Alec Baldwin's 'prop firearm' kills one, injures another

Sheriff's office: Alec Baldwin discharged prop gun that killed crew member, wounded director

Baldwin is one of the film's star actors and producers. He went to the sheriff's office willingly and provided a statement to investigators, sheriff's office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

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Actor Alec Baldwin discharged a "prop firearm" that killed a cinematographer and injured a the director of the movie Rust, being filmed on a set south of Santa Fe, a county sheriff's office spokesman said late Thursday.

Halyna Hutchins, 42 and the director of photography for the movie, died at University of New Mexico Hospital in Albuquerque. The film's director, Joel Souza, was hospitalized in Santa Fe, Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office spokesman Juan Ríos said.

A source closed to the investigation said Baldwin, 63, was questioned by investigators late Thursday and was seen by a New Mexican reporter and photographer in tears.

Investigators are still trying to determine if the incident was an accident, Ríos said. No charges have been filed, and the investigation remains open, Ríos wrote in a news release.

The prop was fired at Bonanza Creek Ranch, where filming was underway, the sheriff's office said in an early evening news release. Baldwin stars in the production.

Hutchins died from her injuries after she was flown to University of New Mexico Hospital, according to the sheriff's office. Souza was taken to Christus St. Vincent Regional Medical Center, where he is receiving emergency care, the sheriff's office said. Attempts to get comment from Baldwin were unsuccessful.

“We received the devastating news this evening, that one of our members, Halyna Hutchins, the Director of Photography on a production called ‘Rust’ in New Mexico died from injuries sustained on the set,” John Lindley, the president of the International Cinematographers Guild Local 600, and Rebecca Rhine, the executive director, said in a statement, as reported by Variety. “The details are unclear at this moment, but we are working to learn more, and we support a full investigation into this tragic event. This is a terrible loss, and we mourn the passing of a member of our Guild’s family.”

Deputies were investigating how the accident occurred and "what type of projectile was discharged," the sheriff's office said in an earlier news release.

Rust Movie Productions did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Filming for Rust was set to continue into early November, according to a news release from the New Mexico Film Office. It's described as the story of a 13-year-old boy left to fend for himself and his younger brother following the death of their parents in 1880s Kansas, with New Mexico doubling for Kansas.

Guns firing blanks have been blamed for deaths in past movie productions. Online Hollywood news site Deadline reported, "Actor Jon-Erik Hexum was killed Oct. 18, 1984, on the set of the TV series Cover Up when he accidentally shot himself in the head with a gun loaded with blanks. And in 1993, Brandon Lee, the son of martial arts legend Bruce Lee, died after he was shot in the head by a gun firing blanks on the set of The Crow. Both incidents were determined to have been accidents."

This is a developing story and will be updated.

 

[Xarpho]

I don't want baldwin to go to jail, because that will make him face the consequences of his actions. Instead, i want him socially ostracised, black-listed from all new movies and for everyone to treat him like a leper. I want his mind to break until he does a full redemption arc and becomes #1 Gun safety guy in hollywood history and repays his debt by saving lives instead of taking them.

Hollywood actors don't have redemption arcs. If things get bad enough that his "mind breaks", he's going to troon out, commit sudoku, or find himself in jail for something unrelated. And if he ever recovers, he's out of there. He may still have friends, but he'll basically be on the same level connection-wise on the actors that do Christian/right-wing films or openly support Trump.

 

[whoishomermynameis]

https://twitter.com/emilymiller/status/1481754841978486785

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

The stupidity contained in that statement should be criminal; that she'd think just shaking the whole box was good enough, is exactly how she ended up costing Hutchins her life.

But her lawyer is nearly as incompetent, outlining & admitting to her gross negligence at least twice, in the same statement. Someone needs to check his shyster credentials with the tribe.

Remember that scene in Jackie Brown when De Niro’s character had to take a bag of money out the mall, only to find out that it was all clothes but he didn’t look because it “felt right”?

That’s what this retardation sounds like.

Hollywood actors don't have redemption arcs. If things get bad enough that his "mind breaks", he's going to troon out, commit sudoku, or find himself in jail for something unrelated. And if he ever recovers, he's out of there. He may still have friends, but he'll basically be on the same level connection-wise on the actors that do Christian/right-wing films or openly support Trump.

I don’t know about this. After Michael Massee shot the gun that killed Brandon Lee, he left acting for about a year before going back, and while he was casted in films again, he was still extremely traumatized by the incident.

 

[Snekposter]

I don’t know about this. After Michael Massee shot the gun that killed Brandon Lee, he left acting for about a year before going back, and while he was casted in films again, he was still extremely traumatized by the incident.

That's because Michael Massee is a human being who through no real fault of his own killed a person by accident. At what point has Alec Baldwin displayed any sort of empathy or remorse for what he's done? Is that Tweet up above what you'd expect from someone traumatized by their deeds, or that of a sociopath who has found a way to rationalize away all culpability?

