Satan's Workshop" used to be famous for in the industry. 10 guys is nowhere near enough to work that way in a timely manner, especially not when they probably all spend half their shifts playing Russian roulette and wondering where their lives went wrong.

Worst part? The fact that they're almost certainly reviewing basic PDFs, when the original file formats were a dog's breakfast of random other crap, including potentially Excel and MS Access or other databases, is it wastes even more time. Why? All that shit has to go through conversion to get there -- the vendor has to tiff out the native files with imaging software like PeerNet + a managing frontend, then take the resulting tiffs and convert them with another program into PDFs. It. Is. SLOW. And judging from the filing, a good chunk of this is spreadsheet or DB type stuff, which produces borderline unreadable trash when tiffed out. It sounded like the database files were going to stay native, but I'd bet they went Maximum Clown and demanded the Excels to be tiffed out, because that's the most masochistic, stupidest move they could make, and that seems to be how the FDA is running their show.

Heh, I was thinking even worse than that. Like maybe they physically printed all those hundreds of thousands of pages, and then scanned them back in without OCR. After all, this is the federal government we're talking about, incompetence is their prime attribute.