US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Oxous]

CMS was always going to be hard to sell. It is incredibly difficult to argue even for something like Covid that medical staff shouldn't be vaccinated. The large workplace mandate getting cut is a huge win still.

If you think about it, the fact that there's still the potential that CMS could be found unconstitutional in the courts just goes to show how far the Biden administration tried to overstep their boundaries. Imagine if every vaxmax enthusiast walks away from today thinking they got a partial victory and then CMS gets btfo in court a month later or something.

 

[Gehenna]

If you think about it, the fact that there's still the potential that CMS could be found unconstitutional in the courts just goes to show how far the Biden administration tried to overstep their boundaries. Imagine if every vaxmax enthusiast walks away from today thinking they got a partial victory and then CMS gets btfo in court a month later or something.

Which isn't even a long odd. Both Kavanaugh and Roberts are leaving the door open on that, and their vote here indicates they are not opposed to striking it.

They didn't cut the baby so much as stick strictly to the cases before them rather than going on a limb. The combined message is clear, "Give us a good case against it and we will decide against it, but we won't help you do it".

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

CMS was always going to be hard to sell. It is incredibly difficult to argue even for something like Covid that medical staff shouldn't be vaccinated. The large workplace mandate getting cut is a huge win still.

Best argument that I can think of that comes to mind is regarding the risk side - There are dangers involved in [any] vaccination, and its already well established precedent that people serving the public are in no obligation to put their lives at risk for the service of that public, even in jobs that nominally expect it. IE Police officers aren't legally obligated to run into a building full of gunfire to try and stop the shooting. A nurse shouldn't be expected to put her health at risk to treat the health issues of others.

 

[thismanlies]

Hopefully this ruling means trucking companies can get their shit moving again. I’m tired of looking at bare shelves when I go to the supermarket.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

If you think about it, the fact that there's still the potential that CMS could be found unconstitutional in the courts just goes to show how far the Biden administration tried to overstep their boundaries. Imagine if every vaxmax enthusiast walks away from today thinking they got a partial victory and then CMS gets btfo in court a month later or something.

Hell, even with the partial "win" today, they're probably STILL mad, because both weren't upheld. If Branch Covidian Twitter was a collective sound, it'd probably be this right now:

 

[Some Badger]

Where does New York City fit in all of this in regards to the ruling? While it's not the only city that imposes heavy restrictions on the unvaccinated anymore, it's the only city to my knowledge that requires all employers, public and private, within its municipal jurisdiction to have its workforce fully vaccinated, with the sole exception being the MTA and maybe the NYFD because mass-firing for both would be disastrous. I have no idea if DeBlasio implemented this policy last month because he expected the courts to rule in favor of the OSHA mandate, but he has repeatedly insisted that the mandate is perfectly lawful regarding the city itself. He almost certainly did it so he could exit his term and pass the blame to Eric Adams if it backfires, that much I think is plausible.

Maybe it's because it's got the population on par with several small European countries, but New York City is kind of treated as its own political entity. They certainly think of themselves as separate from NYS for all intents and purposes. DeBlasio got away with implementing two egregious pieces of policy that set a dangerous precedent for the rest of the country: requiring vaccine passports for indoor activities and doing the same as a condition of employment. I've accepted that the former probably won't stop being implemented as long as covid continues to be treated like the bubonic plague, but I would love nothing more than to see the latter be challenged in court now that OSHA has been denied the overreach it never deserved.

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Hopefully this ruling means trucking companies can get their shit moving again. I’m tired of looking at bare shelves when I go to the supermarket.

My cat died of old age a few months ago. He was the sweetest little guy and I miss him a lot. I'm finally getting ready to find another companion. The house has been too quiet, and I miss the fun of having a pet.

I've been wanting to get a kitten, but the empty shelves are literally the reason why I'm holding off on that right now. Pet food shelves in particular in my area have been looking empty this Winter. I don't want a pet if I can't feed the poor thing!

 

[Gehenna]

Where does New York City fit in all of this in regards to the ruling? While it's not the only city that imposes heavy restrictions on the unvaccinated anymore, it's the only city to my knowledge that requires all employers, public and private, within its municipal jurisdiction to have its workforce fully vaccinated, with the sole exception being the MTA and maybe the NYFD because mass-firing for both would be disastrously. I have no idea if DeBlasio implemented this policy last month because he expected the courts to rule in favor of the OSHA mandate, but he has repeatedly insisted that the mandate is perfectly lawful regarding the city itself. He almost certainly did it so he could exit his term and pass the blame to Eric Adams if it backfires, that much I think is plausible.

Maybe it's because it's got the population on par with several small European countries, but New York City is kind of treated as its own political entity. DeBlasio got away with implementing two egregious pieces of policy that set a dangerous precedent for the rest of the country: requiring vaccine passports for indoor activities and doing the same as a condition of employment. I've accepted that the former probably won't stop being implemented as long as covid continues to be treated the bubonic plague, but I would love nothing more than to see the latter be challenged in court now that OSHA has been denied the overreach it never deserved.

States have near carte blanche authority to do as they please here. Leave New York.

