Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[RomanesEuntDomus]

People thinking Disney has profitted from Star Wars will never stop being funny.

 

[starborn427614]

People thinking Disney has profitted from Star Wars will never stop being funny.

Is there any projected date on when they're supposed to turn an actual profit?

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Is there any projected date on when they're supposed to turn an actual profit?

Given that Disney is putting layers upon layers of bullshit ontop of each other to hide this economic blunder from their investors, no one except themselves will ever know.
I mean, it's not a massive loss thanks to the huge audiences for TFA and TLJ, but "not being a massive loss" doesn't equal "good return on investment".

 

[Sneed F91]

Is there any projected date on when they're supposed to turn an actual profit?

Given that Disney is putting layers upon layers of bullshit ontop of each other to hide this economic blunder from their investors, no one except themselves will ever know.
I mean, it's not a massive loss thanks to the huge audiences for TFA and TLJ, but "not being a massive loss" doesn't equal "good return on investment".

People uniroincally believe since they paid $4 bil for Lucasfilm in 2012 that because TFA made $2 bil and the other two made $1 bil plus "merch sales" that they made the money back.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Which kinda reminds me, whatever came of their absurdly expensive Star Wars themed hotels?
IIRC, at least one of the two was finished by the time Covid hit, so the dramatic decrease in tourism and so on must have really thrown their plans under the bus. I doubt they would have ever made a profit from those obscenely costly hotels anyway, given that they cost like a couple hundred million bucks each to build and I simply refuse to believe that there's a shitton of families willing to shell out a grand per day to sleep in a shitty version of a capsule hotel.

 

[thegooddoctor]

I honestly miss the prequels over most of the shit Disney put out in the new skywalker trilogy, say what you want about how corny, poorly paced, badly written and dated they are. They at least ‘felt’ Like they were trying to expand the Star Wars lore and contributed huge new elements to the universe instead retreading the same original trilogy ground as much as possible as the new Trilogy did. Many of the ideas in the prequel are honestly very solid conceptually, just poorly executed. New trilogy feels so tired and lacking in originality or imagination, the worst thing Star Wars can be.

 

[starborn427614]

I honestly miss the prequels over most of the shit Disney put out in the new skywalker trilogy, say what you want about how corny, poorly paced, badly written and dated they are. They at least ‘felt’ Like they were trying to expand the Star Wars lore and contributed huge new elements to the universe instead retreading the same original trilogy ground as much as possible as the new Trilogy did. Many of the ideas in the prequel are honestly very solid conceptually, just poorly executed. New trilogy feels so tired and lacking in originality or imagination, the worst thing Star Wars can be.

The prequels and the sequels are basically mirror images of each other. The prequels are (mostly) poorly made but have a ton of soul and interesting concepts and ideas. The sequels are (mostly) well made but have few, if any interesting concepts and ideas.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Another element to the sequels/prequels debate is that the prequels offered new stuff for Star Wars that was used to make new good content.
Meanwhile, the sequels will most likely be ignored cause they introduced stuff that only hurts the setting. Do you think we'll see the hyperspace-tracker, hyperspace ramming or the Star Destroyers with planetkiller lasers ever again, even though all of them are total gamechangers in this setting?

 

[Ishtar]

Another element to the sequels/prequels debate is that the prequels offered new stuff for Star Wars that was used to make new good content.
Meanwhile, the sequels will most likely be ignored cause they introduced stuff that only hurts the setting. Do you think we'll see the hyperspace-tracker, hyperspace ramming or the Star Destroyers with planetkiller lasers ever again, even though all of them are total gamechangers in this setting?

Probably not, beyond New EU retcons or writers hastily scrambling to find justifications for their existence.

 

[King Dead]

People thinking Disney has profitted from Star Wars will never stop being funny.

With Hollywood accounting, who fucking knows what the state of their financials are? It's probably not good, but they're able to cover it up with every trick in the book (and then some), shuffling profits and losses around where they please in order to avoid paying money to those owed it. But that's true of every studio, and I imagine that if it that Gordian knot were ever split open, we'd find that it's all been funny money all along, with all the real money funneled away by executives years ago.

Which kinda reminds me, whatever came of their absurdly expensive Star Wars themed hotels?
IIRC, at least one of the two was finished by the time Covid hit, so the dramatic decrease in tourism and so on must have really thrown their plans under the bus. I doubt they would have ever made a profit from those obscenely costly hotels anyway, given that they cost like a couple hundred million bucks each to build and I simply refuse to believe that there's a shitton of families willing to shell out a grand per day to sleep in a shitty version of a capsule hotel.

