Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Local Fed]

I don't understand what message this one is trying to make.
To me this makes Putin out to be the better leader;
He focuses on matters related to the country instead of spending time with a family, he doesn't make friends unnecessarily with his military subordinates, and doesn't broadcast his location where any tom dick or harry can drone strike him.

There's no real message other than trying to make the viewer, typically a Redditor or Twitter moron feel warm and fuzzy. The same crowd of people who would support Trudeau because they think he's handsome and says the correct woke shit in front of a camera or would be #ridinwithbiden because his dog has an Instagram account. It's appealing to the same crowd who has to say that one guy is Voldemort and the other guy is Harry Potter.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

So I've seen 2 maps today. The one a few posts back, and the one from the A&N megathread where the attitude seems to be a lot more lopsided towards cope.


Ideas of the vast discrepancy? Bias? Time difference?

 

[apolloday]

Some Kharkiv fighting, poor lamppost...

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Police took my passport. Invited to go for processing tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Don't go, are you fucking retarded? They will use you as a prop meat and then cry about casualties.

 

[Narutard]

Not really, but the problem of ukrainian society is that it's very lazy and indifferent for the most part, while woke nationalists are like BLM in US - they have no problem gathering into bunches and starting shit, blocking places, etc. If you followed the coup of 2014, you would notice this, there were tons of people who were against this shit, yet they did nothing. However, they are very cowardly and run away the second they get any resistance. That's why they try all this shit against russian army, they know they have orders to not fight back, unless it's crucial. Otherwise they would sit at their homes and angrily tweet all day.

Slavs don’t want to get sent to the gulags for doing a wrongthink. The worst the west does is giving you a slap on the wrist for rioting.

 

[Gehenna]

So I've seen 2 maps today. The one a few posts back, and the one from the A&N megathread where the attitude seems to be a lot more lopsided towards cope.
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Ideas of the vast discrepancy? Bias? Time difference?

Neither, both are true. This is a map of the hardest fighting and where the Ukrainians are holding the line. The other map is where Russian forces are spreading out from without much fighting.

 

[Vindeo]

So I've seen 2 maps today. The one a few posts back, and the one from the A&N megathread where the attitude seems to be a lot more lopsided towards cope.
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Ideas of the vast discrepancy? Bias? Time difference?

the chinese one seems like cope tbh ngl.

 

[MG-34]

Some Kharkiv fighting, poor lamppost...
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The Irony on that one is apparently it was a Soviet Afghan war memorial.

 

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

Slavs don’t want to get sent to the gulags for doing a wrongthink.

This is how I know you are retarded. Google what Gulag is.

The worst the west does is giving you a slap on the wrist for rioting.

Yeah, I saw this on January 6th.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Up to now the Ukrainians had one hope, that Russia was going to do a war of attrition trying to actually take the cities. If so, the results would be more up in the air since Russia could not maintain its losses.

If the strategy actually is to let them starve, there is no hope for victory.

The Ukrainians in cities seem to have killed more Ukrainians than the Russians, might as well just start playing mind games.
But who knows, weren't their videos of the Russians bringing bigger gear? Maybe they really are going to all in. Or if the peace talks fail then they take one city at a time till Ukraine cries, uncle.

 

[Captain Manning]

screenshot of the tweet has already been posted. Here's the full pic.
Does he really think this will boost morale?

If King really wanted to stick it to Russia, he should offer to screen Maximum Overdrive in Russian theaters now that US movie studios are refusing to screen better films there.

If you've never seen that movie, all you need to know is that it's the only movie he ever directed, he was high on cocaine when he did so, and he no idea what the fuck he was doing (by his own admission).

 

[Kerwin White]

Remember when the deadliest virus ever came from China, but we were told racism was the real problem, and to go out and hug a Chinese person?

Not seeing much of that kind of rhetoric now. Instead we're pouring Russian vodka down the drain, for no reason at all.

