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[Vyse Inglebard]

If people are reminded of COVID vaccines by their jobs/government/etc., COVID is not over. If your job is continuing pandemic-related worksite changes, COVID is not over.

Mom would agree with you on that: last time we got together and talked, she told me she got written up again because she missed another COVID test. A test that she has to take due to the fact that she's not vaxxed (vaxxed people don't have to take it, BTW, despite the fact that they got infected with Omicron over the holidays). She's fighting it this time, rightfully so. Hopefully she'll convince them to back down, but I'm keeping my expectations low.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

There's also Kamala. But at the same time, why are we even talking people? Given the 2020 rules, HR1, and true believers, and the Democrat Party's willingness to use all of those to their advantage, it doesn't matter who runs or who they're up against: the Democrats will find a way to win just to keep whatever GOP candidate out.

As much as I loathe to sound like my avatar, that might actually cause Civil War 2. If Red states sincerely believe the game is rigged, they could:

1) Rig their own elections.
2) Refuse to deliver their Fed taxes.
3) Pressure state PD into militia service.
4) Honkening their Dem cities.

Instead of trying to emulate MLK which is what Jan 6. really was, they'll just go full Years of Lead.

 

[Pig Cups]

Uh-oh! Remember when it was said that the WH was fervently hoping that the sanctions and current peace talks would succeed so that Brandon could pretend that he ended the war, garnering a win that could be used to project strength at the SOTU? Well, that ain’t happening…

There's also Kamala. But at the same time, why are we even talking people? Given the 2020 rules, HR1, and true believers, and the Democrat Party's willingness to use all of those to their advantage, it doesn't matter who runs or who they're up against: the Democrats will find a way to win just to keep whatever GOP candidate out.

“2020 rules”
>Largely rescinded and getting better, as election laws are being tightened at the state level. COVID’s current trajectory makes it highly unlikely that they’ll have that metaphorical 5-alarm fire by which said measures can be hastily justified. No swing/purple state, let alone red, is going down that path.

“HR1”
>Dead, dead, dead.

“True believers”
>Your most potent argument thus far, though it still falls short. Unfortunately for the democrats, the power of that voting bloc is being overwhelmed by the independent bloc, who fucking HATE Brandon and the democrats.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Uh-oh! Remember when it was said that the WH was fervently hoping that the sanctions and current peace talks would succeed so that Brandon could pretend that he ended the war, garnering a win that could be used to project strength at the SOTU? Well, that ain’t happening…
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“2020 rules”
>Largely rescinded and getting better, as election laws are being tightened at the state level. COVID’s current trajectory makes it highly unlikely that they’ll have that metaphorical 5-alarm fire by which said measures can be hastily justified. No swing/purple state, let alone red, is going down that path.

“HR1”
>Dead, dead, dead.

“True believers”
>Your most potent argument thus far, though it still falls short. Unfortunately for the democrats, the power of that voting bloc is being overwhelmed by the independent bloc, who fucking HATE Brandon and the democrats.

Honest mediation might have worked yesterday, but now Russia is all in and can't fold now. The Russian people have been barred from international commerce and there's no guarantee that deposing Putin would relieve these sanctions. If Ukraine wins the war like how the Neo-con/Neo-libs want, Russia gets turned into Slav Libya.

 

[HandsomeDan]

The democrats may be working to scuttle COVID restrictions for political expediency and to memoryhole the past two years (dropping the mask mandate for congress just prior to the SOTU is a stark example- I still have doubts that every dem will be unmasked for that), while gaslighting that they ended COVID by fOlLoWiNG tHe sCiENcE, and that everything bad that occurred was the Republicans’ fault. I’ve seen a number of comments here bemoaning that such efforts will be successful.

I don’t think these efforts will work. In order for that tactic to see even moderate success, (1) COVID has to disappear completely, which is unlikely to happen (at least in their preferred timeframe). As has been said, they’ve bred too many Branch Covidians via fear-induced brain breaking who insist on continuing COVID restrictions against all reality. As much as they want to throttle such people and tell them to stop because they’re making the party look bad, they can’t and it’s a self-inflicted problem that the party itself created. As long as people see ANY masking, from schools to airplanes (place your bets for the CDC to lift school masking before SOTU…), to outdoors and alone in cars (plenty of that where I live), COVID is not over. If people are reminded of COVID vaccines by their jobs/government/etc., COVID is not over. If your job is continuing pandemic-related worksite changes, COVID is not over.

And (2) there are far too many people who understand that it was the mandate-happy democrats who stunted their childrens’ development, prevented people from experiencing major life milestones, and attempted to create a nefarious social credit system where ability to participate in the economy/society was dependent on taking an experimental, hastily-developed medication on which there is still much opacity re: testing/effectiveness/safety. And if you didn’t want to take it? You were left in the cold and told that you were the cause of society’s ills. No amount of gaslighting is going to lead people with IQs above 60 to think that all that was the fault of the republicans, especially when they were near-united in opposition. At this point, everyone knows that red states were able to grow their economies, keep schools open, and leave people alone, while blue states suffered in comparison. Red state COVID metrics weren’t the apocalyptic hell that blue states/media/pols portrayed them as. Even Branch Covidians know this, thanks to the double-edged sword that is breathless media attention.

