Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[The golden neckbeard]

Since when are Russia and China allies?

The amount of retarded ‘experts’ in this thread who know nothing about Russia is appalling.

You must be from /Pol

China and Russia are pretty much germany and japan.

Yeah they are nothing alike ideologically but they are United in hatred of American hegemony. They can and have linked up and are both signers of the SCO defense pact. Russian resources and military equipment flow south and money goes north.

Legally they are already obliged to assist one annother in the event of an attack.


They are for all intents and purposes a military alliance with different agendas and ideas concerning who rules a post american world

For now they will work together to bring down the west...past that yes its unlikely. If america didnt exist the two would likely resort to the sort of uneasy relationship of the sino-soviet split.

For noe Their militaries even drill together constantly in Zapad. They are an alliance of convenience

Russia and China: 'Not allies, but better than allies'

In regions such as Central Asia, Moscow and Beijing strike an uneasy balance as China's "One Belt, One Road" initiative quietly builds its influence in former Soviet republics that Russia still sees as its backyard. In other areas, the complex geopolitics of the 2020s defies simple efforts to...

m.economictimes.com

There was a widow of opportunity to reverse this after Trump was elected but MUH RUSSIA and endless rounds of sanctions closed this window.

Putin would never cooperate with the west against China. lmao

Putin still thinks of the world as "Soviet/Russian vs NATO" and wants a unique area of influence independent of China and the USA. You can see in action that with operations in ukraine, caucusus, belarus and Syria.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Also, i think putin is dead serouis this time

Either Nato gauruntees no membership for Ukraine or he will go in.

The difference between now and the other buildups is that NATO is arming Ukraine and goading them to attack donbass and crimea under the Biden regime.

Troops are being pulled from far east military districts. This is not a drill...IMO


Either way i am ready and eager to sponser a QT ukrainian refugee

 

[George Lucas]

You must be from /Pol

China and Russia are pretty much germany and japan.

Yeah they are nothing alike ideologically but they are United in hatred of American hegemony. They can and have linked up and are both signers of the SCO defense pact. Russian resources and military equipment flow south and money goes north.

Legally they are already obliged to assist one annother in the event of an attack.


They are for all intents and purposes a military alliance with different agendas and ideas concerning who rules a post american world

For now they will work together to bring down the west...past that yes its unlikely. If america didnt exist the two would likely resort to the sort of uneasy relationship of the sino-soviet split.

For noe Their militaries even drill together constantly in Zapad. They are an alliance of convenience

Russia and China: 'Not allies, but better than allies'

In regions such as Central Asia, Moscow and Beijing strike an uneasy balance as China's "One Belt, One Road" initiative quietly builds its influence in former Soviet republics that Russia still sees as its backyard. In other areas, the complex geopolitics of the 2020s defies simple efforts to...

m.economictimes.com

There was a widow of opportunity to reverse this after Trump was elected but MUH RUSSIA and endless rounds of sanctions closed this window.

Putin would never cooperate with the west against China. lmao

Putin still thinks of the world as "Soviet/Russian vs NATO" and wants a unique area of influence independent of China and the USA. You can see in action that with operations in ukraine, caucusus, belarus and Syria.

Okay, a bunch of conjecture and a source that specifically says the opposite of what you’re arguing. Makes sense.

Wait aren’t you the retard who thought Ukrainian was closer to Hungarian than Russian?

 

[Richardface]

Okay, a bunch of conjecture and a source that specifically says the opposite of what you’re arguing. Makes sense.

Wait aren’t you the retard who thought Ukrainian was closer to Hungarian than Russian?

He is, and he is right for the wrong reasons

Xi told Putin China, Russia are better than allies, Kremlin says

Chinese President Xi Jinping hailed relations with Russia as better than an alliance in a video call with President Vladimir Putin, according to the Kremlin, as the two leaders made a show of solidarity amid rising tensions with the West.

www.stripes.com

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Okay, a bunch of conjecture and a source that specifically says the opposite of what you’re arguing. Makes sense.

You didn't read article. Its an alliance in everything but name.

I'm sure Vlad will Join with Merkel and Biden to Crush the godless communists any day now. Despite us constantly undermining his country for 25 years

On that note, here is the SCO alliance they are part of that alright links the two in terms of military alliances

Shanghai Cooperation Organisation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wait aren’t you the retard who thought Ukrainian was closer to Hungarian than Russian?

They culturally are closer to eastern Europe than Russia idiot.

 

[Male Idiot]

You didn't read article. Its an alliance in everything but name.

I'm sure Vlad will Join with Merkel and Biden to Crush the godless communists any day now. Despite us constantly undermining his country for 25 years

On that note, here is the SCO alliance they are part of that alright links the two in terms of military alliances

Shanghai Cooperation Organisation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They culturally are closer to eastern Europe than Russia idiot.

Sorry, you are never living this down. You culturally have zero information on the region to make such a blunder.
You may as well have said: "Trust me, I am an expert, I know Washington DC is in California."

So eat the fucking paprika hat.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

There's some chatter about a planned false flag by the Ukrainian army using American chemical weapons. No real proof of it yet, but will see what happens.

