Prison Letters Chris and Kengle Prison Letter Megathread

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As we speak Chris may be receiving his first real psychological treatment that he can't ignore.
The only treatment Chris can't ignore is electroshock therapy. He's just cunning enough to tell the therapeutic docket shrinks what they want to hear.

Zap him to the extreme like Ellen Burstyn at the end of Requiem for a Dream or don't bother.
 
He's just cunning enough to tell the therapeutic docket shrinks what they want to hear.
Until his mask slips in the next appointment and he won't shut up about 'healing' barb. He's been in therapy before and acted like a total loon there. I don't see him suddenly acting normal for the shrink this time. If they give him toys to play with during, it's all over for him.
 
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Another Kengle letter…

I called this the other day -

5) Prolonged stay - This is where we are now and more importantly where the cracks have been showing in his calm - he's now not getting as much as he was at first in donations to the jail commissary, so he's now having to budget what he has and less people are sending him letters and from the sound of it Kengles pissed off with him or Chris is pissed of with Ken so the letters have dried up from there. Now that happened He's starting to miss all the little creature comforts of home and it's slowly but surely sinking in he's now in deep shit, barbs not well, there is no car, she's not gotten the money for the temple as he demanded and he's likely been told he wont be allowed to go near her or the house ever again by some form of official source.

He's getting desperate for his creature comforts, and he's lost the attention of the internet for the most part so Weens are no longer tossing money at his commissary account and he's getting less letters, etc.

It's starting to dawn on he that things just might have gone past the point he might be able to wriggle out of it and that the world has other plans for him,
 
He's been in therapy before and acted like a total loon there.
Is there a source for this? I know he went to therapy and prattled about his imaginary friends etc, but that’s nothing special to a professional. “Acting like a loon” would be repeating whatever he did in the meeting with Mary Lee Walsh.

He doesn’t act “normal,” but he knows when to act more or less like an average special needs person. He knows that whatever he calls it, what he did to Barb is illegal and severely frowned upon. He wouldn’t sperg about it to a shrink unless he really trusted her (it would have to be a woman).
 
Is there a source for this? I know he went to therapy and prattled about his imaginary friends etc, but that’s nothing special to a professional. “Acting like a loon” would be repeating whatever he did in the meeting with Mary Lee Walsh.

He doesn’t act “normal,” but he knows when to act more or less like an average special needs person. He knows that whatever he calls it, what he did to Barb is illegal and severely frowned upon. He wouldn’t sperg about it to a shrink unless he really trusted her (it would have to be a woman).
He was tarding out during the docket saga.
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And more lately, my psychic links to not only the Earth, with Cwcville and Comma, in C-197, but This 1218’s Earth Too! I even had Two-plus Moments of that while I was talking with my appointed psychiatrist at Region 10, during The Hour. Even she was flabbergasted, and she Has her Degree in Psychiatry from a Good School.
I am only going to say this Once for those who may think me as delusional, crazy or shit like that. I am Not delusional, crazy, or anything of the sort.
I have my own magic powers that I am still learning about for myself from my family and allies.

I’ve already talked with psychiatrists and therapists years ago, so any new such meetings would be a very moot point.[6]
From Marvin:
Chris has been telling his therapists in great detail about his insane shit for a long time. Like in detail and he gets cranky if they don't let him tell everything the way he wants.
 
Every time he's been to see a therapist so far it's been little more than a basic rubber stamp job this time around they will want to know more.
Hopefully it's enough for them to either put restrictions on Chris (internet usage) or put him in a group home for his safety and the safety of others. I'm pretty sure any mental health professional who interviews Chris first reads the CWCki; even Chris himself would boast: "I'm famous on the internet - there's even an entire Wikipedia site based on me!"
 
Hopefully it's enough for them to either put restrictions on Chris (internet usage) or put him in a group home for his safety and the safety of others. I'm pretty sure any mental health professional who interviews Chris first reads the CWCki; even Chris himself would boast: "I'm famous on the internet - there's even an entire Wikipedia site based on me!"
Mental health specialists will only use third party information when necessary, and since Chris was more than willing to divulge information about his incontinence, personal information and crimes he committed against his own mother I highly doubt we'll see a court appointed therapist on the Farms anytime soon. Someone could keep an eye on local liquor stores though.
 
