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The Queen back at Windsor after hospital stay

She is "in good spirits" after a one-night stay for preliminary medical checks, Buckingham Palace says.

www.bbc.co.uk

The Queen spent Wednesday night in hospital for preliminary medical checks and is now back at Windsor Castle, Buckingham Palace has said.
The 95-year-old monarch returned from hospital at lunchtime on Thursday and is "in good spirits", the palace added.
The Queen was said to be "disappointed" after cancelling a visit to Northern Ireland on Wednesday.
She was given medical advice to rest for a few days, after a busy schedule of public engagements.
In a statement on Thursday night, Buckingham Palace said: "Following medical advice to rest for a few days, the Queen attended hospital on Wednesday afternoon for some preliminary investigations, returning to Windsor Castle at lunchtime today, and remains in good spirits."

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The Queen was seen by specialists at the private King Edward VII's Hospital in central London, about 19 miles (32km) from Windsor. Her admittance is understood not to be related to coronavirus.
The overnight stay was said to be for practical reasons and the Queen was back at her desk undertaking light duties on Thursday afternoon.
The King Edward VII's is a private hospital in London's Marylebone used by senior royals, including the Queen's husband, the late Duke of Edinburgh, who received treatment there earlier this year.
It has been a busy period of official engagements for the Queen.
She was pictured hosting a Global Investment Summit at Windsor Castle on Tuesday evening alongside Prime Minister Boris Johnson.
An official record of the Queen's diary showed at least 15 other formal events during October.
On Wednesday, a Buckingham Palace spokesman said the monarch had "reluctantly accepted medical advice to rest for the next few days".
He said the Queen was "disappointed that she will no longer be able to visit Northern Ireland" - which would have involved an overnight stay.
She is expected to lead a royal delegation to the Glasgow COP26 climate change summit in two weeks' time.
Earlier this week, the Queen declined a magazine's award of Oldie of the Year, saying "you are only as old as you feel".
She "politely but firmly" turned down the award, but sent the Oldie magazine a message with her "warmest best wishes".
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Just a preliminary thread for now, but it's worth keeping an eye on, pretty sure this was how it started with Philip...

 

[Solid Snek]

It gets even funnier because all the Welsh independence parties are pro mass immigration. They are proud of Welsh culture, but not so proud as to prevent people who are not culturally Welsh from moving in

That's an actual plaid cymru poster. The party member in the picture Sahar Al-Faifi was suspended in 2019 for anti semitic remarks on Twitter and had to sensitivity training

It's the generational tragedy of the Welsh people, so it is.

"Well, sure, I didn't like the Romans! But those Jutes, eh, they seem alright; surely if we let them settle, they'll let us live in peace!"

Some Welsh won't miss their German overlord if the coof takes her, it's true. But Arthur is not returning anytime soon.

 

[Brahma]

What the fuck is up with the pro-independence parties the UK has? The one thing Plaid Cyrmu and the SNP want aside from the English out is foreigners in. FFS they're making the DUP look sane.

Same in Ireland. Amongst some circles Sinn Fein are known as the "Brits out, blacks in" party

From a motion passed at a party conference back in 1998:

Sinn Fein views with concern the increasing emergence of openly racist sentiment in Ireland. We support the calls for an immediate amnesty for all asylum seekers in the 26 counties. Sinn Fein will work for the achievement of the optimum position of no restriction on immigration in Ireland.

 

[Get Fisted]

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That's an actual plaid cymru poster. The party member in the picture Sahar Al-Faifi was suspended in 2019 for anti semitic remarks on Twitter and had to sensitivity training

If you posted this on an imageboard like, fifteen years ago I would have shit myself laughing because it looks like absolute nonsense. From "What the fuck, is that what the Welsh language looks like?" to "That is clearly not any Welsh-looking motherfucker I've ever seen."

 

[Übertroon]

Same in Ireland. Amongst some circles Sinn Fein are known as the "Brits out, blacks in" party

From a motion passed at a party conference back in 1998:

Northern Ireland is at the current rate going to be the bastion of Irish culture

 

[Character from a movie]

Last year I predicted she was going to die on Christmas. She's still alive, so this year I predict she's either going to die before her birthday (April 21) or a short time after, like in May or June.

 

[JustSomeDong]

GodHorse paste save the Queen!

 

[tehpope]

She's gonna die right before memorial day.

 

[SaintChristopher69]

My money is on already dead from old age. If they claim it was covid that got her they might even be able to use that for another throw of the coof dice.

One sip of McDonald's Sprite and it's wraps.

