Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

[SCSI]

Isn't that the thing with ivermectin? Unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't overdosing on it just make you shit and puke? That's kind of the reason the doomering over it was stupid, unless it was human ivermectin, which is different. Btw, those of you who've had covid, how was it? I had it and was shocked that it wasn't that bad, but my brother got it and he swore up and down he thought he was gonna die.

Spoiler: A Tale of Three Coofs

Not me, unless a weird cough-y cold around New Year 2020 was it (never tested), but three close family members had it (probably Wuhan or Alpha, based on the timeframe), all aged 60-65. 2 women (Mom and aunt, clean health), one man (stepdad, has pacemaker and history of multiple heart attacks). Aunt had a moderate flu-grade experience, heavy on spasmodic coughing and some loss of sense of taste for a few weeks. Mom had a severe flu-like experience that flirted with escalating into a pneumonia-type deal but stopped short of that. She had severe uncontrollable coughing fits, fatigue, and weakness that left her winded in the span of walking up and down a long driveway to get the mail, has since fully recovered strength and stamina. Also experienced total loss of sense of taste that took 2-3 months to fully return. She was probably patient zero in the household as she was doing most of the shopping. Stepdad experienced a mild cold, basically. No sensory problems, fine within a week. Corona-chan is a mercurial bitch.

 

[Leslie Nielsen]

More hilariously though, one of the vaccination sites in my hometown was shut down by the health department because Mexicans are too stupid to give the 5G jab to each other. They basically got slammed on everything they could- improperly storing vials, leaving vials out too long, not adhering to proper sanitary procedures during injection, giving the injections wrong, filling out cards wrong, filling out patient's information wrong, not putting records into the database in the appropriate timeframe or correctly, not report adverse effects. So now the city is desperately trying to track down everyone who was vaccinated at this site and wants to jab them AGAIN. To their shock and dismay, pretty much no one has come forth for this.

When they first started rolling out the shots and started training plebs to get them, I said fuck that shit, If I'm getting it, I'm gonna get it from my clinic, where they at least know how to jab you with a needle. All these stories about people getting the wrong doses and shit reaffirms my thoughts.

Not me, unless a weird cough-y cold around New Year 2020 was it (never tested), but three close family members had it (probably Wuhan or Alpha, based on the timeframe), all aged 60-65. 2 women (Mom and aunt, clean health), one man (stepdad, has pacemaker and history of multiple heart attacks). Aunt had a moderate flu-grade experience, heavy on spasmodic coughing and some loss of sense of taste for a few weeks. Mom had a severe flu-like experience that flirted with escalating into a pneumonia-type deal but stopped short of that. She had severe uncontrollable coughing fits, fatigue, and weakness that left her winded in the span of walking up and down a long driveway to get the mail, has since fully recovered strength and stamina. Also experienced total loss of sense of taste that took 2-3 months to fully return. She was probably patient zero in the household as she was doing most of the shopping. Stepdad experienced a mild cold, basically. No sensory problems, fine within a week. Corona-chan is a mercurial bitch.

It's really interesting to hear how differently if affects people. I had the cough for I'd say a month and I felt this horrible burning in my eyes, which I thought was exclusive to me, but my uncle said he had something like that too.

There is a thread for kiwis who have had Covid its interesting. Partner currently battling Covid - day 11 - he has gone from five day week gym goer muscular healthy eating to looking g like a frail old man. Unvaxed. Hoping we have turned a corner - 11 days of hell tbh. He still wouldnt get vaxxed he said and I still regret getting it (had to for work) https://kiwifarms.net/threads/kiwis-kissed-by-corona.67470/page-35#post-10497278

My union was opposed to forcing the vaxx on us but they strongly implied we should get it, including guilt tripping us with sob stories about people dying from covid. I cautiously got it but am still opposed to forcing it on people. It's funny having people act like I'm insane for believing in freedom of choice.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

Isn't that the thing with ivermectin? Unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't overdosing on it just make you shit and puke? That's kind of the reason the doomering over it was stupid, unless it was human ivermectin, which is different. Btw, those of you who've had covid, how was it? I had it and was shocked that it wasn't that bad, but my brother got it and he swore up and down he thought he was gonna die.

Spoiler: My Covid Tell All: Hitting Shelves 09/11/2022

Had it last month, not gonna lie it knocked me on my ass. I'm a young man who up until having covid was regularly active(running 2-3 miles every other day) My diet wasn't the best, but I was a healthy weight; really what I think did me in was the fact that I work third shift. I tried to get out in the sun on my days off, but even that probably wasn't enough, I've since been taking a myriad of vitamins.

