US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
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From my favorite rag, The Atlantic:

The Overlooked Factor in Biden’s Unpopularity​

BROOKLYN—Outside the Park Slope Food Coop in one of America’s bluest bulwarks, masked shoppers still wait outside in socially distant lines. The 48-year-old co-op is perhaps the nation’s most political—and progressive—grocery store, but on a recent Friday afternoon, its members were not particularly eager to discuss the man nearly all of them voted for last year: President Joe Biden.

“He seems to be keeping his head above water, but he’s just treading water,” Kat Egan, a 56-year-old leadership coach, told me as she headed in for her monthly return to the co-op after leaving Brooklyn for upstate New York earlier in the pandemic. “Everything seems kind of mediocre.”

Biden, you might have heard, is none too popular across the country at the moment. Eleven months into his tenure, his 42 percent approval rating, according to Gallup, is lower than that of any other recent president except Donald Trump, who never commanded majority support during his four-year term. Biden has even dropped to Trump-like levels in the upper 30s in some recent polls; far from rebounding, his public standing has further eroded in the months since he presided over a chaotic and widely panned withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the emergence of the Delta variant dashed hopes that the pandemic was ending. The president’s rating has ticked up a bit in a few recent polls, but the Omicron variant, which is now spreading faster than any previous coronavirus wave, could quickly snuff out any lingering optimism about the pandemic, and with it, the chances for a full Biden recovery this winter.

The most glaring explanation for the president’s slide is that finicky independents—the nation’s perennial swing voters—have deserted him. In a recent survey conducted by Marist for NPR, Biden’s approval rating with this cohort stood at just 37 percent; in April, by comparison, 52 percent of independents backed the president’s performance in the same poll, a number that nearly matched his overall approval rating in the survey of 54 percent.

Yet recent surveys have also picked up a distinct softening of support for the president on the left. Biden was riding highest in the polls in the spring, around the 100-day mark of his presidency. Congressional Democrats had just passed his $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan and sent $1,400 checks to millions; COVID case counts were plummeting as vaccines became widely available. Among Democrats, Biden’s approval rating in the spring stood in the mid-90s, but in several recent polls, it has fallen into the low 80s. The drop among self-identified liberals was even bigger—just 66 percent approved of the president’s performance in a recent Monmouth poll, compared with 88 percent in April.

Throughout Trump’s tumultuous tenure, political reporters in search of the president’s blue-collar base trekked out to Midwest and Rust Belt diners so frequently that the articles they produced inspired their own parodies. To investigate the roots of Biden’s Democratic discontent, I ventured to pockets of Brooklyn where his 2020 vote was nearly unanimous. The Park Slope Food Coop is a Brooklyn institution renowned (and to some, notorious) for its rules—members must work shifts to access the store’s discount prices—and its progressive politics. In the precincts around the co-op, about 95 percent of voters cast their ballot for Biden. He was not the first choice for many of them—the most popular Democrats early in the primary were Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

What I found among this heavily white, mostly college-educated set was not so much anger as ennui. When I asked co-op members how they thought Biden was doing, the most common response was a sigh and a one-word “Fine” that sounded more exasperated than enthusiastic. “He’s up against a lot,” Jennifer Percival, a 42-year-old speech pathologist, told me. “We’re just trying to hang in there with him.”

My thoroughly unscientific survey uncovered no mass exodus from Biden’s corner in Park Slope. Some progressives said he had even exceeded their expectations, citing an agenda that was more ambitious than Biden had initially campaigned on, as well as the passage of the COVID relief bill and the more recent bipartisan infrastructure package. Others blamed the media for the president’s unpopularity and noted that much of what ails Biden—the COVID resurgence, inflation, Democratic infighting—is out of his control. “I don’t think Joe Biden can do much about Joe Manchin,” Abraham Pollack, a 38-year-old jazz musician, told me. “A lot of people on the left wanted him to deliver the world to them,” he said, “but he can only do so much.”