The only Disney Wars hotel is the Galactic Starcruiser over at Disney World, and so far there aren't plans for any others. It's not going to open until March, and as covered earlier in the thread, it's not currently shaping up to be the major hit Disney wanted it to be. There have been lots of cancellations, mockery of their early promotional videos, and plenty of people asking what the fuck the point is and whether it could even come close to the five grand minimum price for a two-night stay.

We'll have to see what happens when word of mouth gets out after the first tourists go in March, and while I imagine there will be quite a few consoomers endlessly soyfacing about how awesome it was, I get the feeling general sentiment is going to be a lot more mixed, especially as time goes on and everyone who was actually looking forward to this cycles through.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

The only Disney Wars hotel is the Galactic Starcruiser over at Disney World, and so far there aren't plans for any others. It's not going to open until March, and as covered earlier in the thread, it's not currently shaping up to be the major hit Disney wanted it to be. There have been lots of cancellations, mockery of their early promotional videos, and plenty of people asking what the fuck the point is and whether it could even come close to the five grand minimum price for a two-night stay.

We'll have to see what happens when word of mouth gets out after the first tourists go in March, and while I imagine there will be quite a few consoomers endlessly soyfacing about how awesome it was, I get the feeling general sentiment is going to be a lot more mixed, especially as time goes on and everyone who was actually looking forward to this cycles through.

It has been so long, I am fuzzy on the details. I thought it was actually two hotels, one for each Star Wars park...
Well, guess I remembered wrong. But those parks and this hotel is a furnace for money, too and the Chink Stink certainly didn't help Disney.

 

[Ghostse]

With Hollywood accounting, who fucking knows what the state of their financials are? It's probably not good, but they're able to cover it up with every trick in the book (and then some), shuffling profits and losses around where they please in order to avoid paying money to those owed it. But that's true of every studio, and I imagine that if it that Gordian knot were ever split open, we'd find that it's all been funny money all along, with all the real money funneled away by executives years ago.

I also want to point out again:
That while the movie tickets don't include merch deals, even if we want to ignore Hollywood accounting and hidden promotion costs.
It look Disney the better part of a decade to get their 4 billion dollars back. Given the numbers involved, breaking even over a decade isn't breaking even. Its a huge loss to investors.

This is why their star wars every year got canceled. The only reason you're seeing all these Star Wars series on D+ is because its the only thing they can hope to put butts in seats. Mando did well, so now Disney is now running 8 inch pipe down that hole and pumping hard.
Disney+ is massively expensive, and they are hoping to sell it to investors.

I forget how long it look for Netflix streaming to stop being a huge money hole (and one of the reasons they split it into its own separate fee when it was initially part of a subscription, was so they could quantify) but D+ should expect it to be that long or longer. Netflix had no competitors and access to a marketing list of people who were interested in watching a lot of movies from their DVD service. D+ has a catalog, but is trying to build a customer base from scratch. hence deals like the Verizon one.

anyway, tl;dr
Stop fucking watching D+ & Mando/Booya Fat. You're giving their bean counters the eyeballs they use to justify more Woke Current Year shit.

 

[Wyzzerd]

It's kind of astonishing that nobody is trying to grab up the non-pozzed market. I get that Hollywood is one big orgy of single mindedness but you'd think somebody's greed would win out.

It doesn't have to be some big anti left film, just a basic story where the hero isn't humiliated, diversity isn't forced into it, and don't let any weird sex perverts near it. If they can't come up with an original idea then just don't shit all over whatever franchise you take from.

But I suppose anyone with the will to try that would get thrown out and blacklisted.

 

[Ghostse]

But I suppose anyone with the will to try that would get thrown out and blacklisted.

This part right here. Goddamn Tyler Perry is a protected class™ and for the sin of not deep throating Jew Cock full time (only part time) he and his studio are pretty much blacklisted.

 

[TinCan Wizard]

The prequels and the sequels are basically mirror images of each other. The prequels are (mostly) poorly made but have a ton of soul and interesting concepts and ideas. The sequels are (mostly) well made but have few, if any interesting concepts and ideas.

The ending of EPIII is genuinely beautiful, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

 

[Sneed F91]

Dumb question, if a movie costs as much as the sequels do, has hundreds of people working on it including the best FX artists in the industry, is the film being "well made" really that impressive? Especially if the technology the PT helped innovate in the first place already exists?