When I had it the worst symptom I had was fatigue, I had absolutely no energy, I almost passed out while brushing my teeth that's how drained I was. Never had shortness of breath, or even a mild cough. The only other notable symptom was that my heart felt like it was going to beat out my chest just from walking 10 feet, took my pulse it was 125bpm, that's how I ended up getting a pcr.

Post covid I had an elevated baseline heart rate, precovid I could get my pulse down to the upper 50's if I really relaxed, afterwards the lowest I could get it was the lower 70's, and it seemed (at least to me) to be elevated beyond what it should've been just by walking around(talking like 130 from a slow walk). Pair that with some chest pain's (which may have been caused by a pinched nerve I had shortly before covid) and I was sperging about cardiac damage by the time I went to my physicians office. Needless to say all of my labs and scans came back in the clear.

Since that appointment I've been slowly working towards increasing my activity level to my precovid routine, my baseline pulse has basically dropped back to normal, and the chest pains seem to be completely random not correlating with increased activity at all. Really the only thing holding me back from resuming my normal routine after the initial 2 weeks of having it was my heart rate( and the accompanying paranoia on my part), I had very little if any lingering fatigue post covid. Even my heartrate issues probably had more to do with anxiety than any potential cardiac damage.

Here, have some nice reddit post's!

 

[Autistic Joe]

Isn't that the thing with ivermectin? Unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't overdosing on it just make you shit and puke? That's kind of the reason the doomering over it was stupid, unless it was human ivermectin, which is different. Btw, those of you who've had covid, how was it? I had it and was shocked that it wasn't that bad, but my brother got it and he swore up and down he thought he was gonna die.

Wife caught it in January, pre-vaxx, had a similar experience to @SCSI 's mom - flu-like symptoms, shortness of breath, fatigue, weak, loss of taste. She already has pre-existing breathing issues, and it turns out that one of her asthma meds (Budesonide) is pretty good at stifling the coof. Plus her doc prescribed some antibiotics, and otherwise the usual flu-remedies (fluids, rest, etc.) and gave her a Pulse Ox meter to keep an eye on. She was pretty ragged for about 2 weeks, then slowly got back to normal over the next month or so. Took a while to regain taste (and some flavors still don't register nearly a year later) as well as her strength.

Somehow I managed to either not catch it, or just had very mild symptoms. While she was sick I avoided her like the Literal Plague, and popped Mucinex and Tylenol like candy. I had a mild fever for about 2-3 days, but that's it.

 

[Leslie Nielsen]

Here, have some nice reddit post's!

That's weird, I've never seen anything about the vaxx causing tinnitus until today, and now I've seen it mentioned in three different forums.

Wife caught it in January, pre-vaxx, had a similar experience to @SCSI 's mom - flu-like symptoms, shortness of breath, fatigue, weak, loss of taste. She already has pre-existing breathing issues, and it turns out that one of her asthma meds (Budesonide) is pretty good at stifling the coof. Plus her doc prescribed some antibiotics, and otherwise the usual flu-remedies (fluids, rest, etc.) and gave her a Pulse Ox meter to keep an eye on. She was pretty ragged for about 2 weeks, then slowly got back to normal over the next month or so. Took a while to regain taste (and some flavors still don't register nearly a year later) as well as her strength.

Somehow I managed to either not catch it, or just had very mild symptoms. While she was sick I avoided her like the Literal Plague, and popped Mucinex and Tylenol like candy. I had a mild fever for about 2-3 days, but that's it.

The thing that universally seems to suck is the recovery time. I'd say I was pretty lucky that I got it in the summer, because I guarantee having that cough would've knocked me down since I'm working outside where the cold air already burns your lungs.

 

[SCSI]

That's weird, I've never seen anything about the vaxx causing tinnitus until today, and now I've seen it mentioned in three different forums.

The thing that universally seems to suck is the recovery time. I'd say I was pretty lucky that I got it in the summer, because I guarantee having that cough would've knocked me down since I'm working outside where the cold air already burns your lungs.

IIRC, can't tinnitus be affected by blood pressure or other vascular and other tissue inflammatory issues, especially if tissue in the sinuses or surrounding certain nerves becomes irritated? Since covid/spike irritates the vascular system and causes inflammation, that might be how it's happening, assuming those posters' stories are legit (it's the internet, everything is always Fake and Gay (TM) until proven otherwise).

