Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Male Idiot]

it's not actually, there are very few hard core Slav nationalists in Russia, and I am not talking the monarchists under shit-piss-cum flag (literally white-yellow-brown View attachment 3004699). Every one of them have been saying, from 2014, the policy is fucking disaster. White slavs are rapidly replaced by econ migrants from near-East. Youth with potential leaves to cities and then abroad. Economy is shit and Russian villages/towns outside of bigger cities have been dying wholesale. And now on top of that, the weakening Slav world is being fractured for no reason, which will last for many generations.

Those are the real Slav etnonationalists. The only people Putin makes hard are older USSR-masturbators who failed in life (and thus reminiss of better times when they were younger and they were paid for working 9-5) and revisionists who never lived in USSR but think that it was paradise. Most of them think that better USSR times are just around the corner and Putin will rebuild USSR (and by extension their lives) ... you just need to wait few more years and fight evil capitalists, ad noseum.

Not saying it isn't an unfortunate shade of yellow, but that is black not brown.

 

[Fcret]

Please god give the americans some balls and have them send thousands of troops into ukraine so that WW3 starts and i get to watch millions of people die in nuclear fire from the comfort of my own neet cave whilst drinking hot tea and eating spicy beef jerky.

This is basically never going to happen. Even at the peak of the Cold War, the US's role in NATO was never to put many troops on the ground but instead provide logistics, technology, and material aid to anti-Soviet countries in Europe to pursue their own ground war.

The US isn't a land power and it's well aware of that fact. Hence why NATO is currently in the sad state it's in because one of the pillars of it (European land armies that can be bolstered by US support) are nonfunctional.

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Please god give the americans some balls and have them send thousands of troops into ukraine so that WW3 starts and i get to watch millions of people die in nuclear fire from the comfort of my own neet cave whilst drinking hot tea and eating spicy beef jerky.

Why are you like this?

 

[Simpadoo]

Oh nooo, not our faggoterinos...
Seriously, this is one of the most pathetic attempt at propaganda from the US.
'Member when the US "intelligence" said that Russia had a list of american targets in Afghanistan and it turned out to be total bullshit?

The funniest part of that is when the Biden administration literally gives the Afghanis a kill list. Lol

 

[Greyfield]

The reason is Putin is dissing Lenin and praising Stalin is because of Lenin's foundational fuck up of the Soviet Union 100 years ago.

There wasn't supposed to be a "Ukraine", the Soviet Union wasn't supposed to be the insane pseudo federalist bullshit it turned out to be, it was just supposed to be a socialist Russian Empire. Instead Lenin made a bad bet and created the conditions for its eventual dissolution. If he had just listened to Stalin, we wouldn't be having this issue at all. For this reason Putin, who is obsessed with Soviet history (and who's grandfather was a cook for both Lenin and Stalin), will always resent Lenin.

Source

 

[DumbDude42]

"Kek he wont touch ukraine"

The long peace has been a disaster because it's rotted everyone's brains into thinking war is not possible. All Putin has to do is be reasonably sure enough that NATO won't honor its commitments when he moves in. And given the current state of NATO, who can fucking blame him for being able to make that determination?

War is always a possibility and you're living in some kind of delusional boomer end of history fever dream if you believe otherwise.

yeah
if russia goes for estonia and latvia next, that will be the litmus test for NATO. it will show whether the alliance is credible and serious, or whether it is a meme

 

[Total Annihilation]

Yeah, war sucks and all; but I think we can agree that this is the prelude to…

A GREATER POLAND

 

[Male Idiot]

Yeah, war sucks and all; but I think we can agree that this is the prelude to…

A GREATER POLAND
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Can into space! KURVA!

 

[The golden neckbeard]

That tank factory is useless for Russia. It's only geared to build and repair obsolete T-64 and T-84 tanks that no one really wants. The only reason why Ukraine is using them is that they can't afford anything better.

A lot of industries in Ukraine will be useless if there are no willing and able people to run them. I still can't see any genuine benefit for Russia from anything that they are doing.

Apparently Russia doesn't think so. Looks like they are building a sizable force to take that city

Take the tank factory out of it. Its a huge city with a large ethnic Russian population that got left behind when the Soviet Union collapsed.

There are tons of reasons why Russia would want Ukrainian clay....first and foremost would be denying NATO that same clay.

 

[DumbDude42]

I still can't see any genuine benefit for Russia from anything that they are doing.

gaining territory is a benefit
gaining dozens of millions of population under your control is also a benefit
gaining access to the resources and industrial capacity of the conquered area is another benefit
ukraines economy may not be the best in the world, but it's more than nothing

 

[IamnottheNSA]

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This is almost the gunt flag.

 

[Kaede Did Nothing Wrong]

War is always a possibility and you're living in some kind of delusional boomer end of history fever dream if you believe otherwise.

younger generations have it too imo. idk how much other countries but americans are trained to only think about the word in binary. federal government good, putin bad, or vice versa. or there has to be a "good" side to root for.

