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Make my monthly check on comicsgate to see Nasser is working with Donal again?

For real? After all the sperging about your money?

*sigh* I hope it works out better this time for you, I really do.
We came to an agreement and signed a contract. I think things will work out better this time. We both want to give the fans the sequel they deserve and asked for.
 
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You know they have people in Japan at your price point?

I mean I need to go buy this so I can make a qualified comment on this....knowing your work I could see how this art tone might be the right sweet spot but I think you could have gotten better art (not saying this is bad but...I think you could have gotten better for your story)
Such as?

I mean, there's really not that many English-speaking artists who are talented at the manga style on JDA's price point. People like Ben Dunn. or even Tim Lim are right out.

Maybe Keung Lee? I won't argue against the idea his manga-style artwork is better than Quaff. It is. I just know if he cares to collaborate using somebody elses' script, or how much he costs.

Thematically though it still makes no sense to me, because the overlap between the target audience for 1970s Ditko/Buscema tributes like Jesse White-drawn Deus Vult and the audience for teenage isekai manga (I'd imagine) is zero.
You're probably right, but I don't think that's what this is. At least that's not my impression. Unless you're talking just about the Deus Vault bundling, which is an OPTIONAL tier.

Deus Vault is a Buscema tribute. This appears to me to be more straight-up... I dunno... Rumiko Takahashi. Tongue firmly in cheek.

I think you might also misapprehend what isekai is. The whole point is "fish out of water." A Japanese high school girl sent back to the time of the Crusades fits squarely within the genre. There's no crossover with Buscema here. Buscema's characters were of their own time/universe. Conan himself is a product of the Hyborian Age.

If he gave the girl a Type 64 rifle, he'd basically have GATE. Which was VERY popular (and a fun watch that I highly recommend).

 
Such as?

I mean, there's really not that many English-speaking artists who are talented at the manga style on JDA's price point. People like Ben Dunn. or even Tim Lim are right out.

Maybe Keung Lee? I won't argue against the idea his manga-style artwork is better than Quaff. It is. I just know if he cares to collaborate using somebody elses' script, or how much he costs.


You're probably right, but I don't think that's what this is. At least that's not my impression. Unless you're talking just about the Deus Vault bundling.

Deus Vault is a Buscema tribute. This appears to me to be more straight-up... I dunno.... Rumiko Takahashi. Tongue firmly in cheek.

I think you might also misapprehend what isekai is. The whole point is "fish out of water." A Japanese high school girl sent back to the time of the Crusades fits squarely within the genre. There's no crossover with Buscema here. Buscema's characters were of their own time/universe. Conan himself is a product of the Hyborian Age.

If he gave the girl a Type 64 rifle, he'd basically have GATE. Which was VERY popular (and a fun watch that I highly recommend).


I mean there are websites were Jon can hire actual Mangka in Japan who speak English (to some degree) on his PP
 
I mean there are websites were Jon can hire actual Mangka in Japan who speak English (to some degree) on his PP
And that's less of a PITA or cheaper than working with Quaff, who he knows a lot better and can help promote the book on his show with regular appearances?

I mean, sure. Most actual manga artists are undoubtedly more talented at that style than anybody in CG (or just about anybody in the US, period). Like, no shit. But logistically, with the need for close collaboration, that seems like a nightmare.

I'm late I know but why does Quartering care what EVS thinks? Frosk would be a big draw for his channel yet he decided to drop her so he could have a gay beef with a comic book artist?
Because Hamburger is a thin-skinned faggot. He tried to pick a fight with Metokur over a slight once (which was a trap to try and get Jim's channel taken down), and it ended very badly for Quartering.


Were I @FROG, I'd just remind Quartering that he got punched by a dude in a dress and walk away from the whole thing. He's a bitch. Let him fuck up the Frosk thing. That'll mainly be on him.
 
And that's less of a PITA or cheaper than working with Quaff, who he knows a lot better and can help promote the book on his show with regular appearances?

