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For all the Omicron panic there's also something else to keep an eye on this weekend courtesy of Switzerland:
Swiss Health Minister Alain Berset is in a bit of bind.
With just under two-thirds of the population fully vaccinated, the Swiss have one of the lowest vaccination rates in Western Europe.
Now, Covid-19 infections are rising exponentially, with case numbers rising by 40% to 50% each week.
So is the health minister planning new restrictions, like neighbouring Germany, or even making vaccination mandatory, like Austria?
Not a bit of it. In fact, on Sunday, Switzerland votes on getting rid of some Covid restrictions altogether.
From the start of the pandemic the Swiss government has performed a tricky balancing act, trying to introduce measures to control the spread of Covid, while still staying true to Switzerland's system of direct democracy, in which the government has little formal power and the people have the final say.

Yes-campaign posters urge the Swiss not to forget to vote to back the Covid law
Switzerland's lockdowns were never as strict as its neighbours. People were allowed outside for exercise whenever they wanted and the schools only closed for a few weeks.

But last summer, with cases falling dramatically, Switzerland didn't have a celebratory, UK-style "freedom" day either.
Instead, a Covid certificate was introduced with proof of vaccination, negative test, or immunity through having had the virus. In September it became obligatory to enter bars, cafes, restaurants, cinemas, museums, sporting events, and face-to-face university classes.
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But not everyone agrees.
Vaccination has long been a sensitive issue here, especially in German-speaking Switzerland. A belief that natural immunity is best led to a drop in childhood measles vaccinations that sparked a surge in measles cases across Europe.
Meanwhile, in the alpine communities, a historic pride in their own independence rooted, some say, in the time when the mountain villages were cut off from the world each winter, means there is resistance to the government issuing orders.

Graphic showing infection rates in separate countries in Europe

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And so, when the certificate was introduced and Covid tests stopped being free, life for the unvaccinated became difficult and even going out for a beer was suddenly expensive.
The government hoped the measures would encourage people to get vaccinated. Instead, many took to the streets and others gathered enough signatures to challenge the Covid certificate in Sunday's referendum.
Demonstrators hold placards as they gather to protest against a planned coronavirus disease (COVID-19) law of the Swiss government in Zurich, Switzerland November 20, 2021
No campaigners this week urged voters to reject the Covid laws
For weeks there have been demonstrations. Some have turned violent, with police using water cannons and rubber bullets against protesters trying to storm parliament.
At a rally in Bern this month, thousands turned out to hear speakers, including renowned anti-vaxxer Robert Kennedy Jr, who hailed Switzerland as Europe's last great hope against what he claimed were sinister powers forcing people to get vaccinated, while at the same time, via the Covid certificate, introducing a draconian mass surveillance system.
Robert F Kennedy Junior has called on voters to challenge the Swiss anti-Covid measures

The crowd, huddled together, all mask-less, roared their approval.

Some wore the insignia of the far right, others the far left. Health minister Alain Berset was depicted, complete with red horns, as the devil.

Among the crowds was part-time student Manuela. She refuses to get vaccinated because, she says, she is "a healthy young woman" for whom getting the virus poses little risk.
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In fact, the World Health Organization advises that, while young people are less likely to be hospitalised with Covid-19, they are still susceptible to infection, and with it the risk of serious and long term health consequences.

Prepare the hospitals​

And so, for fear of increasing opposition to the Covid certificate, the health minister dare not introduce any new restrictions ahead of Sunday's crucial vote.
Mr Berset and his science taskforce are convinced Switzerland needs infection control measures during this increasingly bleak Covid winter. A vote to abolish the certificate, they believe, could be a huge risk, especially as booster vaccinations have scarcely begun.
Vaccination rates in Europe

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Instead, as cases rise, the government has advised hospitals to increase their intensive care capacity. This has brought a bitter laugh from Switzerland's nurses, who point out that extra beds won't help when there aren't enough staff to look after the patients in them.
It's estimated 10% of Swiss nurses and care workers have left the profession since the start of the pandemic.
"Everywhere we have too few staff," says Michèle Giroud, a nurse who's also president of the Swiss Federation of Nurse Anaesthetists. "We are constantly working without breaks, doing overtime, extra shifts. A third of us have burn-out symptoms: anxiety or insomnia."
But unlike in other European countries going through similar health sector shortages, Swiss nurses have the power to change things. They have gathered the signatures for a nationwide referendum demanding more investment and better working conditions.
On Sunday, Swiss voters will decide on that too.
Opinion polls suggest the pandemic has focused voters' minds on how important their health workers are - almost 70% say they will vote yes to the nurses' demands.
On the Covid certificate, things are a little tighter, but around 60% of voters look set to back keeping the certificate, and with it the restrictions.
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So, once Sunday's votes are counted, the health minister will return to the grim business of counting the rising Covid cases, and he is likely to start thinking about what new restrictions might be necessary. He may also have to count out around CHF8bn (£6bn) for Switzerland's nurses.
But the anger, fear, and social division born of the pandemic cannot be solved by a referendum or two, and the demonstrations are sure to continue, in Switzerland and across Europe.
Had no idea such a vote had been scheduled which shows just how hard international (especially American) media is burying such things. Probably shouldn't expect this referendum to succeed (though it would be incredible if it did), but the margins will be interesting to watch. Anything less than 60% in favour of restrictions means those vaccine requirements in Austria and most likely Germany are not going to go as smoothly as the technocrats want.
 