 

[дядя Боря]

The reason is Putin is dissing Lenin and praising Stalin is because of Lenin's foundational fuck up of the Soviet Union 100 years ago.

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There wasn't supposed to be a "Ukraine", the Soviet Union wasn't supposed to be the insane pseudo federalist bullshit it turned out to be, it was just supposed to be a socialist Russian Empire. Instead Lenin made a bad bet and created the conditions for its eventual dissolution. If he had just listened to Stalin, we wouldn't be having this issue at all. For this reason Putin, who is obsessed with Soviet history (and who's grandfather was a cook for both Lenin and Stalin), will always resent Lenin.

Source

That's bullshit, before USSR those nations were deeply distinct. There are memoirs of bolshevick comrades coming from Petrograd to ... Donetsk region and lamenting that no one spoke Russian and basically going back. When you are going to non-slav regions like 'stans, it's even worse, language barrier was greater, as was national identity. There is a reason why you need to break down a big country into regions.

The second part for federating into republics is that at least officially, bolshevicks prided themselves as the ideology of multiculturalism and inclusion, equality of all workers. Division was only between classes, not races or ethnicities or sexes. This is why a lot of people from nations under colonial rule would buy into this shit, being an individual country but withing the larger alliance under commie rule. Globohomo was never popular, especially in the past.

While the official line was multiculturalism, Russian language and everything Russian was promoted the fuck out as superior, state language and mass resettlement of Russian speakers. To this day, most Warsaw pact faggots can speak a few words in Russian.

 

[Fougaro]

No one's asking the real question: If a no-shit war between Russia and Ukraine breaks out, what will happen to Coach Red Pill and his homosexual Tyler Durden LARP commune?

White slavs (...)

Don't be equating us to them honkeys and their dogfuckin' cracka hoes!

 

[SmugAutist]

Surprising how little this is being talked about, and even more, how little is being done. It seems Ukraine is just going to stand down unless Russia decides to push forward for more territory than the Donbas. I knew the US was not going to get involved but I would've guessed that Poland would've started to mobilize towards their borders.

It seems that there's no troop movements in Belarus, which makes me think that Russia is not going to start an invasion just yet. As of now, it's probably just Crimea all over again. pretty much just moving into territory that was already de facto controlled by Russia and making it official. Ukraine has no other choice than to lie down and take it since nobody wants to go to war with Russia.

 

[Male Idiot]

That's bullshit, before USSR those nations were deeply distinct. There are memoirs of bolshevick comrades coming from Petrograd to ... Donetsk region and lamenting that no one spoke Russian and basically going back. When you are going to non-slav regions like 'stans, it's even worse, language barrier was greater, as was national identity. There is a reason why you need to break down a big country into regions.

The second part for federating into republics is that at least officially, bolshevicks prided themselves as the ideology of multiculturalism and inclusion, equality of all workers. Division was only between classes, not races or ethnicities or sexes. This is why a lot of people from nations under colonial rule would buy into this shit, being an individual country but withing the larger alliance under commie rule. Globohomo was never popular, especially in the past.

While the official line was multiculturalism, Russian language and everything Russian was promoted the fuck out as superior, state language and mass resettlement of Russian speakers. To this day, most Warsaw pact faggots can speak a few words in Russian.

Got to agree there. But imperialist leaders usually preferred one universal language all the time.

It cut down administration. I remember when Joseph the Second tried to make the whole Austria-Hungary speak only german, just because it would cut down paperwork and make things easier.

This is also why Pajeets ask for bobs and bitch lasagne in bad English.

 

[Getting tard comed]

I read that Russia is sending in Peace Keepers into the newly minted Republics. So that's gonna turn out interestingly.


Honestly this is a really good move on Russias part. If the West does anything they look like hypocrites for attacking freedom, self determination, and democracy. Ukraine gets to join NATO now maybe since there will be two buffer states between Ukraine and Russia now. And if war breaks out, Russia has the moral high ground. Good play on his part.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Ukrainians continue to Shell Donetsk and Luhansk!!!!!!!!!

 

[Richardface]

I read that Russia is sending in Peace Keepers into the newly minted Republics. So that's gonna turn out interestingly.


Honestly this is a really good move on Russias part. If the West does anything they look like hypocrites for attacking freedom, self determination, and democracy. Ukraine gets to join NATO now maybe since there will be two buffer states between Ukraine and Russia now. And if war breaks out, Russia has the moral high ground. Good play on his part.

The russian strategy is screeching "how is this different to kosovo? Eh? Eh?" Which is simplistic and retarded but not entirely without merit

 

[Getting tard comed]

The russian strategy is screeching "how is this different to kosovo? Eh? Eh?" Which is simplistic and retarded but not entirely without merit

All you need is a little bit of merit.