I mean, sure. Most actual manga artists are undoubtedly more talented at that style than anybody in CG (or just about anybody in the US, period). Like, no shit. But logistically, with the need for close collaboration, that seems like a nightmare.


Because Hamburger is a thin-skinned faggot. He tried to pick a fight with Metokur over a slight once (which was a trap to try and get Jim's channel taken down), and it ended very badly for Quartering.


Were I @FROG, I'd just remind Quartering that he got punched by a dude in a dress and walk away from the whole thing. He's a bitch. Let him fuck up the Frosk thing. That'll mainly be on him.
For such a physically large man, Jeremy sure holds his booze like a 90lbs female. That Metokur teardown was viscous.

There was also this exchange on the recent JACK show:

Venti: The problem with guys who are 6'5" and taller is they make it their whole personality.
Jeremy: I mean...I'm 6'5...and I don't mention it that often.
Jon: Wait you're 6'5"?
Jeremy: Like 6'3", 6'4"...

The self-awareness of a single-cell organism.

She cancelled him, not the other way around.
You ever consider that your criticism about Quarterpounder platforming Frosk might have gone over a bit better if it didn't come from the same guy who gave airtime to Kevin Logan, Scott Kurtz, Jason Yungbluth, Taylor C. Mitchell, Alexis Filth, Renfamous, Dan Shahin and Taylor Talks Comics?

This was a really weird hill for you to die on. Or to get slightly inconvenienced on. Or to even climb in the first place. Whatever, I'm glad it's over.
 
Frog's illogical PTSD over Snyder's appearance on G&G is causing him to make the ridiculous connections to the Frostkaren situation.
I'm late I know but why does Quartering care what EVS thinks? Frosk would be a big draw for his channel yet he decided to drop her so he could have a gay beef with a comic book artist?
Ethan is quite convinced there is a "soy-based", Vast Moderate Conspiracy against him featuring the disaffected liberal nerd turned "right wing" controlled opposition YouTube grifter syndicate that he just. can't. seem. to. get. along. with. This includes Quarterpounder and the Friday Night Tights core members, apparently.



Wonder who the mole is feeding him intel or if these are just assumptions on his part. They wouldn't be entirely implausible that they're organizing against him, but not sure I'd go to open war without a few receipts. In answer to his inquiry, no. I don't believe Quarterpounder showed up on FlashCast. Seeming to grasp at straws is not a good look, by the way. Makes you look paranoid and you certainly don't want to be a weirdo pointing fingers on the Internet.

This whole thing is just gross, gay, and lame. The utter confusion is real from casuals in the FNT-related chats when the topic of CG/EVS comes up and they can't understand what the beef is over or why these guys can't get along. I used to think it was mere personality conflicts: a creator clashing with a bunch of uncreative, upjumped consumers. Neither Gary nor Az appear to like creative people very much (Gary has made the tell-tale "what we do is actually creative" remark more than once). As shitty as all that is, it's a more assuring dynamic as creatives are often egocentric and mild-to-moderately neurotic while fans can be entitled, fickle, and often motivated to tear-down their idols. It's the shittiness we know and it kind of makes sense as a mere clash of personalities.
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5 hours in Photoshop.

As it drags on there may be something to the argument for it being more politics and agendas: rival camps vying for the lucrative and inevitable Politics is Downstream from Culture™ bux that are sure to flow from on high in the coming years. This is a shittiness most of us do not know nor do we particularly want to. Ethan could presumably exploit the politics of this and win if he wanted to. He's way ahead of these guys in that regard. He'd have to be consistent and make it his goal to bury these chucklefucks, but he's no doubt got the cred and they simply don't once you scratch the surface. They have a string of moderate-profile guests, a decent intro, a good time slot, and >muh brand.