 

[MacMasonry]

Crossing my fingers for a crab rave.
Eid, ziL neeuQ, eid

 

[BelUwUga]

2/23/2022 at approximately 7:00pm GMT

You heard it here first.

 

[Absolutetense]

Uh oh this is bad, they give the queen horse dewormer:

Original tweet:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CaldronPool/status/1495738643180568577

 

[Snekposter]

Same in Ireland. Amongst some circles Sinn Fein are known as the "Brits out, blacks in" party

From a motion passed at a party conference back in 1998:

You know what? Fuck it, if the Irish, Scots, and Welsh are going to be like that they deserve the boot of the Englishman upon their necks 24/7 until the end of time. Only way to keep idiots like them safe is under constant supervision after all.

 

[Adolphin]

Good riddance old sod.

 

[GoingGrink]

You know what? Fuck it, if the Irish, Scots, and Welsh are going to be like that they deserve the boot of the Englishman upon their necks 24/7 until the end of time. Only way to keep idiots like them safe is under constant supervision after all.

Implying that the English aren't the exact same way. These so-called "Celtic nationalists" support mass immigration because they want to be seen as "progressive" as England is. Take a look at London and any other major English city. England is hardly a bastion of ethnic nationalism. In terms of demographics, it's much worse off than any of the Celtic countries.

 

[Snekposter]

Implying that the English aren't the exact same way. These so-called "Celtic nationalists" support mass immigration because they want to be seen as "progressive" as England is. Take a look at London and any other major English city. England is hardly a bastion of ethnic nationalism. In terms of demographics, it's much worse off than any of the Celtic countries.

Why kick out the English only to become the English though? All these parties have become the very thing they swore to destroy.

 

[Persian Carpet Salesman]

She'll die the day before the platinum jubilee so as to cause the most disruption.

 

[Queen Elizabeth II]

She'll die the day before the platinum jubilee so as to cause the most disruption.

I'd be very suprised if it happened before then the public would be told.

I don't think it would be any overstatement to say that the death of Elizabeth Windsor would mark the end of an age, and it will probably be a media event with coverage on par with that of the twin towers and may even go on longer than that. The BBC reportedly has, and constantly revises a full two weeks worth of twenty four hour coverage of her life up to the point of her death; and with the first "proper" coronation in almost three quarters of a century (other monarch's ceremonies across the world are very modest in comparison) even if Charles keeps it on the cheap it's going to have every camera around the world on it.

That media blackout could be very useful in keeping other things undercover, as well as the fact it would look better if she made it to the platinum jubilee at least for posterity.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Isn't there supposed to be a bunch of programmed mourning that happens once Liz leaves this world? Like you can only watch documentaries about her and you can't laugh or be happy during certain time frame after she passes

IIRC only sports and comedy got off the air when the Queen dies (I forget for how long, IIRC either 2 weeks or an entire month).

There will be a ton of news coverage and retrospectives but in general, there will be a nationwide period of morning as far as mourning Liz and the transition to Charles as King.

 

[CWCissey]

IIRC only sports and comedy got off the air when the Queen dies (I forget for how long, IIRC either 2 weeks or an entire month).

There will be a ton of news coverage and retrospectives but in general, there will be a nationwide period of morning as far as mourning Liz and the transition to Charles as King.

It's not mandatory either. Netflix and other streaming services will go on and more than likely do absolutely gangbusters once everyone gets sick of the talking heads repeating everything every half an hour.

 

[MirrorNoir]

I hope MeAgain is disinvited to her funeral but of course she won't be, so I hope they stick her way back so she can seethe the whole time. Hopefully Charles will retain the tiny amount of cojones he gained after they disparaged and maligned the royals to Ooprah and lets William and Kate visibly snub that bitch.

I also hope Liz does some typically classy shit like leave them some income and lands in a place she knows they hate conditional upon them spending 11 months out of the year on it or they lose it forever. Or instructs that Kate has to wear the Princess Michael's tacky negro brooch to her funeral in exchange for some of those fabulous jewels Liz has. You know, the hilarious things wealthy people think of when they're making their wills and they want to stick it to someone, for the the last time.

1. Insert jokes about Megan, upon hearing of Liz's death, calling her powerful as fuck (((elite))) friends to arrange a mass killing terrorist strike on Liz's funeral done EXPLICITLY to massacre Charles, Camilla, William, Kate, and W/K's kids so that Megan can finally be queen with Harry as her cucked King slave.