Of the 20 people who agreed to be interviewed over the course of an afternoon, not one said they disapproved of Biden’s performance. But there were more subtle shifts that offered hints of a broader trend that national polls could be detecting. A few progressives said they were unsure about Biden’s performance, after being much more supportive in the spring, and many others said they approved of the president but felt less hopeful about him—and about the country—than they did earlier in the year. “I’m not feeling very good about the country,” said Bill Gross, 76, a retired psychiatrist. “Things haven’t changed.”

The white, financially comfortable progressives of Park Slope, where the median listed home price is $1.5 million, are hardly representative of Biden’s urban base, so I next headed farther out in Brooklyn, to East Flatbush, a predominantly Black neighborhood where many precincts voted overwhelmingly for the president. There, too, Democrats remained supportive of Biden overall. “I like Joe. At least he’s trying,” Michelle Lynch, a 54-year-old nurse, told me. But they were quicker to voice ambivalence or dissatisfaction in his performance. Few people were paying close attention to the legislative wrangling on Capitol Hill—none mentioned the Build Back Better Act by name, and only one cited the Senate filibuster as something she wanted Biden to tackle. But multiple Democrats in East Flatbush brought up student loans, saying they were disappointed that the president had not acted to forgive them, as progressives like Warren have lobbied him to.

Lisa Ellison, 48 and a home-health aide, described her opinion of Biden as “borderline.” “Everything he said he was going to do for us he hasn’t done,” she told me as she headed into a Target. Ellison, a resident of Bedford-Stuyvesant, recalled feeling better about Biden earlier in the year after receiving a stimulus check. “We need more of those,” she said, “especially with food and prices going up.”

New York City’s progressive bent is easy to overstate: In last year’s mayoral election, Democrats favored a former police officer and party insider, Eric Adams, over candidates who ran more aggressively to the left. In some ways, Adams followed the path pursued by Biden, who also prevailed over more liberal rivals. “Biden seemed like the right person for the moment,” Jeannie Segall, 67, a retired health-care worker, told me outside the Park Slope Food Coop. “I’m fearful of the right, but I’m also fearful of the left shooting us in the foot and handing us over to the right.”

Biden doesn’t have to fear that disenchanted progressives in Brooklyn will, like some of their more centrist suburban neighbors, flock to the GOP column in next year’s midterms. Though slightly more than 200,000 Brooklynites voted for Trump in 2020, Brooklyn remains a lock for Democrats, and New York State probably does too. But the slippage that both national polls and my own small survey have detected could matter more in states such as Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Wisconsin, where Democrats are relying on robust turnout from white progressives and Black voters in urban centers. “These aren’t numbers that strong leaders bring to the table in their first midterm election,” Lee Miringoff, the director of the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion, told me.

The good news for Biden, Miringoff said, is that although his poor polling is due in part to a drop-off among Democrats, they are the easiest voters for him to win back. That was apparent from my interviews with Democrats in Brooklyn, who clearly were rooting for Biden to succeed even if they weren’t quite sure what more he could do. “I wish he could twist the arms of Manchin and [Senator Kyrsten] Sinema—or break them, maybe,” Gross, the retired psychiatrist, suggested, referencing the Senate Democratic holdouts on Biden’s Build Back Better bill. The days after we spoke brought news that Democrats were likely to delay the legislation until next year, prompting another round of hand-wringing from Beltway progressives who see its passage as an urgent priority. Yet for all their angst, the rank-and-file Democrats weren’t exactly relying on the same deadline. Biden may not have their enthusiasm at the moment, but less than a year into his presidency and nearly another year before the next major election, he does seem to have their patience. “People should give him time,” Lynch said. “Just give him time.”
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I was right. Biden's electoral flooring really is composed of Blue Believers. And this makes this summary ring a bit familiar.

tl;dr: Trust the plan, Progressives. WWG1WGA.
 
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contradiction of terns said:
I don't have time to go back and read the thread, so I'm sorry if this is late, but TLDR, California is fucc'd.

Biden’s California Water Embargo

Basically, they have a big water shed they were wanting to use as a bank; when there's plenty of rain and the aquifer is filled, you save up water and hold it for when there's a dry spell. This is how the Edward's Aquifer is treated.