If FNT ever do make it "big time" off of YouTube whoever buys in could literally push-out everyone but Chrissie Mayr and be better off for it. If you've ever seen her comedy you'd know that she would then no doubt re-brand FNT as a reference to her vagina and not the nerd culture that she openly admits she knows next to nothing about, but it doesn't change the fact that she's just about the only one involved with any demonstrable talent. Of course there are peripheral guests like CriticalDrinker and Eric July who are more than mere complainers but the rest are truly zeroes. As for The Quartering, he seems to be in a better position to exploit drama due to the nature of his channel but he also appears to be somewhat of a problem drinker so if @FROG is correct he may just be in it for the sport of making enemies. Regardless, it seems like a mad dash to some arbitrary amount of Fuck You Money that these grifters want to make and that EVS -through his occasional shade-throwing and inebriated hot takes- threatens to undermine. Gary appears to fear and loathe EVS on a personal level (and that's more than enough). Again, all Quartering/FNT have is hype and their channels, which is not based around making/shaping culture. It's based around commenting on it. Hence, the mad push to get behind Eric July, I suspect. When the money at the next level comes to kick the tires, they can trot out based black libertarian and his RippaVerse™ to address these concerns.

Or maybe this is over-analysis and it's just petty, gay Internet slap-fighting. I dunno.

For such a physically large man, Jeremy sure holds his booze like a 90lbs female.
Only he knows for sure, but Jeremy appears to have a drinking problem. Generally, outside of a brief window of sowing one's wild oats as a youth, getting shitfaced drunk and publicly humiliating yourself through broadcasting inter-personal drama, maliciously divulging the contents of private conversations in fit of pique, slurring your speech to the point that strangers notice, doing cringe Irish goodbyes, etc. is more than enough to qualify yourself to the benign cult of Alcoholics Anonymous. This appears to be something that's just normalized and accepted amongst streamers, though.

Of course, I'd be remiss if I neglected to mention Cecil being right there with him. In fact, as soon as Cecil brought up the fact he was taking pain meds while drinking he should have been booted from JACK Show the other night. Friends don't let friends pass out on stream and choke on their own vomit. That is assuming they all didn't want him dead in the first place. Ethan appeared to revel in the shameful display, so who knows? Work or shoot, it's this sort of degeneracy that could marginalize CG/EVS in the above-mentioned political power plays, though.





Slowly back away, Dan Lawlis:


 
For such a physically large man, Jeremy sure holds his booze like a 90lbs female. That Metokur teardown was viscous.
That was the incident where I realized Jeremy is a gigantic pile of shit. He wanted to go on Metokur's show so that he (or his idiot fanbase) could step out of line and flag Metokur's channel down or have it demonetized. Metokur calls him on it at about the 32:05 mark.

It never fails. So many of these "anti-SJW" talking heads are prone to use the same tactics when cornered or threatened. So much of this culture war is a charade. It's tiring.

You ever consider that your criticism about Quarterpounder platforming Frosk might have gone over a bit better if it didn't come from the same guy who gave airtime to Kevin Logan, Scott Kurtz, Jason Yungbluth, Taylor C. Mitchell, Alexis Filth, Renfamous, Dan Shahin and Taylor Talks Comics?

This was a really weird hill for you to die on. Or to get slightly inconvenienced on. Or to even climb in the first place. Whatever, I'm glad it's over.
Well, you could make the argument that "that was then, and this is now." Maybe FROG learned something from all that. The whole thing about SJWs clipping shit out of context seemed a bit autobiographical. Still, I don't know if he fully comprehends that's gonna happen regardless.

But I agree. Who gives a shit if Quarterpounder has Frosk on? Better yet, who gives a shit about Quaterpounder? Or Frosk, for that matter? The only time I care about Quarterpounder is when he does something retarded I can laugh at. The Frosk debate might have delivered that, and now it looks like it's not gonna happen.

C'est la vie.
 
JDA was shrewd to do this, if I'm being perfectly honest.

They say psychopaths are more calculating.

That makes me 50% more likely to buy it

What's 50% of zero?

I mean, there's really not that many English-speaking artists who are talented at the manga style on JDA's price point.

