Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

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I confuse the regulatory alphabet soup agencies all the time, so the odds I mixed up the FDA and USDA are like... 98,5%.

Someone I was discussing this with said Australia and Japan have some of the highest quality standards for beef. Do you know anything about this?

I'm not on the regulatory side. I do small time/sustainable poultry farming and have family that do cattle, goat, and fish farming, so it's very cool to have someone who can speak to the end point of the animals. I'm way more familiar with the starting point.


Can you provide some links or extra information for these grey cows? I went and looked into it and was only able to find some stuff from 2007 about the genetic modification and cloning of Mad Cow Disease resistant cows. I'd love more information on this!

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They are less efficient than modern breeds, taking twice the time to raise for slaughter. So you are trading durability for lack of efficiency.

Not useful for big industries, but if you got land and just want meat for your kin...
 


They are less efficient than modern breeds, taking twice the time to raise for slaughter. So you are trading durability for lack of efficiency.

Not useful for big industries, but if you got land and just want meat for your kin...

I very much enjoyed looking into these, and was sad to see they are yet another heritage breed on the verge of extinction due to the move over to industrial farming following WW II. If you are interested in learning about more heritage breeds or the way WW II impacted agriculture, I can toss out some resources. If you like farming or animal related things, it's a super fascinating subject.

Also, as per my usual way of posting, I am going to drop this totally unrelated thing here. I will probably cross-post it into the supply chain thread as well, but I see no harm in talking about it as much as possible.

I've repeatedly drawn attention to Biden tapping the Strategic Petroleum Reserves and shipping all the oil to China and India. I present another example of Biden funneling resources into China. Biden is doing this all under the guise of 'repairing the United States economy' after the WuFlu trashed it. The same WuFlu which just, incidentally, handed him the presidency.

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3 Chip Stocks To Watch As The Semiconductor Shortage Worsens​

By Michael Kern - Nov 28, 2021, 4:00 PM CST

A global shortage in semiconductor chips has been wreaking havoc on the tech sector, automotive industry, consumer electronics industry, and everything in between thanks to massive supply chain snarl ups. The global Covid-induced supply crunch for chips has badly hurt production across a number of industries, ranging from cars to consumer appliances, smartphones and personal computers. The trade war between the United States and China has only served to make a bad situation worse.

About a year ago, the U.S. Commerce Department declared Chinese chip manufacturer Semiconductor Manufacturing International, or SMIC, persona non grata after determining the company supplies the Chinese military with chips thus making it a threat to national security. The federal government restricted SMIC from obtaining some U.S.-regulated chip-making equipment leading to U.S. buyers cutting back orders from the company. SMIC is one of the largest manufacturers of semiconductor chips, accounting for about 5% of global semiconductor supply. Although the Biden administration recently granted SMIC and Huawei suppliers billions of dollars worth of licenses from November through April that allows them to sell them goods and technology despite their remaining on the U.S. trade blacklist, it remains to be seen if the move will ease the shortages.

The alarming part: Some experts expect the supply chain glitches to drag on into 2022.

But whereas the global chip shortage has been a nightmare for businesses that make cars and home appliances as well as people who buy them, semiconductor stock investors are hardly complaining as they continue to see outsized gains on their investments.
For instance, shares of gaming and auto chip manufacturer Nvidia Corp. (NASDAQ:NVDA) have gained 40% over the past 30 days; those of smartphone chip maker Qualcomm Inc. (NASDAQ:QCOM) are up 38% while those of computer chip maker Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (NASDAQ:AMD) have added 25%.

Overall, the biggest semiconductor benchmark, iShares PHLX SOX Semiconductor Sector Index ETF (NASDAQ:SOXX) is up 15% over the past months compared to a modest 4% gain by the S&P 500.

JPMorgan is headed up by Jamie Dimon, who is a major Democratic donor and occasionally gets floated as a candidate to head up the Federal Reserve whenever a Democrat gets elected. I'm sure there's no way they would conspire to do some price fixing/insider trading in order to take advantage of any disasters opportunities the Chinese create for them.
Investment bank JPMorgan is recommending that investors pursue longer-term trends in the semiconductor space that are more structural than cyclical. Structural trends tend to be longer-term, permanent changes in an industry whereas cyclical trends are influenced by the business cycle and tend to be short-lived.

JPM recommends investing in very high-end computing segments, noting there’s ongoing disruption in high-end computing globally, which used to be very monolithic but is now being fragmented as more companies enter the space.
 
