Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Mr Bunny]

Just report that shit and move on.

 

[Keystone]

In my circles, a lot of people are advocating for donations towards charities that claim to be buying military equipment for the Ukrainians. I think this, more than any of the Marvel posting, epitomizes how the urban bugman thinks. They have zero clue how goods are produced and transported. From talking to them, it sounds like they think the Ukraine military can just go to the store in “Kyiv” and buy thermal sights, body armor, guns, etc. It never occurs to these virtue signalers that goods don’t just appear in a country, they have to be brought in. If these charities are legit, which I strongly suspect they aren’t, all they can do is try to straw purchase small quantities of export controlled items in another EU country and smuggle them in. Why go through all that effort though when every Western government is giving stuff away for free? It seems like a waste of money to donate to these groups.

I'm sure we'll find out many years from now that all these donations are just going straight into the pockets of politicians all over the West.

 

[Jarolleon]

What if the real scheme wasn't to start WW3, but to drive up oil prices so that the Energy Transition could be done ahead of schedule, and climate doomsday averted?

 

[OG Swolemaster]

Counter question, who gives a fuck? Just click ignore and stop giving them any consideration.

They probably have a thread and this chimpout should be recorded in it.

 

[Meat Target]

Why do people post loli shit like it's some major slam dunk?

You're the coomer who has that shit saved on your device(s).

Anyway, if this turns out to be the Hunger Games by redditors looking for clout I'd enjoy that a lot. Watching a bunch of gross ass people waddle through a war zone cracks me up.

They like negative attention and getting a rise out of people.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

The US could already put nukes in the already NATO members Baltic states if it wanted to, also a 5 minute missile flight to St. Petersburg and Moscow

Yeah and the Russians would lose their shit. You're basically saying the Russians already have a bad situation in Baltic States so why do they care if they get another shitty situation in the Ukraine.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

As gay and gross as the loliposting is, I still can't quite figure out what the point is supposed to be.

This stuff isn't even illegal in most countries. Adding a non-sexual photo of a child in Hello Kitty underwear is the cherry on the failcake.

post it on a site you don't like, then cry to the FBI about it on a 'normal' alt account and accuse them of being a CP site, I guess. prolly more successful crying to discord or reddit jannies, since they have no lives and might actually nuke the whole place on autopilot.

 

[Ted_Logan]

Here is a update from your dude



This was actually posted an hour ago





Hd if anyone curious

 

[TheTractor]

Okay I red so much bullshit the last couple days, let me recap some facts.

- Ukraine is boned to fight Russia 1v1. Air supremacy rules everything and Ukraine's airfield have been shuted down.

- Distributing small arms to civillians in huge urban centers for a siege preparation is A FUCKING TERRIBLE idea. They make themselves a target, won't do shit vs artillery, tanks, air superiority and trained soldiers ( to a degree ). Also mighty tempting to go on a robbing spree if things get bleak. That's a desesperate Volksturm move and we are not in 1945.

- Russia is acting out of national security interest while violating a nation's right to govern itself; This is a very complicated moral issues and people painting it pure black or white are absolute fucking monkeys.

I'm torn as to which side is morally less worse: Volodymyr Zelensky strikes me more of the type that prefers his people going down and keep a good self image, rather than take the fall and make the conflict end, saving a lot of lives. I feel for the population not wanting to get annexed by their neighboor, but is it really worth dying for?

If I was him, I would offer terms and abdicate to save ukrainian lives; people right now are fighting and dying for absolutly nothing as the outcome is already decided. That would be blood on my hands instead of just Putin's.

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

God Amerimutts are the fucking worst.

Just provide arms/training like the rest of Europe and fuck off with your sperging

How is Europe going to help out anything when the United States stops giving them everything? You five eyes fucking boomer nigger.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

They like negative attention and getting a rise out of people.

Owning and distributing CP to own people. This is Kirtaner levels of intellect.

 

[draggs]

Yeah and the Russians would lose their shit. You're basically saying the Russians already have a bad situation in Baltic States so why do they care if they get another shitty situation in the Ukraine.

Yeah and Ukraine is gonna be turned into a launch pad invasion springboard to destroy holy mother Russia the second it joins NATO is a paranoid delusion of lolcow proportions

 

[Simpadoo]

"Unlike" The entire point of brinksmanship it to force a favorable situation at the negotiations table. Not war.

Shit, would Russia even fucking be in this position if they hadn't pissed on the INF treaty and the Budapest Memorandum? Russia is trying to re-roll their saving throws on the breakup of the USSR.

Yeah, the outcome was totally fucking different. The US didn't summarily fucking invade the minute they perceived a threat. It is a poor analogy.

It was a threat that’s been in the making since 2015. It wasn’t a summary invasion.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Belarus mk II. A nice pliant country they can park missiles and troops in. Control industry and resources. Trade networks.
Pretty much everything they are accusing NATO/EU of trying to do.

The west doesn't even have IRBMs that are supposed to be this uber threat of targeting Moscow. The Pershings and nuke-capable Tomahawks are all retired. But do you know who does have brand new IRBMs? Ones that could put every European capital in first-strike range if deployed to Ukraine? Guess.

The old "I'm rubber, you're glue" maneuver, huh?

Why would IRBM's need to be parked in Ukraine to hit European capitals? The distance from Moscow to Berlin is 1600 km, to London it's 2500 km.

That's well within IRBM range even without putting them in Belarus, which is, as you say, already a pliant country that can be a missile base for Russia to hit any country in Europe.

So what's the grand plan for Ukraine? Being able to hit parts of North Africa?

 

[JambledUpWords]

 

[Strix454]

If I was him, I would offer terms and abdicate to save ukrainian lives; people right now are fighting and dying for absolutly nothing as the outcome is already decided. That would be blood on my hands instead of just Putin's.

Zelensky isn't the one making the decisions. His creators and funders are. This is behind the scenes a chess game between monsters on both sides. Nearly everyone in Ukraine and Russia are pawns.

 

[Uncle Buck]

It was a threat that’s been in the making since 2015 2001. It wasn’t a summary invasion.

FIFY.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

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[draggs]

Okay I red so much bullshit the last couple days, let me recap some facts.

- Ukraine is boned to fight Russia 1v1. Air supremacy rules everything and Ukraine's airfield have been shuted down.

- Distributing small arms to civillians in huge urban centers for a siege preparation is A FUCKING TERRIBLE idea. They make themselves a target, won't do shit vs artillery, tanks, air superiority and trained soldiers ( to a degree ). Also mighty tempting to go on a robbing spree if things get bleak. That's a desesperate Volksturm move and we are not in 1945.

- Russia is acting out of national security interest while violating a nation's right to govern itself; This is a very complicated moral issues and people painting it pure black or white are absolute fucking monkeys.

I'm torn as to which side is morally less worse: Volodymyr Zelensky strikes me more of the type that prefers his people going down and keep a good self image, rather than take the fall and make the conflict end, saving a lot of lives. I feel for the population not wanting to get annexed by their neighboor, but is it really worth dying for?

If I was him, I would offer terms and abdicate to save ukrainian lives; people right now are fighting and dying for absolutly nothing as the outcome is already decided. That would be blood on my hands instead of just Putin's.

I have definitely not read this just give up it's pointless you're only getting more people killed propaganda before. It definitely has not been used in every war there ever was before. It's so basic bitch transparent it makes my brain hurt

 

[RedDelicious]

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Man, he looks like someone tried drawing Mitch McConnel from memory.