Plus, it’s almost a reflex at this point that these tards need to un-learn.
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Agreed, they won't be able to just back away from all of this... when will they end the mask requirements on the airlines?

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Agreed, they won't be able to just back away from all of this... when will they end the mask requirements on the airlines?

Probably never.

 

[derpherp2]

Probably never.

By the way the trick still is to pretend the mandates are over, but masking is still required.
Also take the vaccines for any government-based services.

Stil lthe mandates are over tho guiiiiiiseeeeee.

 

[Standardized Profile]

Probably never.

It gives airlines another tool to fire passengers, possibly deny them all air travel through a no fly list. At least some of them are salivating at the thought of having that enforcement mechanism forever. They also benefit from the reduced services they've been providing under the dubious rationale of reducing COVID.

OTOH, at lease one exec--it might've been Bastian or Southwest, I don't remember--went public and said plane cabins are inherently lower risk because of the rapid air exchange and HEPA filters. At least some of them want to return to a semblance of normality.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It gives airlines another tool to fire passengers, possibly deny them all air travel through a no fly list. At least some of them are salivating at the thought of having that enforcement mechanism forever. They also benefit from the reduced services they've been providing under the dubious rationale of reducing COVID.

OTOH, at lease one exec--it might've been Bastian or Southwest, I don't remember--went public and said plane cabins are inherently lower risk because of the rapid air exchange and HEPA filters. At least some of them want to return to a semblance of normality.

Well, local flights like Southwest have alternatives like driving or even the train that Biden loves so much. Int'l flights get to be picky with no real options.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

Uh-oh! Remember when it was said that the WH was fervently hoping that the sanctions and current peace talks would succeed so that Brandon could pretend that he ended the war, garnering a win that could be used to project strength at the SOTU? Well, that ain’t happening…

On the one hand, we inch ever closer to Cold War 2.0. (Actually, question. Do any Kiwis knowledgeable about international relations really think that this could potentially lead to Cold War 2.0., or am I just sperging out over nothing?)

On the other, LOL, get fucked, Brandon. No victory for you!

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

On the one hand, we inch ever closer to Cold War 2.0. (Actually, question. Do any Kiwis knowledgeable about international relations really think that this could potentially lead to Cold War 2.0., or am I just sperging out over nothing?)

On the other, LOL, get fucked, Brandon. No victory for you!

Over in the Ukraine megathread, the consensus is Putin is panicking and escalating the conflict. Since Russia doesn't have the resources to sustain a long campaign or even have the logistics to function right, maintaining arms will actually cost them more in the long run, which results in a use it or lose it attitude. It's hard to tell if that reasoning also applies to nukes, but IMO, mounting more pressure on Putin is going to make him more erratic, not less. Are the oligarchs considering assassination? That depends on whether they'll be able to lift sanctions off their bank accounts if they do so. I've heard no guarantees of that, so they have to weigh whether supporting Putin is what will keep the country from turning into Slav Iraq or Libya or bring Putin's head for the West's grace. I'm leaning toward collapse of the Russian government and destabilizing the region based on how the US has run its foreign policy for the last 20 years; virtue signal that we got rid of some dictator, occupy or let allies occupy the area, and then it falls into mismanagement until we impose a government in our favor (see Arab Spring).

Liberal Democracy for everyone, but only if you vote correctly!

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

Have we ever figured out why everyone started saying Kyiv instead of Kiev?

 

[Oxous]

Have we ever figured out why everyone started saying Kyiv instead of Kiev?

It's just the official romanization of the city's name that the Ukrainian government uses. People in the Happenings thread for Ukraine have spent much time bitching about this but it doesn't really matter how you spell it. Alternate spellings include Kyïv, Kyjiv and Kyyiv.

 

[The Big O]

Have we ever figured out why everyone started saying Kyiv instead of Kiev?

Ukranian/Russian semantics, mainly. Kyiv is how the Ukranians refer to it; Kiev by Russians going back to the Soviet days.

 

[deeplyhigh]

No shit is that bias. I mean shit are they legit saying Trump was worse than fucking Johnson the 17th president.

Seriously how did conservatives lose this much ground like the academic field. I feel bad too since Trump had a good encomy.

IMO it is something simple that has not been mentioned yet: being an academic pays a pittance, even for most tenured positions. People who are conservative tend to want things like being able to afford homes and families and stability.

See also: public sector jobs.

Also, are retail employees masked? Because they do it due to the threat of health inspection. It also has the side effect of communicating that COVID is not over.

In my area, the employees at Walmart unmasked recently.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

IMO it is something simple that has not been mentioned yet: being an academic pays a pittance, even for most tenured positions. People who are conservative tend to want things like being able to afford homes and families and stability.

See also: public sector jobs.

In my area, the employees at Walmart unmasked recently.

Then they might be able to gaslight. It'll be slow going, especially if customers still wear them. LA County, just about everyone wears one.

 

[northstar747]

Why is a pedo posting in the biden thread?

 

[Ruin]

Well that's a lot of CP.

 

[Eekum Bokum]

That was not something i needed to see today or ever in fact.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

How odd. An account from 2019 reactivates only to dump loli in random threads.

Why is a pedo posting in the biden thread?

Because Joe Biden is a pedo?