Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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It is an oversimplification, if not outright wrong, to assume that Hitler wanted to exterminate the Slavs. You're basically parroting wartime propaganda. Hitler abhorred what he often called the 'Judeo-Bolshevik Menace,' but his criticism of the Slavs tended to be fairly limited. He may have had a certain level of disdain for them as foreigners, and especially getting mad about Slavic encroachment on Germans, for example abhorring what he termed the Czechification of the Austrian Empire, but I do not think the level you are talking about is accurate. There is plenty of stuff floating around online to corroborate what you say, but I think it is mostly either wartime or post-war disinfo.

Much of Eastern Europe was proverbially stuck between a rock and a hard place, ie between the German Reich and the Soviet Union. For many in Eastern Europe, Hitler was the lesser of two evils. There were TONS of Eastern Europeans who volunteered to fight alongside the Germans. Many joined volunteer units of the SS, for example the Latvian Legion, or the 1st Galician from Ukraine. Indeed, even a lot of Russians joined the Germans, not seeing the Judeo-Bolshevists in charge of the USSR as representative of Russia, in a ~125,000-strong unit called the Russian Liberation Army, or the Vlasov Army. There was even an entity called the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside the Germans, and then carried on fighting the Soviets until 1956; the modern Ukrainian Right Sector flag is based on the UIA flag. There was a similar guerrilla war in the Baltic states that also lasted until 1956; they are known as the Forest Brothers, for their forest-based insurgency.

It is not a part of my family, but I happen to know like five different people who have at least one Eastern Euro grandparent who fought for the SS, and then fled to the West to avoid Stalin's persecution after the war was lost.

I think it is most reasonable to look at Eastern Euro "Nazism" or "neo-Nazism" as an expression of anti-Soviet politics/values, and a desire from nationalists for national autonomy/sovereignty, rather than being in favour of Soviet propaganda stating that Hitler wanted to exterminate all Soviet citizens. Stalin did a much better job exterminating Eastern Europeans than Hitler ever did.
That perspective makes sense but it is still fun to troll Slavic neo-Nazis by saying "Hitler would have gassed you along with the kikes"

I do know that some anti-communist Russians were recruited as auxiliaries like the "Russian Liberation Army" but I don't know how much use they were. Probably not much, because Germany lost the war.

But if Wernher von Braun is any indication though, many of them did win the peace.
 
The irony laced sarcastic mockery "humor" has always been a weird subject considering that a majority of the times people mocking an example turn out to be mocking a mockery itself.
A matryoshka doll of irony with the last piece missing.
I just do it because it passes time and not many things are actually happening right now
 
These aren't Sandnigger militia uploading their sick kill compilation to World Star, these are conventional armies with strict op-sec and command and control. Any Vatnik or Hohol gopnik trying to film his epic campaign montage that's going to look like COD after some editing is liable to get his ass handed to him by Sergeant Pavel.
i wish cctv caught putin spitting in my bigmac
 
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Hello person who either doesn't know what Generplan Ost was, or outright denies it. Unless you think mass deportation to Siberia"isn't as bad".
Retard Serbians and Croats constantly argue over which the Nazis liked more as a "servant race" and who had more Shabbos Goy privileges in their respective conquered entities. The Slavimutt meme is real.
 
The irony laced sarcastic mockery "humor" has always been a weird subject considering that a majority of the times people mocking an example turn out to be mocking a mockery itself.
A matryoshka doll of irony with the last piece missing.
So it's almost like we're that autistic kid from The Babadook and humor is his mom that he won't even let masturbate?
 
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I dunno guys I'd say Russia is Asuka and Ukraine is Rei.
No I will not elaborate.
Can't spell Asuka without cyka, as they say.nobody says this


Real talk though, why is all the footage of things after they go boom and not before? There was some militia shooting RPGs off camera, but otherwise all the shooting at ground targets seems to be 90%+ blue(and yellow) on blue(and yellow).
 
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While there's a lull in the fighting, congratulations to everyone who correctly predicted a Russian Invasion before this thread came to the fore: gold stars for everyone. Please badger anyone who made an incorrect guess. As we all know, if one be wrong about geopolitics in Eastern Europe, one is wrong about everything else.

What is the goal of the West, now that the Russia has launched an invasion?

First, nobody in the Western governments cared about Ukraine yesterday. Nobody cares today. The Western powers want Russia to become bogged down in a long war of attrition a la Afghanistan. Russia's demographics are in decline; she cannot replace her losses. Should enough gopniks be gutted by old Ukrainian fishwives, Poland, Finland and the Baltic States will have a fighting chance in the next Northern war, which (take out your betting slips) is coming.

Ukraine will lose this war decisively despite the frothing media coverage. That's the point - the weapons being sent now by the West are intended to be used during a guerrilla campaign.

Because the Americans have decided they do not want to be world police, there is now a geopolitical vacuum. Countries such as Russia are waking up and acting like real countries again. Hence, the most consequential thing to come out of this war will not be anything related to Ukraine itself, but rather German rearmament. Soon, Germany will act like Germany. France is already acting like France, etc. The Franco-Germany alliance will break because they have very different interests in very different spheres. In the long term, Germany and Russia will reorder Eastern Europe according to their own interests, as they have done every other time. This war, I suspect, is a last hurrah for a united NATO.

Some final rambling points: the people who hated you yesterday, hate you today. Remember Media companies have been struggling because their output of Soviet-style black propaganda and distilled fatuity is no longer a money maker. Yet, wars are popular and real STALKER is going to sell as much as video game STALKER. The oversell is desperation.

That the cathedral have been wrong about everything and are infected by semi-calvinist cultistishness does not change how evil this invasion is. Ukrainian nationhood, for better or worse, is being birthed from this war. I do not like digging holes and I am not willing to die in a Ruthenian ditch. The appropriate response, I think, to the decision of choosing between the evil of Tsarist revanchanism, on the one hand, and the evil of woke gnosticism, on the other, is to feed one's chickens or raise fish in your bathtub - I don't know, I am retarded.

I think they feel that if they put enough pressure on they can cause Putin to be overthrown quickly and not suffer the blowback sanctions will cause in terms of spiraling inflation and wrecking financial markets. Hence why sanctions are a lot stronger than predicted and the SWIFT weapon has been deployed. Russia's army has also underperformed so they are pumping in weapons in the hope the Ukies can hold out longer and ratchet up the pressure on Putin.
 
An intresting ARTICLE that was posted on RIA (Rus state-owned media) and some Sputnik sites but deleted soon after either because if was too much even by current Russian standarts or because it was too early. The author directly calls the war "the final solution of Ukrainian question", does it ring any bells for you? Endlosung der Jugendfrage zum beispiel?

A couple of days ago I returned from Siberia, like this super far away and super cold region hell knows where. It was kinda surrealistic, we rode in a small UAZ and when our cell phones caught the network (because most of those territories are not covered by IPs) someone said "you know the war has started". I spoke to some ppl livingf there, adults and old ones, usually they are fishermen, drivers or retirees and bacially no one supported that shit, everyone was like it was shitty before and now it's gonna be even shittier.
 
OK, what the hell happened? I slept and I'm 74 pages behind.
Thread turned into reddit level cancer, pretty much fuck all, meanwhile Russia is pussying out opening their stock market today until 3PM Moscow time meaning only 3 and a half hours of normal trading will be allowed today. Also they banned all non-Russians from selling their stocks.
 
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