 

[George Lucas]

You didn't read article. Its an alliance in everything but name.

I'm sure Vlad will Join with Merkel and Biden to Crush the godless communists any day now. Despite us constantly undermining his country for 25 years

On that note, here is the SCO alliance they are part of that alright links the two in terms of military alliances

Shanghai Cooperation Organisation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They culturally are closer to eastern Europe than Russia idiot.

I know actual Russians and Ukrainians you fucking retard.

 

[Niggernerd]

Russia gay lol nuke em

 

[Buck Breaker of BUcha]

There's some chatter about a planned false flag by the Ukrainian army using American chemical weapons. No real proof of it yet, but will see what happens.

I wouldn't be surprised, having used the same tactic numerous times in Syria. Maybe they can even prop up an ukrainian equivalent to the White Helmets.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Sorry, you are never living this down. You culturally have zero information on the region to make such a blunder.
You may as well have said: "Trust me, I am an expert, I know Washington DC is in California."

So eat the fucking paprika hat.

Yeah yeah...any day Putin will Hoist the Orthodox Flag and Join the West and Invade Sinkiang like /Pol says

Sure...Sure

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

Yeah yeah...any day Putin will Hoist the Orthodox Flag and Join the West and Invade Sinkiang like /Pol says

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Sure...Sure

Once Putin is no longer in charge and an inevitably weak leader takes his place, the Orthodox Church will be sent to camps and the Red Book will become mandatory.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

I know actual Russians and Ukrainians you fucking retard.

You are a huge faggot and full of shit and know neither

There a massive amount of Hungarians living in Ukraine. Its the 4th largest ethnic group inside the nation. All I said is that Ukrainian culture is more like Eastern Europe than it is Russian and its fucking true because vast parts of Ukraine was ruled by Hungary/Poland and others forever. Russian influence is fairly new

 

[Rezza]

Also, i think putin is dead serouis this time

Either Nato gauruntees no membership for Ukraine or he will go in.

The difference between now and the other buildups is that NATO is arming Ukraine and goading them to attack donbass and crimea under the Biden regime.

Troops are being pulled from far east military districts. This is not a drill...IMO


Either way i am ready and eager to sponser a QT ukrainian refugee

So, a question that have been in my mind for quite some time, if the Russia will actually invade Ukraine, what would the reactions of the rest of the world would be? Would we see a World War 3? Or is it just going to be business as usual?

 

[Considered HARMful]

So, a question that have been in my mind for quite some time, if the Russia will actually invade Ukraine, what would the reactions of the rest of the world would be? Would we see a World War 3? Or is it just going to be business as usual?

Russia will not invade Ukraine, because NATO won't put their bases there.

If (and that's a big if, with a lot of here unwritten assumptions made to make that possible) Russia were to fuck up Ukraine, not much would happen beyond diplomatic isolation of Russia in most of EU. Which, as I said earlier in this thread, would be more damaging to EU than Russia.

 

[AlexGroans]

For the people in NATO countries: would you be willing to die for Ukraine? I see it as a corrupt backwater state used as a money-laundering operation, so it’s a hard no for me.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

For the people in NATO countries: would you be willing to die for Ukraine? I see it as a corrupt backwater state used as a money-laundering operation, so it’s a hard no for me.

Same here. Why die for Ukraine? Why die for what it represents, the corrupt and uncaring ruling class who once held some competency now shuffling off to oblivion, to everyone's detriment.

 

[George Lucas]

You are a huge faggot and full of shit and know neither

There a massive amount of Hungarians living in Ukraine. Its the 4th largest ethnic group inside the nation. All I said is that Ukrainian culture is more like Eastern Europe than it is Russian and its fucking true because vast parts of Ukraine was ruled by Hungary/Poland and others forever. Russian influence is fairly new

This is what you said:

Spoiler

Right...

A ukrainian would understand polish and hungarian but not russian.

The orthodox church is the only thing that unites them but that stops at the dniepr..everything west of thst is catholic

Serbia being a strange exception

Also, if Hungary and Poland were so influential, why the fuck is it Orthodox?

 

[Richardface]

You are a huge faggot and full of shit and know neither

There a massive amount of Hungarians living in Ukraine. Its the 4th largest ethnic group inside the nation. All I said is that Ukrainian culture is more like Eastern Europe than it is Russian and its fucking true because vast parts of Ukraine was ruled by Hungary/Poland and others forever. Russian influence is fairly new

Keep going im almost there

 

[Koko Jambo]

Russia will not invade Ukraine, because NATO won't put their bases there.

If (and that's a big if, with a lot of here unwritten assumptions made to make that possible) Russia were to fuck up Ukraine, not much would happen beyond diplomatic isolation of Russia in most of EU. Which, as I said earlier in this thread, would be more damaging to EU than Russia.

Nah we would get Ukranian cuties as refugees. If Putin would invade Ukraine it would result in a long term conventional war even 'tho Ukraine is geographical quite easy to invade. They have a experienced army, modern weapons and a decent air force. Russian propaganda doesn't portray Ukraine as a failed state anymore but as a threat to Russia what says quite a lot.