Feudalism has been replaced by Capitalism, now Capitalism will be replaced by what? It cannot be Socialism... We still have personal pleasures in life, Socialism could've worked if us as humans worked and thought like ants. But we're humans, so that's out of question.

About that, what if "The Great Reset" is one of many solutions "the elites" have planned because they knew we'd end up like this?
 
Feudalism has been replaced by Capitalism, now Capitalism will be replaced by what? It cannot be Socialism... We still have personal pleasures in life, Socialism could've worked if us as humans worked and thought like ants. But we're humans, so that's out of question.

About that, what if "The Great Reset" is one of many solutions "the elites" have planned because they knew we'd end up like this?
What "they" (whoever "they" might be - my money's on giant, tripod-driving, alien squid) want is a sort of technocratic feudalism, where everyone is bound to a role that they can never leave, hemmed in by endless rules that are strictly enforced by mindless artificial "intelligence".
 
What "they" (whoever "they" might be - my money's on giant, tripod-driving, alien squid) want is a sort of technocratic feudalism, where everyone is bound to a role that they can never leave, hemmed in by endless rules that are strictly enforced by mindless artificial "intelligence".

So an upgrade conpared to California!
 
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Feudalism has been replaced by Capitalism, now Capitalism will be replaced by what? It cannot be Socialism... We still have personal pleasures in life, Socialism could've worked if us as humans worked and thought like ants. But we're humans, so that's out of question.

About that, what if "The Great Reset" is one of many solutions "the elites" have planned because they knew we'd end up like this?
Read on collapse of civilizations . The great reset bs is combination of senile elites getting high on their supply and last ditch attempt to hold on to power before hungry and angry hordes of men come banging on their mansions demanding blood . Usa is already on the verge of civil war . The sides are taken ,lines are drawn and people just wait for the first blood to drop and start slaughtering themselves.

Now what is the aftermath is usually the democracy is first to go the large rent seeking class to disappear and the extra burden on the productive class with it disappears also but so does the order , protection from famine and bandits disappear also . So make what you will from it.
 
Feudalism has been replaced by Capitalism, now Capitalism will be replaced by what? It cannot be Socialism... We still have personal pleasures in life, Socialism could've worked if us as humans worked and thought like ants. But we're humans, so that's out of question.

About that, what if "The Great Reset" is one of many solutions "the elites" have planned because they knew we'd end up like this?
Feudalism replaced the late Roman interventionist economy in Western Europe, which in turn replaced the mixed capitalism of the Principate and the kleptocracy of the Republic. Of course, the story was quite different in the Eastern empire, and manorialism never really caught on in much of Northern and Eastern Europe until the late middle ages, if ever. It's all stuff to act like the history of France applies directly to everywhere else.

Marxist "history" is about discarding anything that doesn't fit the narrative.
 
Read on collapse of civilizations . The great reset bs is combination of senile elites getting high on their supply and last ditch attempt to hold on to power before hungry and angry hordes of men come banging on their mansions demanding blood . Usa is already on the verge of civil war . The sides are taken ,lines are drawn and people just wait for the first blood to drop and start slaughtering themselves.

Now what is the aftermath is usually the democracy is first to go the large rent seeking class to disappear and the extra burden on the productive class with it disappears also but so does the order , protection from famine and bandits disappear also . So make what you will from it.
I have a couple theories on the Great Reset but I can try and kind of mash them together:

- Many of the elites are smart, most of the young money elites are smart. All elites generally employ the smartest people on Earth. Literal rooms filled with brainiacs and mathematicians. This is to clarify that I think the elites see things coming sooner than the rest of the world, and with a higher degree of confidence.
- Running the numbers on world population growth rates has shown them that we are heading inexorably towards exhaustion of the world's natural resources. No I am not talking about climate change. Climate change is both real and also not a going concern. I'm talking about things like arable farmland and phosphate depletion. There is nothing more uncontrollable than a hungry populace
- The elites believe themselves as both above the population and as shephards of the population due to their inherent worth
- The elites desire to both preserve their wealth and power, most having been handed vast fortunes from a long line of predecessors that have taught them to do so and earned those vast sums through hard work and determination and it would be an offense to their lineage to squander it
- The world IS going through a fourth industrial revolution--the microprocessor is an exponentially bigger jump than the printing press
- If they do not control the digital revolution, their power will whither and fade. If they do not control the population, their power will wither and fade.
- The elites believe they have a limited number of years in which to manage a great number of changes all at once and only by carefully balancing a number of things extremely carefully can they both preserve their wealth and their power
- The Internet and digital technology is the greatest potential source of centralized rule ever devised in the history of humanity
- The elites know, from both their long history as families of rulers, and groups of loosely affiliated rulers, that their real power is soft. They have no actual capability to conduct warfare against even a small percentage of a determined adversary. They know that manipulating thought is a force multiplier for their application of their power

I mean, this is all kinda obvious.