Civil commitment will be difficult. You have to be really far gone for that to happen.

That said, we may actually be in mental hospital arc right now and just not know it. The longer Chris stays silent the more I will be convinced that he's been moved for psychiatric treatment. People in custody are the one group that you can send to a state hospital relatively easily since they already have their freedom restricted.

The downside for Chris is that the purpose of this stay would be to make him competent to assist in his defense, not "fix" him (though that could be a happy byproduct).

As we speak Chris may be receiving his first real psychological treatment that he can't ignore.
I wondered when the happy pills would be administered.

There goes our God rants.
 
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Civil commitment will be difficult. You have to be really far gone for that to happen.

That said, we may actually be in mental hospital arc right now and just not know it. The longer Chris stays silent the more I will be convinced that he's been moved for psychiatric treatment. People in custody are the one group that you can send to a state hospital relatively easily since they already have their freedom restricted.

The downside for Chris is that the purpose of this stay would be to make him competent to assist in his defense, not "fix" him (though that could be a happy byproduct).

As we speak Chris may be receiving his first real psychological treatment that he can't ignore.
I have no legal experience or credential at all, so forgive if this is an absolute nonsense conjecture. If someone's deemed incompetent to stand trial, shouldn't there be a way to find this out for sure as a safeguard for the rights of the accused? There's conflict with issues of medical privacy, but it seems like an obvious loophole where rights to a trial could be violated if the powers-that-be wanted to. Obviously, I don't believe in some 'Free-Christine' level wild conspiracy where that's the case but it seems like an obvious way rights could be violated in a different scenario. It just generally seems like very difficult legal waters to tread.

So generally, when someone is deemed unfit to stand trial, who decides that? who decides that they're ready? Who knows where the defendant is and what treatment they receive? How 'unfit' must the person be?
 
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The way electroshock is used clinically now most likely wouldn't help Chris. It's mainly used for depression. Which might help, but wouldn't begin to cover the range of his neuroses.
It isn't to help Chris, though, it's just to zap him and record his screams. For fun.
 
I have no legal experience or credential at all, so forgive if this is an absolute nonsense conjecture. If someone's deemed incompetent to stand trial, shouldn't there be a way to find this out for sure as a safeguard for the rights of the accused? There's conflict with issues of medical privacy, but it seems like an obvious loophole where rights to a trial could be violated if the powers-that-be wanted to. Obviously, I don't believe in some 'Free-Christine' level wild conspiracy where that's the case but it seems like an obvious way rights could be violated in a different scenario. It just generally seems like very difficult legal waters to tread.

So generally, when someone is deemed unfit to stand trial, who decides that? who decides that they're ready? Who knows where the defendant is and what treatment they receive? How 'unfit' must the person be?

Generally the person must be so mentally ill that they are unable to assist in their own defense. This ruling is requested by the defense attorney, who ostensibly represents Chris' interests. The defense attorney is supposed to do this to make sure that their client is in the best possible state to participate in proceedings and assist in their own defense.

Generally a defense attorney does not do this unless the client is actually behaving in a way that keeps them from getting the best possible outcome. Note that the attorney can't just declare his client incompetent, a judge has to agree and it has to be supported by psychiatric professionals.

If the prosecution tried to declare the defendant incompetent against the defense's wishes, it would most likely be denied unless they had some very, very compelling evidence, in which case any decent defense attorney would not be objecting.

The only issue is that in some places, historically, time spent in treatment did not count as time served. This is not the case in Virginia today -- any time Chris spends in a state hospital still counts as time served. This was also a way for the state to keep people locked up for longer than the sentence they could have received (either in terms of what was likely, or what the maximum was). The defense is also more empowered to fight against this nowadays.

Some states like Mississippi still abuse incompetence to keep people jailed for long periods of time without trial.
 
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