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

Spoiler: My Covid Tell All: Hitting Shelves 09/11/2022

Had it last month, not gonna lie it knocked me on my ass. I'm a young man who up until having covid was regularly active(running 2-3 miles every other day) My diet wasn't the best, but I was a healthy weight; really what I think did me in was the fact that I work third shift. I tried to get out in the sun on my days off, but even that probably wasn't enough, I've since been taking a myriad of vitamins.

When I had it the worst symptom I had was fatigue, I had absolutely no energy, I almost passed out while brushing my teeth that's how drained I was. Never had shortness of breath, or even a mild cough. The only other notable symptom was that my heart felt like it was going to beat out my chest just from walking 10 feet, took my pulse it was 125bpm, that's how I ended up getting a pcr.

Spoiler: Possible Covid experience

I am older than you and also in generally good health and had a very similar experience early last summer. I got knocked on my ass for close to a MONTH, so tired that I couldn't do my desk job. For the first week to ten days I also had terrible body aches and a headache. No other symptoms at all. Declined the PCR test, so I guess we'll never know.

In other news, the PM of France got Covid. I don't wish anything bad to happen to the man but also cannot muster up a lot of sympathy either. English-language article attached. I don't know why it looks so fucked up.

[/SPOILER]

 

[borsabil]

Isn't that the thing with ivermectin? Unless I'm remembering wrong, doesn't overdosing on it just make you shit and puke? That's kind of the reason the doomering over it was stupid, unless it was human ivermectin, which is different. Btw, those of you who've had covid, how was it? I had it and was shocked that it wasn't that bad, but my brother got it and he swore up and down he thought he was gonna die.

The animal form is mixed in a substrate that acts as a strong emetic in the event of accidental ingestion by people. Basically in case farmer's kids decide to eat or drink the stuff it will make them vomit and shit it out. It's almost impossible to overdose on the animal formulated Ivermectin because of this. So when the MSM tells you that horse dewormer is super dangerous for humans the opposite is true. It's exactly the same drug as human Ivermectin except it's got an added safety feature.

Reminder for non deathfats take 15mg every 28 days as a preventative and take 15mg immediately on symptoms appearing and then every 48 hours until symptoms pass. Ivermectin WILL NOT alleviate symptoms but it will stop viral replication in your body so you don't end up in hospital or die. It works in a similar way to the new and approved Pfizermectin, except being a lot safer and a lot, lot cheaper.

 

[Joshuan Moon]

You don't even need to declare a major religion, actually, as a "religion of one" still counts. There's also Thomas v. Indiana, where a Jehovah Witness requested not to be made to make weapon parts by his employer and won his discrimination case, despite the Jehovah Witness faith not teaching that they cannot work in arms manufacturing.

I'm presuming they'll ask for specifics of my religion (which I plan on denying or being nonspecific). I'm also presuming they'll challenge me on examples of how my exemptions have affected my life in other areas. Other than that I don't know.

It's not like I'm asking for a lot here. All I've ever wanted was to be left alone.

Obviously for any verbal conversation treat it as a hostile encounter. Be defiant in your answers but not outwardly antagonistic in a way that could be used against you. Be deliberate with your answers, share as little as necessary, and keep the conversation focused on only what is required for them to know. That is: 1. the nature of your belief, 2. the sincerity of your belief, and 3. how your belief can be reasonably accommodated. Decline or steer away from any discussion about the validity or legitimacy of your belief.

Spoiler

1. Emphasize that your beliefs are of a religious AND personal nature. Decline to ascribe other people's beliefs to your own. They may use them to invalidate yours (the pope says it's ok, etc). You will have to articulate what the conflict is between your belief and the vaccination requirement. Obviously at this point you need to ask yourself if you're sincerely religiously opposed or just using religion as a cover because things will fall apart fast if you're not. If you are truly sincere then you'll have good confidence to state exactly what the issue is without throwing out every random objection you can in hopes that something sticks.