This part right here. Goddamn Tyler Perry is a protected class™ and for the sin of not deep throating Jew Cock full time (only part time) he and his studio are pretty much blacklisted.

Tyler Perry is similar to George in a way since they both became successful to make their own production company catering to audiences Hollywood didn't care about before. The guy has his own military base sized studio Marvel shoots MCU shit at now.

The ending of EPIII is genuinely beautiful, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise.

The ending of ROTS makes ANH even better. The beginning of TFA makes ROTJ worse.

It's kind of astonishing that nobody is trying to grab up the non-pozzed market. I get that Hollywood is one big orgy of single mindedness but you'd think somebody's greed would win out.

It doesn't have to be some big anti left film, just a basic story where the hero isn't humiliated, diversity isn't forced into it, and don't let any weird sex perverts near it. If they can't come up with an original idea then just don't shit all over whatever franchise you take from.

But I suppose anyone with the will to try that would get thrown out and blacklisted.

Working in Hollywood is expensive. If you can't make the right connections and please the right investors with the right ideas, you can't get funding.

 

[Miller]

I am Booba Fatt, the crime lord with no crimes on record.

Don’t shit on my OC, I’ll go to Filoni and have him make Blorba canon……. oh wait
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>In this house Booba Fatt is the daimyo. End of story!

 

[jspit2.0]

With Hollywood accounting, who fucking knows what the state of their financials are? It's probably not good, but they're able to cover it up with every trick in the book (and then some), shuffling profits and losses around where they please in order to avoid paying money to those owed it. But that's true of every studio, and I imagine that if it that Gordian knot were ever split open, we'd find that it's all been funny money all along, with all the real money funneled away by executives years ago.

The only Disney Wars hotel is the Galactic Starcruiser over at Disney World, and so far there aren't plans for any others. It's not going to open until March, and as covered earlier in the thread, it's not currently shaping up to be the major hit Disney wanted it to be. There have been lots of cancellations, mockery of their early promotional videos, and plenty of people asking what the fuck the point is and whether it could even come close to the five grand minimum price for a two-night stay.

We'll have to see what happens when word of mouth gets out after the first tourists go in March, and while I imagine there will be quite a few consoomers endlessly soyfacing about how awesome it was, I get the feeling general sentiment is going to be a lot more mixed, especially as time goes on and everyone who was actually looking forward to this cycles through.

It's the ultimate sunk cost. They spent a fortune on Star Wars. They now have to justify that and will continue to have to justify it.

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

I honestly don't understand why so many adults are so obsessed with a lego game.

And almost every comment is identical which is just eerie.

And all for a series of games that play exactly the same with the only thing this one brings is bigger maps and more vehicle shit. Part of the charm of the original Lego Star Wars was that it was a cutesy silent remake of the films for your kids with some adorable moments. Now with the shitty dialogue, voice acting and trendy humor, it doesn't even have that going for it (edit: oh joy, an optional mumble mode, I'm sure that changes everything) and at the end of the day its still just being used to prop up and boost the appeal of the crappier new films, and its not like kids are the most excited ones for this game, since its mostly an unusual number of adults creaming themselves over this game's continuously postponed release for the last two years. And whatever gets pumped out will just be an inferior remake of the original with a lot of corny dialogue if the TFA lego game wasn't a big enough example. Also watch as Doomcock tries and spin this to try and find secret messages of how Disney will totally be disowning the sequels and DisCanon.

I am excited for this game personally. I will agree though that a lot of the hype is weird as there are definitely some overly passionate fans, but I get why it is big.

LEGO games, for better or worse were sort of a defining thing for the Late Millennial, early Zoomer. I feel like everyone around my age has at one point played the trio of LEGO Star Wars, Indiana Jones and Batman. They were a big aspect of the late 6th-early 7th gens, and given that we are now hovering in the 20 year nostalgia mark, many are excited to relive a bit of childhood. My main exposure to Star Wars was the Complete Saga, so in a way, LEGO is my Star Wars and my largest connection to the franchise.

The game looks pretty well made, they are definitely adding a lot to the LEGO formula in this entry. It also has a good amount of polish, which has become very hit or miss with LEGO once you enter the LEGO Batman 2 era. I used to play a lot of these games as they were platformers in a period were the genre was dead, not to mention the fact that I had a Wii U and they were the only 3rd party, so I really like these titles. Actually, I think I may want to start a thread for them…..hmmm…

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

I have the PS2 prequel lego game and it was incredibly boring. I just don't get the fascination with legos.

The new walking simulator Eclipse game looks cool, though. It seems more prequel than 420 Republic.