 

[WonderWino]

Hollywood actors don't have redemption arcs. If things get bad enough that his "mind breaks", he's going to troon out, commit sudoku, or find himself in jail for something unrelated. And if he ever recovers, he's out of there. He may still have friends, but he'll basically be on the same level connection-wise on the actors that do Christian/right-wing films or openly support Trump.

The image of a trooned out alec baldwin is the stuff of nightmares

 

[Xarpho]

That's because Michael Massee is a human being who through no real fault of his own killed a person by accident. At what point has Alec Baldwin displayed any sort of empathy or remorse for what he's done? Is that Tweet up above what you'd expect from someone traumatized by their deeds, or that of a sociopath who has found a way to rationalize away all culpability?

I'm going to pick a third option. I think that Baldwin was traumatized and thought about it a lot. There's research that shows that every time you remember something, details can change, and outside factors change what you remember, so he probably really believes he didn't pull the trigger.

However, he's also a selfish prick. As an example, children and teenagers do not often take responsibility for their actions and find excuses, but that hardly means they're "sociopaths", and in many ways, Baldwin is still in that mental state. He's been coddled for so long in the Hollywood bubble that he can act like a complete douche and get away with it. His temper is a known problem—the type of person who would scream at someone for the simple mistake of getting him the wrong type of bagel.

Compounding all of this is it's much more than just accidentally blowing a hole through the cinematographer, the whole set was, by all accounts, an absolute shitshow with every possible corner cut, which is probably why he was reluctant to hand over his phone. He knows his career is functionally over, and even if he avoids jail time, lawsuits are inevitable. So whatever guilt about killing Hutchins is probably overshadowed by his fear of the consequences, which is probably causing his mental state to be, at best, unsound.

 

[MadStan]

Your ‘offer’ was that if he was charged you’d log off the farms for six months. Good to know that if he’s also found guilty of any charges that you’ll close your KF account altogether.

Go back to the thread and get it in context.

He's going to need to be charged with more than not providing donuts to the crew and staff on the set. He is going to need to be charged with negligence resulting in death. Obviously.

This entire thread was created because you guys were biting at the bit to see Baldwin locked away for negligence resulting in the death of the crew member. I stand by my offer.

But don't come like some slinky whore demanding a shot of ice without offering something in return. If I pay I want my fucking blow job. If you are so fucking confident in your own theory on what happened then pony up and offer to close your account if he is not charged.

Don't be a little punk and sit there - pony up or shut the fuck up. I'm watching the news and don't need to come here into the thread. there isn't any point until something happens of substance.

 

[Billy Beer]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60006166

He's finally handed his phone over...

 

[Super-Chevy454]

https://twitter.com/emilymiller/status/1481754841978486785

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Thank you Alec Baldwin for creating a new internet meme.

 

[SITHRAK!]

Go back to the thread and get it in context.

Post 1244, page 63.

Is there some kind of 'context' I'm missing here? Because the post above seems to be clear regarding the offer you've made.

Ah, the redefining of the offer starts. Seems you're not so confident now, hmm?

If you are so fucking confident in your own theory on what happened then pony up and offer to close your account if he is not charged.

Why would I? You promised to cease posting for six months if Baldwin's charged with anything, and close your account altogether if he's found guilty of anything related to the shooting. Those terms did not stipulate any form of risk or wager on the part of anyone else. Don't try to renegotiate the deal after you've made it.

INB4 'data to hand thus far'... I wonder if you're confident enough to clearly state that you won't use that as a weaselly loophole.
Frankly it's put you in a hell of a position- do you man up and potentially take the hit? Maybe gaining some respect, but unable to profit from it?
Or will you do what's expected, which is backpedalling, retconning and generally going back on your word?

 

[ForTheHoard]

Remember that scene in Jackie Brown when De Niro’s character had to take a bag of money out the mall, only to find out that it was all clothes but he didn’t look because it “felt right”?

That’s what this retardation sounds like.

I don’t know about this. After Michael Massee shot the gun that killed Brandon Lee, he left acting for about a year before going back, and while he was casted in films again, he was still extremely traumatized by the incident.

Robert Downey Jr. did alright. His case is very unique though.

Post 1244, page 63.

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Is there some kind of 'context' I'm missing here? Because the post above seems to be clear regarding the offer you've made.

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Ah, the redefining of the offer starts. Seems you're not so confident now, hmm?



Why would I? You promised to cease posting for six months if Baldwin's charged with anything, and close your account altogether if he's found guilty of anything related to the shooting. Those terms did not stipulate any form of risk or wager on the part of anyone else. Don't try to renegotiate the deal after you've made it.

INB4 'data to hand thus far'... I wonder if you're confident enough to clearly state that you won't use that as a weaselly loophole.
Frankly it's put you in a hell of a position- do you man up and potentially take the hit? Maybe gaining some respect, but unable to profit from it?
Or will you do what's expected, which is backpedalling, retconning and generally going back on your word?

