Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Bro you have no idea. Ive seen hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of ammo blindly shot at a hill...followed up by jdams and mortars.

All because some Iraqi guy had exhaust problems

Its not a stretch to say we scorth the earth when attacked. The situation often devolves into high school hearsay and talk about "i saw a guy doing such and such" when no guy ever existed. Its just stress and emotions

Yeah, it's not great. Pair that with the average Army unit's tendency to get on line and trade ineffective SAF with a far ambush element for 45 minutes or more while talking fires or CAS/CCA on station and... it's just a boondoggle for ammo and ordnance manufacturers.

One of the good things about the Marines is they will generally attempt to get up and maneuver on the enemy if they are just taking ineffective fire. Not to take away from the good Army units but I just got sick of having to yell "fucking start flanking" on every contact.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I was worried that when the invasion began, Biden could've responded right away with military action (instead of just sanctions), igniting an immediate WW3.

Also 2020 should teach me to be skeptical of media fearmongering.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

These "2 new countries" used to be Ukrainian Oblasts.

And now they are not, by popular demand.

 

[Puff]

You know what? I went from not giving a shit to supporting russia. We need some more good old fashioned conquering.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Patton was a lolcow who thought he was the reincarnation of on of Napolepn's marshals

Still he won wars, our modern ones don't

 

[Richardface]

Still he won wars, our modern ones don't

He won battles, Eisenhower, Nimitz and Bradley won the war

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Maybe they should have called it Mycraine

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

Still he won wars, our modern ones don't

IDK, stormin norman did pretty well.

 

[Anne I. O'Nick]

Lot of people here saying "why should we care about Ukraine?"
Well:

• Crimea now Russian
• Hong Kong now Chinese
• Afghanistan now RU/CN aligned taleban
• LNR
• DNR
• Africa now supported by B&R Initiative and CN development spending

At what point do we say that the west has broadly given up on being a major international player? America and its allies will soon find themselves dangerously irrelevant and cut off from setting the rules. In 50 years, your children will install WeChat and be surveilled by TenCent, the same way that America currently has with Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. When Taiwan's current population grows old and dies they will end up voluntarily joining China, the dominant economic and political force rather than sit as a peer to a west that's a shadow of it's former self.

Pics of "I hope Russians kill you *wave flag*" is degenerate "surrender to communism to own the libs" posting. America get your house in order rather than cutting off your nose to spite your face.

- I'm sad to say this does mean the release of Stalker 2 is likely delayed

blyad

 

[Puff]

Lot of people here saying "why should we care about Ukraine?"
Well:

• Crimea now Russian
• Hong Kong now Chinese
• Afghanistan now RU/CN aligned taleban
• LNR
• DNR
• Africa now supported by B&R Initiative and CN development spending

At what point do we say that the west has broadly given up on being a major international player? America and its allies will soon find themselves dangerously irrelevant and cut off from setting the rules. In 50 years, your children will install WeChat and be surveilled by TenCent, the same way that America currently has with Google, Apple, Facebook, etc. When Taiwan's current population grows old and dies they will end up voluntarily joining China, the dominant economic and political force rather than sit as a peer to a west that's a shadow of it's former self.

Pics of "I hope Russians kill you *wave flag*" is degenerate "surrender to communism to own the libs" posting. America get your house in order rather than cutting off your nose to spite your face.


blyad

In what world is modern Russia communist? In WW3, China and Russia are NOT allies.

 

[Commodore 128]

• Hong Kong now Chinese
• Afghanistan now RU/CN aligned taleban
• Africa now supported by B&R Initiative and CN development spending

You forgot South America...

 

[Anne I. O'Nick]

In what world is modern Russia communist? In WW3, China and Russia are NOT allies.

I'm just appealing to AMERICANS but for real, Russia/China are the new Britain/USA.
Russia is the faded former empire having colonial episodes, China is the new economic and military upstart. They don't have to respect each other, but they will be aligned. China saying "respect borders" is rather like America refusing to publicly weigh in on the Falklands.

 

[DumbDude42]

At what point do we say that the west has broadly given up on being a major international player?

germany was forced to give up when the allies annihilated them in 45 and turned them into a toothless US vassal state
britain gave up shortly after WW2, when they lost india and got cucked by the suez crisis
france gave up after they lost both indochina and algeria
america hasn't fully given up yet, but it is increasingly paralyzed by the growing internal issues it is suffering from, brought about by many decades of unchecked leftist subversion

 

[Richardface]

I'm just appealing to AMERICANS but for real, Russia/China are the new Britain/USA.
Russia is the faded former empire having colonial episodes, China is the new economic and military upstart. They don't have to respect each other, but they will be aligned. China saying "respect borders" is rather like America refusing to publicly weigh in on the Falklands.

No, China is Wilhelmine Germany (a power looking to newly assert itself on the world stage after a long period of economic growth) and Russia is (and I hate to use this analogy) Nazi Germany, a former power looking to reassert itself following a great defeat followed by stagnation and renewal.

 

[Neil]

The only thing holding you back is your leadership. Your generals are too busy getting asspats for implementing standard issue high heels.

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Shit rolls down hill.

It's funny. Mark Milley says that he wants to "understand white fragility", and then all of a sudden, white right wingers shit their pants and cry every time they see him from there on out, making shoops like this because they're totally not mad at him calling white people fragile.

Really makes you think... maybe he had a point..?

 

[Anne I. O'Nick]

germany was forced to give up when the allies annihilated them in 45 and turned them into a toothless US vassal state
britain gave up shortly after WW2, when they lost india and got cucked by the suez crisis
france gave up after they lost both indochina and algeria
america hasn't fully given up yet, but it is increasingly paralyzed by the growing internal issues it is suffering from, brought about by many decades of unchecked leftist subversion

So what do we do about it? According to many in this thread "give up and support Russia" to spite modern America.
They'll still live in modern America though, and it'll be worse for it, but despite worse circumstances they'll be glad that despite the cost they got to shit on their rival politicians.

 

[Richardface]

So what do we do about it? According to many in this thread "give up and support Russia" to spite modern America.
They'll still live in modern America though, and it'll be worse for it, but despite worse circumstances they'll be glad that despite the cost they got to shit on their rival politicians.

"Nothing" seems like something i could really live with

 

[DumbDude42]

So what do we do about it? According to many in this thread "give up and support Russia" to spite modern America.
They'll still live in modern America though, and it'll be worse for it, but despite worse circumstances they'll be glad that despite the cost they got to shit on their rival politicians.

it's the same situation as that famous pic of some black anti war protestor holding up a "no vietnamese ever called me nigger" sign: no russian ever ruined my neighborhood with mass immigration, no russian ever pushed tranny shit on me and tried to get me fired for opposing it, etc. when our own governments are treating us like this, how can you seriously expect us to back them up?

 

[Jump]

IDK, stormin norman did pretty well.
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That dude is dead. All those 'Nam hardened guys are gone.
Norman knew you had to kill you enemy to win. Body count
Norman didn't have an army filled with troons and fat women.
And best of all Norman faced an actual retard army and knew he could steam roll it in days with shock and awe and did.
Russia is not Iraq

So what do we do about it?

We stay the fuck home. No one gives a shit about Ukraine except all the political class who have business deals in there.
Ukraine was part of Russia in my lifetime. It can go back to being part of it for all that matters to anyone in America.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

IDK, stormin norman did pretty well.
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That was 30 years ago, last century, last millenium