 

[DicksOutForKiwigglers]

This is good news. However, doesn't this just mean that private employers aren't going to be subjected to federal penalties for not requiring vaccines? Is there anything that prevents them from independently making vaccination a condition of continued employment?

No, and there's historical presidence for employers being able to do that and even states mandating vaccines. However, what this means is heavily red states likely won't have any mandates in place while blue states will.

States have near carte blanche authority to do as they please here. Leave New York.

Adding onto this, I'm not going to pretend leaving any state and moving somewhere else is easy; especially if you have family and friends you don't want to leave behind. With that said, the sooner you move the better off you'll be.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Not even one year since Dementia Joe took the oath of office and there are no major accomplishments for his "administration".

But muh child tax credits! Muh AUKUS! Muh American Rescue Plans!

 

[Kuritan Deplorable]

No, and there's historical presidence for employers being able to do that and even states mandating vaccines. However, what this means is heavily red states likely won't have any mandates in place while blue states will.

Adding onto this, I'm not going to pretend leaving and state and moving somewhere else is easy; especially if you have family and friends you don't want to leave behind. With that said, the sooner you move the better off you'll be.

The best and most important things in life rarely are easy - Thats what tends to make them so rewarding. I'll take a hard choice and hard months now, over years of decay to the point that one does not even remember what they lost anymore.

 

[Oxous]

Hell, even with the partial "win" today, they're probably STILL mad, because both weren't upheld. If Branch Covidian Twitter was a collective sound, it'd probably be this right now:

Yup.

(^ this redditor actually is referring to 'at will employment' not right to work lol)

And bonus points:

 

[Hüftpriester]

States have near carte blanche authority to do as they please here. Leave New York.

I would imagine blue state governors will take this ruling as an excuse to become even more tyrannical with their covid mandates. The important thing is New Yorkers can move to a state that doesn't treat them like retarded children.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

My cat died of old age a few months ago. He was the sweetest little guy and I miss him a lot. I'm finally getting ready to find another companion. The house has been too quiet, and I miss the fun of having a pet.

I've been wanting to get a kitten, but the empty shelves are literally the reason why I'm holding off on that right now. Pet food shelves in particular in my area have been looking empty this Winter. I don't want a pet if I can't feed the poor thing!

But having pets is a form of animal abuse in and of itself! The experts of animal rights, PETA, told me so, so it must be true!

But seriously though, sorry about your loss. Hopefully you'll be able to fill the void! Good luck in your search!

THE FUCKING IRONY. MY SIDES.

 

[Some Badger]

States have near carte blanche authority to do as they please here. Leave New York.

I have the benefit of living in New Jersey, but I'm afraid my line of work is concentrated to this general area. Moving to a red state would be analogous to giving up my career entirely, but it's always plausible. I'll just use my work experience to become an electrician at a news station or something, idk. Far easier said than done.

I'm convinced that the only reason Phil Murphy hasn't gone full Hochul is because the margins that got him re-elected this past November were so slim that he knows any radical policy regarding mandates will be objected to by half the state. I do worry about my home state though. It's small and also suffocatingly blue, and has nowhere near the opposition numbers as New Jersey.

 

[XYZpdq]

This is not quite the pull yet. Keep in mind, this was only where there should be a stay on the mandates. It does not yet void them. The stay is pending decisions by the lower courts.


Now, this stay does give a rather strong nudge to the lower courts to decide a certain way. But it does not decide for them.

What I'm seeing is looking more like this is the whole decision for the OSHA one at least?

 

[HTTP Error 404]

The bill has a lot of specifics but it boils down to the states needing to get federal permission to accomplish anything election related. That means ballots, redistricting, registration, etc.

Remember that in 20... 18? I think it was, there was a judge that passed away.

Said Judge was coming out of retirement once a year SPECIFICALLY to force the GOP into a permanent temporary agreement with the DNC about election procedure which made the GOP literally forbidden to appeal or object to DNC fortification efforts as long as the DNC could somehow throw one of their pet blacks in the mix.

This was called the consent decree, but I don't remember the specifics really. I do know Pelosi tried to hide the same shit in two of her megapork bills and I'm guessing failed miserably, since they keep trying to do the same thing, over and over again.

Judge ends consent decree limiting RNC 'ballot security' activities

The RNC's communication director praised the ruling.

www.politico.com

Once you realize the left has literally used forification and rigging to gain and keep political power in the US for not years, but decades if not a full century, things make a bit more sense. And since they fucked over their future plans and everyone's retiring, they no longer have the luxury of being subtle.

 

[Salubrious]

States have near carte blanche authority to do as they please here. Leave New York.

I can leave now if I had to, but I would prefer to stay a bit longer to get some savings. Then I'm getting the fuck out of here.

Thank God I live Upstate and not NYC.

 

[celebrityskin]

Do keep in mind Quinnipiac's poll -is- an outlier. Even my own work only has him hanging on desperately to a 36/37 approval. Granted, that has been increasingly... volatile. But still. But yes, if he drops down to ~33% he begins a death spiral from which there is no way out. It just goes downhill from there.

Trump was only like 2% lower than Biden was at the same point in his presidency, that's pretty rich lmao.

 

[elite_club]

Even Roberts did the right thing for once. Holy shit.

Roberts will only do the right thing if him voting against it would otherwise do nothing.