Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Kane Lives]

Kind of understandable that Russia is doing it though. Even if it loses them to propaganda war, it does prevent the Ukrainians from getting a good idea of Russian troop movements.

I mean. Winning the real war >>>>>>>>>>>>>> winning a propaganda war most of the time.

 

[Breadbassket]

Once the capital is fully taken cease fire negotiations should come shortly after, people will starve in the city if they lose control in Kyiv.

If Zelensky is caught I think cease fire negotiations are likely, as for the people in the city starving I am sure it has happened a thousand times throughout the history of warfare. While I don't think a government in the modern day would be wiling to let a entire city starve it is an option that is on the table if the rest of Ukraine is still willing to fight. Such is the brutality of war if this is to occur.

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

Watching countrymen get slaughtered defending your country so you take time to make a TikTok for internet points. Really finding it harder and harder to empathize with the Ukranian plight

I, for one, am very appreciative that terminally online zoomers are posting war correspondence TikToks for my entertainment.

 

[Stationary Tevin]

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Man this whole thing doesn't make sense to me, of course to be fair I'm a retarded zoomer in most peoples eyes here but if someone could explain one key thing I'd be real appreciative. Why the hell are the troops spread out so much? To minimize damage from an aerial bombardment and perform a pincer attack on the capital? That would make sense to me if Ukraine were an actual threat compared to Russia but they're not, if they just blitzed the hell out of them this would all be over already and they would have had the capital forever ago.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

yeah and russia shouldn’t be struggling as hard as they are. russia is top 3 most powerful militaries in the world lmfao.

They are trying not to destroy Kiev and kill a bunch of civilians. They could rolled right through Kiev and razed it last night. You should be happy they're trying to limit casualties and damage to infrastructure.

 

[Herty]

Its day 2 nigger and Russia has only committed a third of its available resources. Desert storm took 3 weeks and Iraq was smaller and the capability gap even bigger

Indeed

 

[mr.moon1488]

I mean. Winning the real war >>>>>>>>>>>>>> winning a propaganda war most of the time.

Sometimes that can go the other way though. Vietnam for instance was certainly an example of one side winning the real war because they won the propaganda war.

 

[naffatune]

"step sis being extra nice" LMAO

dr cum control tho. i swear to god, if Zelensky releases him...

 

[Strix454]

I know Kiev is the primary target for the Russians right now but after they take it, what then? I know the idea is that countries generally surrender once their capital is lost but who is to say the Ukrainian government won't fight on?

If the government remains in Kiev and they capture the government itself, they can negotiate something. If the government flees and tries to set itself up somewhere else, they would probably make that their next target. If they capture Kiev, they could also form their own new government for Ukraine. They have multiple options.

But we still don't quite know what the Russian plan is. They seem to have something in mind, but its not clear specifically what.

 

[No. 7 cat]

I just find it funny the UN security counsel expected to actually get anything done except for a stern finger waggling.

I will have you know the Secretary General could write a very stern letter to Pres Putin, who fears that would happen.

 

[Aidan]

yeah and russia shouldn’t be struggling as hard as they are. russia is top 3 most powerful militaries in the world lmfao.

A surprising truth is most militaries are just really, really bad.

 

[Yaks]

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I feel bad for the zoo animals. They're gonna be stuck there for the entire thing. i wonder if they're being fed by some brave zookeepers staying behind or if they're being left to starve.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

>Comparing America's no-fucks-given policy of forgiven warcrimes to Russia's careful attitude.

Dude, Russia literally invited a fucking Chechen death-squad to fight alongside them. How far down the rabbit hole are you?

 

[xXx: State of the Union]

Ye. Even Poland didn't fall in 48 hours. I know there's new technology and shit, but so does Ukraine. Anti-air, automatic weapons and overall better training makes steamrolling a whole country harder, especially if Putin is on purpose leaving troops behind.

The thing that gets me is the whole narrative is retarded. My family is cheering that Ukraine is curb stomping Russia one minute, the next they are in tears because all of the orphanages have been bombed, every woman in sight is being gang raped and they're beheading the families of all Ukrainian soldiers.

If you're going to believe propaganda at least pick one narrative ffs

 

[Breadbassket]

Sometimes that can go the other way though. Vietnam for instance was certainly an example of one side winning the real war because they won the propaganda war.

Controlling the narrative of war through propaganda has its benefits but ultimately winning the fight on the ground is what matters.

 

[BeautifulCancer]

sorry just seems like a cope to me. from what i’m seeing and reading all the downed planes, casualty reports, looks pretty grim for the russians considering their standing before they started the invasion.

If you're stuck to fucking twitter you might think that Russia was holding out in the fucking Caucasus against the gigachad Ukrainian heroes, but in reality they're making gains nonetheless of all the videos Twitter and reddit is feeding to their audience.

 

[BradCarter]

I, for one, am very appreciative that terminally online zoomers are posting war correspondence TikToks for my entertainment.

That's a fair point, but I can be grateful for Nazi medical advancements and still fucking despise the scientists at the same time

 

[BlackDragoons]

Execute the Ukranian president seems to be pretty high on the priority list. You just install your own guy, then use your military to crush any opposition to his rule

Ehh, local resistance is always going to be a thing.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Ukraine’s Gay Combat Volunteers Are Ready to Fight for Their Lives Against Anti-LGBTQ Putin

The LGBTQ community in Ukraine believes it has even more reason than most to resist a Russian occupation after Putin’s troops poured into the country.

www.thedailybeast.com

watch out PUTIN

in all seriousness i find it fucking hilarious how Putin is just like the ultimate bad guy for american liberals. and the cringeworthy takes the media and the liberals themselves have about him is so funny.

Oh yeah, Ukraine is like, totally tolerant and understanding of homosexuality.

Well there are worse places to be gay, but social acceptance in eastern Europe isn't the greatest.

Doesn't matter, there are spare Putins standing by.

Whack a bin Laden, an ISIS will rise in it's place.

Whoever loses, the oligarchs win.

 

[Kane Lives]

Sometimes that can go the other way though. Vietnam for instance was certainly an example of one side winning the real war because they won the propaganda war.

Naturally.

Unfortunately for Ukraine, Russia is not the US, and they're more or less immune to public opinion swings for the foreseeable future. It's not like Putin cares about what the average gopnik thinks of the war, so long he doesn't steer them directly into a disaster.