Biden has directed the BLM to shut down the pipeline that would have brought that water to Californians. They've cut the water ration for farmers to 0% (this has never been done until now, btw), so say goodbye to your pistachios.
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Almonds.
And as said before when this was recent, the 0% farm ration is a good thing. Everything in California is corrupt as fuck. Especially the Agricultural Industry - they've probably been highballing their funding and water allocation for years just go get more of dat sweet sweet cash crop.

This is a step in the right direction - in that sense. The aquifier and other shit is five steps back though. But I would much rather not have everyone suffer for our fuckups until this shit gets fixed, and the agricultural and forrestry side of Cali is one of the bigger targets to fix first (or the actual governors, but that's a no go now apparently). Also it was a federal mandate shit, nothing we could do huuhuu.

Environmental concerns are massively nuanced as some said, especially for California. It's also a prime avenue for... gayops on a political level.
 
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Compositesludge said:
Where'd you read this?

So you know because you don't know?
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Don't listen to em. I hate the vaccine out of principle. Yes, it has a long list of proven side effects but for the most part people who get it are okay. My niece just had a daughter, and she's been vaxxed since last year. Ask your significant other what her stance is on the unvaccinated. If she goes full Branch Covidian dump her ass.
 
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Compositesludge said:
even with the 95% efficacy rate (which is definitely not 100%, just throwing it out there), the vaccines are clearly not a silver bullet against Covid-19 and will not single-handedly end this pandemic.
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They're not anywhere near %95 efficacy and the protection is completely gone in five to six months. Anyone advocating this shit should be a streetlight ornament in my opinion and it's a crime against humanity to force people to take it.
 
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LurkTrawl said:
They're not anywhere near %95 efficacy and the protection is completely gone in five to six months. Anyone advocating this shit should be a streetlight ornament in my opinion and it's a crime against humanity to force people to take it.
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The other thing about this is that, again, we're really darn close to just agreeing! So basically, there are two variants of Covid going around. Delta, and Omicron. When it comes to the vaccines, with Delta, it evidently is 95%... for about a month. And then it declines. This decline isn't debatable, by the way, if anybody's curious, I can find all sorts of charts and graphs and other stuff. You don't get two shots and then skip off into the sunset to marry Joe Biden, it just doesn't work like that, and anybody who claims it does is objectively lying. So the booster helps out... if we're talking about Delta.

Omicron, however, is a whole different beast, and it's quickly becoming the dominant one. (You can still get Delta, though! Life sucks!) That is slicing through vaccination protection like a hot knife through butter. Don't take my word for it, look at the comments from the infected Senators - how much it helps is debatable, but it being more than capable of infecting vaccinated people, even with the boosters, should likewise be undebatable. And the scary thing is, it isn't. It's hard to even talk about this almost anywhere on the Internet without being labeled a lunatic. Sometimes, discussing things in this thread frustrates me. But there hasn't been a moment here that's been outright frightening in its disingenuity.
 
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LurkTrawl said:
They're not anywhere near %95 efficacy and the protection is completely gone in five to six months. Anyone advocating this shit should be a streetlight ornament in my opinion and it's a crime against humanity to force people to take it.
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Pretty sure the Nu ->Xi -> Omicron variant agenda change GET VACCINE NAO was less than a month. Maybe even less than a week idk.

So no, while "vaccines" normally stop being effective for similiar viruses (cough like the flu cough) both it isn't a vaccine by 'definition' and it's mutating wildly or at least being reported as mutating wildly.

Kind of like theres multiple differing opinions being haphazardly smashed together to fulfill some sort of agenda by a bunch of incompetent boobs in power unable to agree on anything on a national level much less a global level, I think - but it's just a theory of mine about some grand conspiracy.
It's totally fake and all guise.
 
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Compositesludge said:
A sizable portion of the United States has been vaccinated and we're not seeing waves of stillborn babies or mutant abominations roaming the streets. That's my evidence, where's yours?
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Stillborn rates are climbing in reports seen out of Canada and Scotland and pulmonary embolisms have caused a bunch of deaths this year in newborns across America when it used to happen once in a blue moon. And this is shit that's been reported, who knows what hasn't been.