The abortion derived fetal cell objection is probably the strongest since it is a less novel argument and one that is fairly easy to make without having to rely on specific scripture. There's plenty of Catholic related writing on this you should read up on and learn some of the phrases they use that you can adopt. You'll probably be relying on religious conscience and the belief that use of the cells make the vaccine morally unconscionable. Exactly how you come to that conclusion would be up to you but it would be beneficial if you can articulate the connection between an abortion in the 70s and how you would end up sinning today because of it. Do not talk about the science of using abortion derived fetal cell lines but do understand which vaccines use which cell lines and how they are used in case they try to claim that there are no fetal cells in the vaccine and therefore you shouldn't have an issue (a misstatement of what the likely conflict with your religious belief is in order to argue your belief doesn't apply). Nothing says you have to be Catholic to make this argument but if you are then you can lean on that legitimacy a little bit since it is in line with established Catholic thought.

2. Sincerity is probably best shown by attesting that you have previously rejected other vaccines following the same belief you currently hold. If that isn't true then don't bring it up but if they do ask you would want to show that the belief itself is not new but that you learned information you were unaware of before and you cannot ignore your religious conscience now that you have this information.

If you are involved with Church activities, past or present then share that info. If you are not then steer the conversation back to belief. Practice is separate from belief but it can possibly help show sincerity so you'll have to tread carefully here. The risk might not be worth the reward.

If they try to challenge your sincerity by bringing up other medicines that may or may not use abortion derived fetal cells, don't play along. Just state that you have no knowledge that such a treatment may be morally objectionable and you will assess the morality of using such a treatment, consistent and in accordance with your sure judgement and religious conscience should you ever consider taking it.

3. Accommodation is the easy out for them. They can accept your belief but then claim they can't accommodate you due to cost or safety or whatever they can come up with. You should try to steer the conversation towards this topic since it isn't one full of landmines and is actually the important thing that you should care about discussing. Make it clear what you want is reasonable and safe. Personally I'm fond of rubbing in how masks, hygiene, and social distancing have kept us safe for over a year and that's just the science so that should be a reasonable action to take as an accommodation to be safe because masks work.

Remember you are not asking for an exemption but are instead working out a reasonable accommodation agreement because your religious belief requires you to not take the vaccine and the law requires them to accommodate your religious beliefs.

I haven't had this conversation myself so my guidance could be junk but that's more or less how I would approach it.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Covid lab leak theory blows wide open – leaked documents show samples WERE sent to Wuhan

THE THEORY that coronavirus started in a Wuhan laboratory has been supported by recently leaked documents.

www.express.co.uk

It's all so tedious.

 

[benutz]

Guise, guise... just cool it with all the invermectin talk mmkay? It's proven to not work. It's dangerous in fact. On no account should this horse de-worming compound be used by humans.

Ivermectin should NOT be given to NHS Covid patients because it makes 'no difference' to their illness and may even make them worse, new guidance says​

• Ivermectin should not be given to Covid-infected Britons, because it is unclear whether it works, NICE said
• Results from 18 trials show the drug did not reduce hospitalisations or deaths and increased side effects
• Ivermectin is already used in around 20 countries — including Greece, Bulgaria and Slovakia — to treat Covid
• But it is only licensed in the UK as a treatment for parasitic worms, head lice, scabies and rosacea
• Oxford University scientists are giving the drug to a group of volunteers as part of the PRINCIPLE trial
• NICE said it cannot currently recommend the drug, but ongoing trials may improve available evidence

Ivermectin should NOT be given to Covid patients because it makes 'no…

archived 23 Nov 2021 07:38:27 UTC

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See guise, ok, invermectin makes people 'worse'. That settles it. Just stop it already.


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Austrian Chancellor: 'You don’t only have rights, you have obligations'​

Austrian Chancellor: 'You don’t only have rights, you have obligation…

archived 23 Nov 2021 07:38:14 UTC

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Austrian Chancellor: 'You don’t only have rights, you have obligations'

The Chancellor of Austria, Alexander Schallenberg has told the BBC he is sorry that Austria has had to make Covid-19 vaccinations a legal requirement, but that the current low take-up rate is "too little, too late".

"Nobody wants the situation where you don’t get access to an intensive care unit bed because the beds are filled with people who did not get the vaccination and have Covid-19," he told Bethany Bell.

Are they really going to start fucking imprisoning people who refuse to get jabbed and can't pay a 5000 Euro fine? Then keep on imprisoning them when the fines go up and they still can't pay?

Also still waiting to hear of an official announcement by the German govt. - I guess that will come in the next few days as they fine tune what their punishments will be. Will it be hefty fines and/or imprisonment like the Austrians?