What would be an acceptable number of posts ? Let's say i joined 3 months ago ? 400 seems like too many but apparently 5 is too few ....

What's the perfect post ratio so I can follow it and keep you happy !
You can start by not accusing people of being secret sooper-spies for neg-rating posts, then going around addressing "all genuine posters" while yourself being a spastic newfag
 
If you are that durp you can't address me like an adult, don't quote me, don't react too my posts period !

You don't see me disliking posts like a child, because if I have a problem I'll quote you and tell you, I'm not a fake person like that...





What would be an acceptable number of posts ? Let's say i joined 3 months ago ? 400 seems like too many but apparently 5 is too few ....

What's the perfect post ratio so I can follow it and keep you happy !
Ah, if I were in your position, I would just take the L and learn from it. The openness to facing ideas that go against the grain you admire here also makes this a place that pulls no punches. Everyone makes a fool of themselves from time to time. The thing we most learn from the exhibits on this site is not dig your grave deeper in an attempt to save face.

People overreacting to stickers is why we lost all the fun ones here and have a hugbox dislike. It's not the end of the world and will generally wash out if you try to be thoughtful most of the time.
 
Everyone is going to lock down over this new variant aren't they? I can already see how the tone/messaging has shifted in less than a day. Travels bans starting and conversations about if we'll need lockdowns (the answer for these people is always yes).

I try not to be a doomer, but there really is no way out of this. I don't see one at this point.
It's really only a matter of time until we're back at square zero, covid will mutate faster than they can come up with new therapies for the thing. This was going to happen sooner or later. Lockdowns 100% guaranteed if the new variant causes vaccine enhanced disease. How would it be any other way? That would be the only way to try and cover up their screw up.

On a positive note, it's probably weaker than delta, and therefore will be even more a nothingburger, people might 🌈🌈🌈 see it this time, and.....haha no they won't, who am I kidding. I did however place a small bet with friends on whether we would have a lockdown for Christmas. I bet we weren't, I don't want to lose my $20 bucks, but it will probably be only worth$18.65 by the time Christmas rolls around due to inflation.
 
LMAO, they have to call it Omicron because they know "Nu Variant" wouldn't work as well as a marketing term. If they called it Nu Variant, they might have trouble marketing the Holiday 2022 variant of the scamdemic next year plus it reminds people of shit like Nu Coke and Nu Metal that nobody likes. And of course they can't call it Xi since that would hurt poor Chairman Xi's feelings!

You couldn't write a parody of dystopian movies or pandemic movies better than the IRL scamdemic, it's simply not possible.
 
Spoke with the parental units. One amusing thing is when they call, they don't turn down their TV, because fuck you, they shouldn't have to stop watching TV to have a phone call with someone else, you'll just need to speak louder to be heard over the 7.2 surround sound system running at 75db, and get really good at picking their voices out of a crowd. While on a phone call. Guess I can't complain, since I'd rather communicate over text than phone anyway.

Well, as usual, it was the news this time. And yeah, they're in full panic mode. "Experts are saying this COVID variant can infiltrate the human body and modify human cells to create new copies of itself. And that it has, through selective pressure, found ways to avoid the defenses of the human body -- even the fully vaccinated human body -- has to prevent this."

... The coffee hasn't kicked in, but am I wrong in thinking that CNN or MSNPC or whatever bullshit they had on is literally scaring the Wuv Da Science crowd by describing the basic functions of virus reproduction?
With the right wording, you can make anything sound bad.
LMAO, they have to call it Omicron because they know "Nu Variant" wouldn't work as well as a marketing term. If they called it Nu Variant, they might have trouble marketing the Holiday 2022 variant of the scamdemic next year plus it reminds people of shit like Nu Coke and Nu Metal that nobody likes. And of course they can't call it Xi since that would hurt poor Chairman Xi's feelings!

You couldn't write a parody of dystopian movies or pandemic movies better than the IRL scamdemic, it's simply not possible.
I was making a joke about Xi and it being a deep running conspiracy. How the fuck did it turn out to be true.
 
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Please enlighten me please :) a positive constructive conversation would be nice


Lol, when did I say bullying !? I'm bitching that these kids don't have a response, yet wanna criticize me ? it's pathetic !