If you put all these things together what do you get? You get the current events of today.

Also, a somewhat-related side note: I think it's possible that one unintended side effect of the invention of Bitcoin is that it has triggered all this. It's a guarantee that the elites put some of their people into doing due-dilligence on the technology underpinning blockchain and when their guys reported back to them that the technology was functionality legit, they collectively freaked out. Controlling money is their OLDEST tactic for maintaining power and wealth, and here is a new form of money that they do not control and do not own significant portions of. This had to have come as quite a shock, and there is a chance that it made them realize that humanity was not only on the precipice of all of the resource depletion problems, but also on the precipice of an entirely new monetary system that did not include them. This would have spurred them into serious, coordinated, immediate action. This may explain why some of the events of the last two years have seemed rushed and uncoordinated--because they were.
 
I have a couple theories on the Great Reset but I can try and kind of mash them together:

- Many of the elites are smart, most of the young money elites are smart. All elites generally employ the smartest people on Earth. Literal rooms filled with brainiacs and mathematicians. This is to clarify that I think the elites see things coming sooner than the rest of the world, and with a higher degree of confidence.
- Running the numbers on world population growth rates has shown them that we are heading inexorably towards exhaustion of the world's natural resources. No I am not talking about climate change. Climate change is both real and also not a going concern. I'm talking about things like arable farmland and phosphate depletion. There is nothing more uncontrollable than a hungry populace
- The elites believe themselves as both above the population and as shephards of the population due to their inherent worth
- The elites desire to both preserve their wealth and power, most having been handed vast fortunes from a long line of predecessors that have taught them to do so and earned those vast sums through hard work and determination and it would be an offense to their lineage to squander it
- The world IS going through a fourth industrial revolution--the microprocessor is an exponentially bigger jump than the printing press
- If they do not control the digital revolution, their power will whither and fade. If they do not control the population, their power will wither and fade.
- The elites believe they have a limited number of years in which to manage a great number of changes all at once and only by carefully balancing a number of things extremely carefully can they both preserve their wealth and their power
- The Internet and digital technology is the greatest potential source of centralized rule ever devised in the history of humanity
- The elites know, from both their long history as families of rulers, and groups of loosely affiliated rulers, that their real power is soft. They have no actual capability to conduct warfare against even a small percentage of a determined adversary. They know that manipulating thought is a force multiplier for their application of their power

I mean, this is all kinda obvious.

If you put all these things together what do you get? You get the current events of today.

Also, a somewhat-related side note: I think it's possible that one unintended side effect of the invention of Bitcoin is that it has triggered all this. It's a guarantee that the elites put some of their people into doing due-dilligence on the technology underpinning blockchain and when their guys reported back to them that the technology was functionality legit, they collectively freaked out. Controlling money is their OLDEST tactic for maintaining power and wealth, and here is a new form of money that they do not control and do not own significant portions of. This had to have come as quite a shock, and there is a chance that it made them realize that humanity was not only on the precipice of all of the resource depletion problems, but also on the precipice of an entirely new monetary system that did not include them. This would have spurred them into serious, coordinated, immediate action. This may explain why some of the events of the last two years have seemed rushed and uncoordinated--because they were.
Firstly population everywhere outside of dozen countries is leveling off via fertility rates below replacement or already shrinking. UN revised this year that the population will be between 9.3 bilion and 10 billion in 2100 if my memory serves me right decade before that when we hit 7 bilion UN was going on how overpopulation will be a problem and we will be 11 bilion now not so much its actually in reverse elites especially the American have their panties in a bunch because almost all latin american countries have fertility rates bellow replacement and with that goes the cheap indentured labour they love to bring in here. Just read any articles how they decry about less workers to coonsoom in the future.

Second: READ LIMITS TO GROWTH IF YOU ARE THAT FUCKING LAZY READ THE MIT STUDY THAY CONFIRMED THAT WE ARE ON W3 BUSINESS AS USUAL TRAJECTORY . COMPUTERS AND INTERNET ARE VERY RESOURCE INTENSIVE WHAT WE ARE HAVING IS DEINDUSTRIALIZATION NOT FOURTH INDUSTRIAL WAVE . YOU WOULD THINK YOU WOULD HAVE GOT THE POINT WITH CHIP SHORTAGE THAT WE ARE THIRD YEAR IN YOU WOULD GET IT.

third : no scientists aren't in the elites and btw those who get into think tanks and various organizations are more used cars salesman's type than actual braniacs who actually are able to do something of use. Just take a look at the vaccine shenanigans almost all of them are political hacks parading are scientists . So no the science tm won't save you. The elites are the political leaders who set the policy and wield most of the power which right now consists of old senile people literally running this show .