You know, if enough people don't get the jab, don't pay the fine and have to be imprisoned, there literally won't be enough space in their prisons. They'll have to start building camps. Camps I tell you, with little railroad tracks leading in and big signs on the entrance saying "Arbeit macht frei", and then they'll have to start de-lousing people with Xyklon B and shieet, so those dirty unvaxxed anti-vaxxers aren't a threat any more to good ordinary volk who are good bois and do as they are told.

Perhaps the Austrians can ask the Germans for advice on camp building, I mean, it's not like they aren't experts or whatever.

I also wonder how they plan to imprison people once fines aren't paid. Will it be police or military or hired goons that turn up at the doorstep to take you away? What about your children who are only 5 or 6 years old who rely on you, who have no other relatives? Will they go in to care or foster homes? Will you lose your job (if you already have one)? I mean, you can't just goof off work for 4/8 weeks can you. What about your elderly parent who you are the sole and main carer for? Who will look after them? Will they have to go in to a home?

So many questions. So many things to go wrong with the law of unintended consequences.

They either haven't really thought this through very thoroughly, or they have really thought this through very thoroughly. And either of those options worries me as much as the other.

 

[Meriasek]

>Not taking long relaxing shits and having a poop stool
>Not actually shitposting while you shit
>Not making truly abhorrent posts by crossing the border to Canada to shit in a bathroom that's heated by a natural hot spring

ishygddt. It's how you end up with hemroids. Get a poop stool if you literally can't drive across the border to a secret poop shed, poop stools will change how you shit.

Like the Squatty Potty?

 

[SCSI]

Like the Squatty Potty?

I have never wanted a Horrifying rating more in my life, and I post regularly on the SRS nightmare thread...

 

[benutz]

Does anyone know the best place to get invermectin in the UK? And the best form?

I know you've written at length about this Borsabil, but I'm just wondering if any bongs have had success in sourcing it. You can PM if you don't want to post publically.

I want to get it as much for my folks as for myself. I already have a pretty strong vitamin/mineral regime anyway.

If not, then I'll just go back and read Borsabil's posts again and do my own research. Just that I'd prefer it in ready pill form and the less faffing about the better, even if I have to pay a little more for them.

 

[fhqwhgads]

Does anyone know the best place to get invermectin in the UK? And the best form?

I know you've written at length about this Borsabil, but I'm just wondering if any bongs have had success in sourcing it. You can PM if you don't want to post publically.

I want to get it as much for my folks as for myself. I already have a pretty strong vitamin/mineral regime anyway.

If not, then I'll just go back and read Borsabil's posts again and do my own research. Just that I'd prefer it in ready pill form and the less faffing about the better, even if I have to pay a little more for them.

I got mine from Hyperdrug. I got Eqvalan, as it was the only one in stock at the time. It's absolutely fine, easy to dose, doesn't taste of much.

Make sure you're getting one with just ivermectin in.

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If you don't want to take horse paste, buy it in pill form from India Mart. Buy a bunch so the cost of shipping doesn't hit so hard.

ivermectin - IndiaMART

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They also carry Ziverdo kits (contains zinc and doxycycline in addition to ivermectin).

Ziverdo Kit at Best Price in India

Find here online price details of companies selling Ziverdo Kit. Get info of suppliers, manufacturers, exporters, traders of Ziverdo Kit for buying in India.

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[Protistology]

Are they really going to start fucking imprisoning people who refuse to get jabbed and can't pay a 5000 Euro fine? Then keep on imprisoning them when the fines go up and they still can't pay?

In other words, only the rich will end up unvaxxed. It's almost like things were planned this way from the beginning.

 

[borsabil]

No need to post the original, I'm sure you've read similar in a million other places.

However this lie is so blatant and so 'out there' it's actually impressive that this doctor is so brazen.

Here's the numbers from the UK's Covid 19 surveillance report

Of the 9831 people who required hospitalisation 67% of them were vaccinated

Of the 3676 people who died in the 4 week reporting period 81% of them were vaccinated.



In the UK around 95% of all over 60's are vaccinated

90% of all Covid deaths in the UK occur in the over 60's.

They've gone from hiding and fiddling with the data (look at the unlinked column) to now flat out lying and spreading disinformation.

 

[Nique la mere de Macron]

Does anyone know the best place to get invermectin in the UK? And the best form?

I know you've written at length about this Borsabil, but I'm just wondering if any bongs have had success in sourcing it. You can PM if you don't want to post publically.