It would be like telling Justin Bieber he can't sing, then when he challenges you too do better ? You troll him, make lame jokes and avoid the issue...you sure showed him !

If you are that durp you can't address me like an adult, don't quote me, don't react too my posts period !

You don't see me disliking posts like a child, because if I have a problem I'll quote you and tell you, I'm not a fake person like that...





What would be an acceptable number of posts ? Let's say i joined 3 months ago ? 400 seems like too many but apparently 5 is too few ....

What's the perfect post ratio so I can follow it and keep you happy !
Just stop. You are so fucking embarrassing. What does any of this drivel actually have to do with covid?
 
Ah, if I were in your position, I would just take the L and learn from it. The openness to facing ideas that go against the grain you admire here also makes this a place that pulls no punches. Everyone makes a fool of themselves from time to time. The thing we most learn from the exhibits on this site is not dig your grave deeper in an attempt to save face.

People overreacting to stickers is why we lost all the fun ones here and have a hugbox dislike. It's not the end of the world and will generally wash out if you try to be thoughtful most of the time.

I love you, but that's a cowardly way too live,

don't address your problems, ignore them and focus on posting cute little memes...FOR INTERNET CLOUT.

...that'll stop the lockdowns and vaccinations ...lol

Bro if your house is flooding, ignoring the problem isn't going too make the problem go away, same philosophy with this shit

And that's why the government will always win, they know people are lazy and unwilling too take any risks..

Calm down newfag
I haven't spent my whole life in this site !? I guess my opinion doesn't mean jack shit, thanks for reminding me !

I'll only let people with 500 posts in 4 days speak for me from now on !

You can start by not accusing people of being secret sooper-spies for neg-rating posts, then going around addressing "all genuine posters" while yourself being a spastic newfag

Lol 🤣 this might just be the dumbest response yet,

you're actually claiming the government have no presence on the internet !? and they certainly don't pay people too post misinformation.....I hope for you sake you're like 80 or something...and this is your first time using the internet...that would be understandable

How's the weather in Langley?
At first I thought this was yet another childish dig at the south...you know...like leftist do..

But now I see you're claiming I'm the snitch ? Bro ...I'm the one encouraging people too stand their ground...while you scream shut up and get your booster... the government said so !!!!

how does that help the government mr hurp durp !?

Try harder next time, please
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
Using a very common meme...why not just call me racist and be done with it ? It's just as lazy but has a bit more punch

In short 0/10 response next time hit me with the " I know you are but what am I"

It's a bit more creative 😉

Just stop. You are so fucking embarrassing. What does any of this drivel actually have to do with covid?

Um ? I was talking about covid until INTERNET CLOUT CHASER'S started spamming dislikes... actually inform yourself on a situation before commenting on it please ...
I mean, it's how Trump became president
Yeah man trump's a racist his a bigot big time !!! the television told me !

I never watch Fox news, it's racist !

No ! I'm Mr CNN !!! I TiVo anything I miss...

Imagine hating someone because the t.v told you too ....I'd rather kill myself...
 
Just a heads up too genuine posters on this site, flea man is a plant, he disliked all my posts like a child because I said something mean about the government he didn't like...

If that isn't a leftist !? I don't know what is !?

So let me ask you this, if reddit bans trump supporters like it's their job, why aren't troll leftist banned from here ? They literally have a million sites they could use..

The right on the other hand !? This is literally the only place left too post, I feel that says more than I ever could about the current political situation
This site doesn't discriminate based on political beliefs. It discriminates on how retarded you act.
 
Please do,
Sincerely
Us oldfags
Got nothing else too say ? Shit If I was an internet clout chaser, I'd actually put effort into my posts

Btw none of the other members are going too have sex with you...get an app bro...

This site doesn't discriminate based on political beliefs. It discriminates on how retarded you act.
Really because the more i push the more leftist the site becomes...

...bringing this full circle, I was talking about this last night ....

real life tough guys who in private will say "fuck covid" "fuck the government"

But publicly they are getting injected and following all the rules...

You will never be me bro, stop pretending too be !

I know you want the internet clout, but you're going too have too stick up for homosexuals instead ...this anti government shit aint for you ..

Someone called for an app?
A leftist homosexual app where lame asses who post ignorant shit like " sir this is a Wendy's" can get laid !!

I've always been told the left can't meme, this is my first time seeing it in person...
 
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Imagine still caring about Covid and acting like it impacts your life in the slightest.

We really need a WW3. We need to go to war, and not via your domestic army's Microsoft™ Drone Simulator 2021™. We need to know real suffering, and not just delayed Amazon Prime deliveries or excessive Uber Eats purchases. That's the problem with us, we have nothing now except Covid and pseudo-racism to latch onto to justify our existence. Sad!
 
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