I hate to break it to you but nobody is in charge and yes we are screwed. There is no some semblance of an order coming after this for a long time . Welcome to the dark ages.
 
That's just incorrect. This is world population:

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GROWTH is slowing, and that may be very well and good to the elites (and may have been spurred by their actions).

no scientists aren't in the elites
That is not a claim that I made.
 
What is VIX and why is it uh oh?
Market volatility index. Anything under 20 is "normalish" and anything above is "freakoutish"

08 crash VIX was at 60, COVID crash VIX was at 65 or so (though I swear to god at the time it hit like 85). I think Yahoo Finance is being weird. Anyway, anything under 30 is usually a nothingburger, anything above 30 is significant-ish.
 
That's just incorrect. This is world population:

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GROWTH is slowing, and that may be very well and good to the elites (and may have been spurred by their actions).


That is not a claim that I made.

O please if they wanted the population growth to slow down they would have pushed for abortion legalization via the Catholic church in Latin America long before the feminists and local NGO's pushed for it this decade . They wouldn't also fed fucking African population from 350 milion to over a bilion via various food aid charities you can literally see it in the demographics chart the acceleration of population growth the minute it hit save africa charities arriving there. All that for sweet cheap labour.

Read limits to growth and then the 2019 mit study we are on w3 world scenario and currently at peak population and its downward slope . Then come back here .

The scientists who have the elites ears are hacks anyone worth their salt got teared to pieces by the sjws in the Universities, there is another writing that explains why shit is hitting the fan that you need to read and explains very well my elites are fucking senile theory

 
That article is just a big rant about university wokeness. I don't disagree but I don't think it's treading any new ground.

As for population--we have to agree to disagree. People continue to eat every day, I believe the perceived threat of resource exhaustion is more dire than just allowing things to flat-line. If we take what folks like the Davos crowd has intimated, they're more concerned in an extreme decimation of population over a short timespan--billions of people.

Abortion is a rounding error if you apply the USA rates to the entire world.

The scientists who have the elites ears are hacks anyone worth their salt got teared to pieces by the sjws in the Universities,

I am not talking about academics. I am talking about more like mathematicians, quants, etc. Rich people hire smart people. They don't hire wokie blue-hairs.

You might disagree with my thesis--and I welcome a debate, but you're not giving me points that convince me that it's incorrect, or that it fails to make a good case for explaining current events.
 
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If the current trend continues you have no chance.

What I suspect will happen though, is a massive crash (30-50% or more stock market drop) which will depress housing prices. However, I believe the Fed is intentionally trying to crash the economy and a correction does not align with that goal, so if I am right and there is a huge crash then you should immediately jump on the opportunity before the inflationary spiral picks up pace again as the Fed drops money from a helicopter.
That’s my main concern too. If they were just incompetent, you’d expect them to do the right thing or deescalate sometimes by pure fucking accident now and then.
 
That’s my main concern too. If they were just incompetent, you’d expect them to do the right thing or deescalate sometimes by pure fucking accident now and then.
Corruption breeds incompetence, and you can see it everywhere you look.

But the rulers are the top are not incompetent, they didn't get there via incompetence. In fact, I would posit you or I don't even know who most of them are.
 
O please if they wanted the population growth to slow down they would have pushed for abortion legalization via the Catholic church in Latin America long before the feminists and local NGO's pushed for it this decade . They wouldn't also fed fucking African population from 350 milion to over a bilion via various food aid charities you can literally see it in the demographics chart the acceleration of population growth the minute it hit save africa charities arriving there. All that for sweet cheap labour.

Read limits to growth and then the 2019 mit study we are on w3 world scenario and currently at peak population and its downward slope . Then come back here .

The scientists who have the elites ears are hacks anyone worth their salt got teared to pieces by the sjws in the Universities, there is another writing that explains why shit is hitting the fan that you need to read and explains very well my elites are fucking senile theory


These are all good points.

What we also forget is that we can make organic matter out of inorganic.
But building hydroponics, desalinazing water, all that, maybe worth it if it is in Israel, but not in Apefrika.

The moment we reach fusion and asteroid mining, there will be plenty of resources for benevolent Xi to lord over.
 
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