Don't make bets with other Kiwis. You'll end up having to eat a hat or be forever mocked for not eating it.

 

[RMQualtrough]

Target eliminated, good work, 47.

 

[Snekposter]

Don't make bets with other Kiwis. You'll end up having to eat a hat or be forever mocked for not eating it.

Or in other words... Kiwi Farms never forgets.

 

[Salubrious]

Baldwin is back to work on an independent UK film.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/alec-baldwin-said-its-strange-being-back-on-set-after-this-horrible-thing-happened-on-rust-set

After months of laying low, actor Alec Baldwin is going back to work. The 63-year-old actor posted a video update to social media on Monday discussing how weird it was going back on a movie set for the first time since a prop gun he held discharged a live bullet on the set of “Rust,” killing the film’s cinematographer.

“It’s strange to go back to work,” the “30 Rock” alum said in a video he posted from the U.K. set of “97 Minutes,” a low-budget air disaster thriller, Page Six reported.

“I haven’t worked since Oct. 21 of last year when this horrible thing happened on the set of this film and we had the accidental death of our cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins,” he continued. “I even still find that hard to say.”

The investigation into the death of Hutchins is still ongoing.

“But I went back to work today for the first time in three and a half months,” he went on before joking that it felt like he had forgotten how to act and “any of this nonsense” making movies over the past few months.

“Especially in independent film, where there are good people — there are very good people — but everybody’s chasing all the good people, and a lot of the best ones get gobbled up by projects that have more money,” the actor said.

“When you have a very limited budget, you’re filling positions with people who are … who are good, but they are probably early in their career. And young. Everybody’s young. But I went back to work today — it was interesting. Interesting.”

Baldwin finished by saying, “I miss my kids … I miss them all. Who knows what the future will bring. I hope good things.”

The actor still insists he did not pull the trigger on the firearm that discharged a bullet that hit and killed Hutchins on the set of the movie “Rust” in October. And Baldwin then reported having nightmares and PTSD following the “worst situation” he’s ever been in.

Around New Year’s, Baldwin revealed that he’s been speaking with spiritual advisors who are teaching him how to overcome negativity and “manage [his] feelings better” so that they won’t “destroy” him or “get the better” of him. “We live in a world where there’s just oceans of negativity, online and so forth, and one must find a way to manage that,” he said.

Earlier in January, the actor posted a video saying he was fully cooperating with the investigation into the shooting, which ran contrary to rumors that Baldwin was refusing to turn over his cell phone to authorities.

“Any suggestion that I am not complying with requests or orders or demands or search warrants about my phone, that’s bulls***, that’s a lie,” the actor said in a lengthy video he recorded in his car and posted to Instagram.

“This is a process where one state makes the request of another state. Someone from another state can’t come to you and say, ‘Give me your phone. Give me this, give me that.’ They can’t do that. They have to go through the state you live in. That is a process that takes time, they have to specify what exactly they want. They can’t just go through your phone and take your photos or your love letters to your wife, or what have you.”

He continued, “We are one thousand percent going to comply with all that. We’re perfectly fine with that.”

 

[Character from a movie]

Baldwin is back to work on an independent UK film.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/alec-baldwin-said-its-strange-being-back-on-set-after-this-horrible-thing-happened-on-rust-set

That doesn't make sense. He should be in prison, at least as a preventive measure. Weren't there any witnesses when he shot those two people?

 

[Lone Star]

That doesn't make sense. He should be in prison, at least as a preventive measure. Weren't there any witnesses when he shot those two people?

He's a rich leftist celebrity. Why would he be in prison?

 

[NickDigger]

That doesn't make sense. He should be in prison, at least as a preventive measure. Weren't there any witnesses when he shot those two people?

There's no evidence it's premeditated homicide, so no, he can't be in prison.

He should however not be working because he's still a producer on the film where he shot the DP. He should be conferring with his lawyers day in and out. But I guess he's expecting the incoming lawsuits are going to eat into his income, so now he's scrounging for work to pay his attorneys and parties involved.

 

[Character from a movie]

There's no evidence it's premeditated homicide, so no, he can't be in prison.

Well I thought he was going to prison for manslaughter.

 

[urr13 account]

There's no evidence it's premeditated homicide, so no, he can't be in prison.

you can go to jail for killing someone even if its an accident, doesnt have to be premeditated or even intentional.

 

[NickDigger]

Well I thought he was going to prison for manslaughter.

People die everyday due to negligence from someone else. Outside of something like drunk driving and causing a fatality, someone dying because you might have not taken precautionary methods to stop it does not mean you're automatically going to shoot hoops in Pelican Bay.

@urr13 account No you can't. Take it from someone who's sat in depositions for accidents that occur at places like oil refineries and shit blows up and injures someone: The person running the facility doesn't automatically go to jail, nor does the employee in charge of safety precautions if there is one.