Obviously. :smug:

But logistically, with the need for close collaboration, that seems like a nightmare.

But, didn't you bring up Ody a page ago? Are Greece and Australia any less suitable for 'close collaboration' than Japan and America?
 
But, didn't you bring up Ody a page ago? Are Greece and Australia any less suitable for 'close collaboration' than Japan and America?
I spoke to Ody's artwork being good (IMO, of course). Just like I'd agree a real mangaka would likely produce far superior work than what the Quaff could do (at his current talent level).

Given that Xenotype was a backwards printed train wreck, and I'd say the level of close collaboration on that project was less than stellar (with each side blaming the other). Wouldn't you?
 
Somebody superchatted me asking to look into this, so I thought I'd post it here. DA Talks isn't hiring a lawyer, right? So why did he make this GoFundMe, and why did he steal the money? Back then, I donated $50, because at the time DA was getting along with comicsgate and all, and I wanted to help him against Preston. Since then, he's turned on CG, turned on me, and decided not to hire a lawyer.
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Somebody superchatted me asking to look into this, so I thought I'd post it here. DA Talks isn't hiring a lawyer, right? So why did he make this GoFundMe, and why did he steal the money? Back then, I donated $50, because at the time DA was getting along with comicsgate and all, and I wanted to help him against Preston. Since then, he's turned on CG, turned on me, and decided not to hire a lawyer.
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This topic is being discussed over on this thread: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/preston-poulter-et-al-v-ali-dean-assaf-et-al-2021.91503/

Try not to mess up the ComicsGate thread with your valid questions of whether or not Vikki and Dean stole that GoFundMe money, when you can ask about it there.
 
Make my monthly check on comicsgate to see Nasser is working with Donal again?

For real? After all the sperging about your money?

*sigh* I hope it works out better this time for you, I really do.
Best part is Nasser is running the campaign, so expect a lot of spergouts when Donal blows through his deadline.

PS: About the Frog/Quarterburger slapfight: I get the impression there are two sides in the GG/CG/FM/WW blobosphere: There are the True Believers (EVS, Rippa, Mr H, Critical Drinker, YBZ) who stumbled into the grift and the grifters (QP, YF, TUG, the FNT and G&G) or Content Creators (Clownfish TV, Midnight's Edge) who stumbled into The Cause.
Mind you, not all True Believers got there because of politics, some are dedicated to the idea of the Fandom.

As their movement was growing, they were fine and well. The moment Trump lost and people lost all interest in comics, Star wars and started getting bored about Wokeness in general there is unrest on who gets the conservative simpbucks.
This is why @FROG acts like a bitch.
 
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Best part is Nasser is running the campaign, so expect a lot of spergouts when Donal blows through his deadline.

PS: About the Frog/Quarterburger slapfight: I get the impression there are two sides in the GG/CG/FM/WW blobosphere: There are the True Believers (EVS, Rippa, Mr H, Critical Drinker, YBZ) who stumbled into the grift and the grifters (QP, YF, TUG, the FNT and G&G) or Content Creators (Clownfish TV, Midnight's Edge) who stumbled into The Cause.
Mind you, not all True Believers got there because of politics, some are dedicated to the idea of the Fandom.

As their movement was growing, they were fine and well. The moment Trump lost and people lost all interest in comics, Star wars and started getting bored about Wokeness in general there is unrest on who gets the conservative simpbucks.
This is why @FROG acts like a bitch.
I don't think it's entirely fair to pair the content creators and grifters. Content creators are pretty honest about not really being into the culture war beyond the limited capacity of the subjects they talk about, and it's pretty clear that most of them are centrists, or even 90's liberal, while people like Quarterpounder, TUG, G&G, etc, go hard on the culture war talking points all the time, but engage in the same corporate slop consoomerism as the average normie and usually recoil from anything right wing that gets remotely spicy or edgy.

I find the former to be a lot more tolerable. They're honest about who they are and what they're doing.
 
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