I want to get it as much for my folks as for myself. I already have a pretty strong vitamin/mineral regime anyway.

If not, then I'll just go back and read Borsabil's posts again and do my own research. Just that I'd prefer it in ready pill form and the less faffing about the better, even if I have to pay a little more for them.

Also seeking this information in the EU. I've looked at a bunch of online pharmacies but nothing I've seen has filled me with confidence that I would actually receive the package.

 

[Yuri_]

In other words, only the rich will end up unvaxxed. It's almost like things were planned this way from the beginning.

I'm sure it's already been mentioned somewhere here before, but the threats of jail+fines is something that really stresses the need for people to form tightknit communities IRL for protection. Knowing a sympathetic doctor/nurse will undoubtedly be a massive asset, and maybe it will be the only way to avoid the clotshot in the coming years.

The system is no longer playing fair with you, so stop playing fair with it.


Edit: oh, and I don't mean go out and find that sole careless nurse that's giving out 20k fake doses to her town -- that's far too careless, and it will inevitably end up with some loudmouth moron spilling the secret and getting everyone caught. I'm talking about finding a doc that will only agree to help people they know very personally.

 

[Billy Beer]

Guise, guise... just cool it with all the invermectin talk mmkay? It's proven to not work. It's dangerous in fact. On no account should this horse de-worming compound be used by humans.

Ivermectin should NOT be given to NHS Covid patients because it makes 'no difference' to their illness and may even make them worse, new guidance says​

• Ivermectin should not be given to Covid-infected Britons, because it is unclear whether it works, NICE said
• Results from 18 trials show the drug did not reduce hospitalisations or deaths and increased side effects
• Ivermectin is already used in around 20 countries — including Greece, Bulgaria and Slovakia — to treat Covid
• But it is only licensed in the UK as a treatment for parasitic worms, head lice, scabies and rosacea
• Oxford University scientists are giving the drug to a group of volunteers as part of the PRINCIPLE trial
• NICE said it cannot currently recommend the drug, but ongoing trials may improve available evidence

Ivermectin should NOT be given to Covid patients because it makes 'no…

archived 23 Nov 2021 07:38:27 UTC

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See guise, ok, invermectin makes people 'worse'. That settles it. Just stop it already.


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Austrian Chancellor: 'You don’t only have rights, you have obligations'​

Austrian Chancellor: 'You don’t only have rights, you have obligation…

archived 23 Nov 2021 07:38:14 UTC

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Austrian Chancellor: 'You don’t only have rights, you have obligations'

The Chancellor of Austria, Alexander Schallenberg has told the BBC he is sorry that Austria has had to make Covid-19 vaccinations a legal requirement, but that the current low take-up rate is "too little, too late".

"Nobody wants the situation where you don’t get access to an intensive care unit bed because the beds are filled with people who did not get the vaccination and have Covid-19," he told Bethany Bell.

Are they really going to start fucking imprisoning people who refuse to get jabbed and can't pay a 5000 Euro fine? Then keep on imprisoning them when the fines go up and they still can't pay?

Also still waiting to hear of an official announcement by the German govt. - I guess that will come in the next few days as they fine tune what their punishments will be. Will it be hefty fines and/or imprisonment like the Austrians?

You know, if enough people don't get the jab, don't pay the fine and have to be imprisoned, there literally won't be enough space in their prisons. They'll have to start building camps. Camps I tell you, with little railroad tracks leading in and big signs on the entrance saying "Arbeit macht frei", and then they'll have to start de-lousing people with Xyklon B and shieet, so those dirty unvaxxed anti-vaxxers aren't a threat any more to good ordinary volk who are good bois and do as they are told.

Perhaps the Austrians can ask the Germans for advice on camp building, I mean, it's not like they aren't experts or whatever.

I also wonder how they plan to imprison people once fines aren't paid. Will it be police or military or hired goons that turn up at the doorstep to take you away? What about your children who are only 5 or 6 years old who rely on you, who have no other relatives? Will they go in to care or foster homes? Will you lose your job (if you already have one)? I mean, you can't just goof off work for 4/8 weeks can you. What about your elderly parent who you are the sole and main carer for? Who will look after them? Will they have to go in to a home?

So many questions. So many things to go wrong with the law of unintended consequences.

They either haven't really thought this through very thoroughly, or they have really thought this through very thoroughly. And either of those options worries me as much as the other.

When we all get put in camps, which one of the Great Escape characters do you want to roleplay as?