2. Liz actually likes Kate, so I doubt there will be any fuckery against her and William. There may be some final fuckery towards Charles though (Liz and Charles have long had a very strained mother/son relationship even before Diana came along; by all accounts Liz was actively resentful towards Charles due to the fact that he was a constant reminder of her mortality due to the fact that he would take her place on the throne). But I could see Liz pushing for SOME sense of last ditched deathbed reconciliation among the royals as her final act. How this would include Harry/Megan I don't know, though if you consider recent events involving Prince Philip (who was Liz's favorite of her kids) had his own problems magically go away recently (the murder of the Epstein goon who may have had the remaining copies of Epstein's dirt on Philip and the financial settlement on his rape case to make it go away), I would not be shocked if Megan doesn't get told "fake confess to adultery and leave Harry plus get paid a one time only X-Amount of money to divorce with no alimony and cede full custody of the kids to Harry or you'll turn up dead from an "accidental" overdose" in the coming months or so.

People view the Queen as almost superhuman. She's the only monarch remaining who still has that air of one from the era when people believed in the Divine Right of Kings, and is treated as such. Whereas we look at Charles and William as being very much human, flawed characters. It's difficult to imagine people singing God Save the King with as much fervour as they did GSTQ, or referring in flowery terms to "His Majesty King Charles III". But the laws of monarchy dictate that is what must be done.

When Charles takes the throne, they either astroturf him into popularity (Probably using his climate change activism to get him cred with the yoof), or fail and face a new crisis of republicanism. Though in all honesty I think the public disdain for Charles has died down in recent years. If the Queen had died in the mid-00s when he had just married Camilla and Diana was not long since dead, there could have been a real problem. But people have gotten used to Chuck's wiley ways now.

They've already started sanitizing his relationship with Camilla. In the last twenty years, Camilla has gone from "That Whore" to "Charles' soulmate who Nasty Lizzie wouldn't let him marry, resulting in him being made to marry Diana instead in a bad match that made bother Charles and Diana miserable.

Plus there is the Crown, which in it's most recent two seasons has largely painted Charles 100% in a flattering light even when they fudge details to appease the "Diana did nothing wrong" crowd (like claim Charles didn't give up Camilla and was still seeing her after the wedding, when in truth Charles did give Camilla up and didn't see her for a couple of years before resuming their relationship once Charles gave up on his marriage).

The Queen's arms should be tan, not blue.

In an increasingly plausible future where Charles ascends to the throne, the prudent, self-sacrificial course of action would be for him to play the unpopular role (at least within his extended family) of reformer, slimming downing and modernising parts of the monarchy, allowing his son, William, to eventually assume the mantle of king without any bad blood.

He would also do well to belatedly assume his mother's air of neutrality, which has established the monarchy as a point of stability and national identity over several decades of social and political upheaval. I am not a monarchist but I see this as the function of the Royal Family, beyond, of course, drawing tourists to the gates of Buckingham Palace, where a small number can be rounded up and sacrificed to various Roman Gods to ensure the continued semi-prosperity of our backsliding nation. For a public figure, Elizabeth has managed to maintain an impressively inscrutable veneer. You can infer what her opinions might be on certain subjects, but who the hell knows what she really thinks. She could be an ardent Napalm Death fan, or enjoy the novel adaptations of the Police Academy films, but you'll never hear about it.

In practice, Charles has a track record of sticking his oar into political issues and is liable to undermine support for the monarchy and create problems for himself.

This was explored by Andrew Davies in his novel 'To Play the King', which forms part of his House of Cards trilogy (the book was dramatized for the UK version of House of Cards) in which a thinly-veiled Charles ascends to the throne and immediately begins banging heads with Prime Minister Urquhart. It does not go well for the newly-crowned monarch.

Actually it does very well for Not Charles in the book; granted he gives up the throne, but in the book he does so WILLINGLY so he can fuck with Urquhart as a private citizen with it even implied he's going to run for a Parliament seat and potentially become PM. Not to mention that Not-Charles, in the book, has a HUGE amount of blackmail material on Urquhart, including his wife's adultery and blackmailing Not-Diana over not paying taxes on money made selling designer clothing gifted to her by fashion houses to friends under the table. The book version of "To Play the King" ends with Urquhart 100% shitting his pants, realizing that his attack on Not-Charles backfired on him and that he's 100% at Not-Charles' mercy towards whether or not he'll make life hell for Urquhart in the upcoming snap election and beyond.

The TV show meanwhile, jetisoned that entire happy ending (as they did the original HoC novel ending where Urquhart an-heroes himself instead of throwing Mattie to her doom) by having Urquhart win flawless victory and forces Not-Charles to resign after the snap election goes well for the Torries.