Now, this info could be cherry picked. Or it could show what's in our near future. But it doesn't look good.
 
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Snekposter said:
That BLM is just as much an enemy of the American people as the other BLM. Out here during the Obama years there were constant protests outside the local BLM office thanks to his fuckery. Not that it mattered since it was all hot air and all the actual decisions were made in DC, but... better that than bombings. There's a reason a lot of Oregonians were and are sympathetic to the Bundy ranchers, and its because BLM are massive fucking pricks to anyone who actually wants to use land.

The same people joining the Nat Guard are largely the same ones joining the military. There's a reason the ones in D.C. had to get screened for political reliability... That out of the way, I doubt the local cops will do all that since they're probably just as tired of cleaning up after the messes "their" leaders make.

Homemade rat burgers>vegetarian Taco Bell.

"Never interrupt the enemy when he's making a mistake" is sound advice. So I'm just glad the GOP's laziness is in charge of things instead of so much of the institutional desire to bend over and let the Dems ass-fuck them.

Good news is this is so hilariously, blatantly unconstitutional as a direct violation of... pretty much every single civil rights amendment that even if it does pass the courts will immediately throw it out. Assuming of course people in upstate don't just start shooting people over this.

You mean a hillbilly from backwoods Illinois who grew up doing backbreaking manual labor, and quite possibly invented the chokeslam during his wrestling tours? Who campaigned on a platform of tariffs protecting the jobs of industrial workers (you know, same thing Trump did), pushed for a Homestead Act granting land to small farmers against the wishes of the Democrat plantation classes, and a transcontinental railroad allowing for a massive economic boom as the deprived middle could now reap the benefits of both sides of the country?
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William Seward, Charles Sumner, and pretty much every early Republican besides Honest Abe was a blueblood pro business WASP. The Gilded Age Republicans pretty much all tended to be very pro Big Business and Free Trade, and there was lots of resistance to Teddy Roosevelt and his progressivism interventionism.
 
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Oxous said:
Weren't Nu, Xi and Omicron all just different names for the same variant?
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No, the WHO decided not to use Nu or Xi, skipping straight from Mu (which apparently fizzled out without becoming widespread) to Omicron. The reason given for skipping Nu was that "Nu" sounds too much like "new," which would confuse people into thinking that someone was talking about a "new variant" when they were discussing the "Nu variant."

As for Xi...well, the stated reason is that it's a very common Chinese name and they didn't want to offend people with that name, which breaks down when you realize that Mu is also a very common Chinese name and they used it without issue. The actual reason is because one specific person has that name, a person who runs a country that currently holds vast sway over the WHO, so they specifically didn't want to offend that single person. Three guesses who.
 
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I come bringing Spacebattles insanity.
Context: https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...he-2024-election-outlook-for-the-dems.984100/
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And the best part is 13 people agreed with him.
 
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Bakarina said:
Stillborn rates are climbing in reports seen out of Canada and Scotland and pulmonary embolisms have caused a bunch of deaths this year in newborns across America when it used to happen once in a blue moon. And this is shit that's been reported, who knows what hasn't been.

Now, this info could be cherry picked. Or it could show what's in our near future. But it doesn't look good.
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I might be bad at searching, but the only one I could find information on was stillborn rates in Canada, which don't seem to have been affected by Covid-19. I also found a study on vaccinating pregnant women and the possible impact it could have on their children! I'm glad that's at least being studied, because you, well, don't want to leave that up to chance.
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I come bringing Spacebattles insanity.
Context: https://forums.spacebattles.com/thr...he-2024-election-outlook-for-the-dems.984100/
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And the best part is 13 people agreed with him.
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So the goal of a party isn't to pass big policy? That's... a new one. The most obvious problem is that this is, likewise, a just world fallacy, where everything will trend back toward what firefossil deems desirable (Democrat victories). This is some of the purest copium I've ever seen on display.
CrippleThreat said:
With the coof sperging present, I feel obligated to post this.

Press Briefing by White House COVID-⁠19 Response Team and Public Health Officials
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I had an angry panic attack about this one a few days ago. It's fucking horrific. It's fucking horrific and I don't know why so many people don't seem to care.
 
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