 

[Gehenna]

Both sides (And china is clearly pushing a Pro-Russian side), are showing the map that looks best to them. The truth is kinda in the middle. The Ukrainian lines haven't totally collapsed as the Chinese stuff shows, but neither are they holding out a practical stalemate like the other map shows.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Neither, both are true. This is a map of the hardest fighting and where the Ukrainians are holding the line. The other map is where Russian forces are spreading out from without much fighting.

Ah, fair enough. Figured I'd ask since maps like that are often presented as evidence that the advance as a whole is stalled.

 

[garum expert]

Soldier who is completely fine except he is missing his face.

Spoiler: Death

 

[AGPinochet]

Day 6. The Ukrainian front has irretrievably collapsed.

The Russian army is bypassing the major urban centres, leaving them in the hands of Zelensky's pro-NATO units, to strike in depth.

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The main facts of the day:

• Zelensky's pro-NATO troops are unable to take the strategic initiative and are retreating or being overrun everywhere
• The Russian army has established its air superiority over the whole of Ukraine
• The Russian strategic north/south pincer is rapidly closing
• The siege of Kiev is accelerating
• The Russian army is now deep in western Ukraine, in the centre of the country (Vinnitsa region), on the left bank of the Dnieper
• With the imminent fall of Mariupol on the Sea of Azov, the Russians are about to create a continuous front from Kiev to Kherson
• All Ukrainian units in the Donbass are subject to a major encirclement manoeuvre in their rear (through Poltava - Dnepro in the north, through Zaporizhia in the south), the aim of which is to destroy all Ukrainian forces in the eastern half of the country

Northern axis (Kiev / Chernihiv)
A massive quantity of equipment from Belarus is transported by the Russian army around Kiev.

A convoy more than 60 kilometres long heading towards the capital was photographed by Western satellites.

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The Russian army has not launched a massive frontal assault on the capital so far, contenting itself with testing the enemy's position with scouts.

Further north, in Chernihiv, the last elements of pro-NATO troops are being methodically annihilated.

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Eastern axis (Sumy / Kharkov)
The city of Kharkov is surrounded, fighting is taking place on the outskirts of the city.

A recruitment centre was destroyed by a Russian raid.

Spoiler

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Eastern axis (Donbass)
A Russian breakthrough north of Luhansk has taken place, the junction in the west with the Russian forces in Crimea is achieved.

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Southern axis (Odessa / Mariupol)
Movement towards the Donbass
The junction of Donbass and Crimea is achieved.

The port of Mariupol, on the Sea of Azov, is surrounded by the Russian army and its capture is announced for today, but it could take another day.

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An explosion on the city's perimeter.

Spoiler

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Movement towards Odessa
The city of Kherson is completely surrounded.

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Spoiler

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Now maybe I am just a fucking retard but I actually trust the Chinese map for one reason and one reason only, I can think of no reason as to why the Chinks would lie about this one specific thing. I mean think about it, what would the chinks have to gain by making fake maps that practically nobody outside of China is going to see? To shore up confidence in their Pseudo-Ally Russia? Since when has public opinion mattered to the CCP? I just cannot think of a reason why the chinks would just make shit up, this goes against everything I have ever learned regarding trusting chinks but I genuinely cannot see why they would lie.

 

[Gehenna]

The Ukrainians in cities seem to have killed more Ukrainians than the Russians, might as well just start playing mind games.
But who knows, weren't their videos of the Russians bringing bigger gear? Maybe they really are going to all in. Or if the peace talks fail then they take one city at a time till Ukraine cries, uncle.

Russia's big gear is heavily defense-focused. The idea being to use Russia's great size to make every inch of Russian soil an absolute bloodbath to the enemy.

It's why Ukraine has no hope if the idea is to starve them out. It lets Russia entrench around the city and get to play off its best strength, its defense.

 

[Joe Swanson]

Remember when the deadliest virus ever came from China, but we were told racism was the real problem, and to go out and hug a Chinese person?

Not seeing much of that kind of rhetoric now. Instead we're pouring Russian vodka down the drain, for no reason at all.

Well you see, this is a war between white people where one side backs globohomo and the other offers soft resistance to globohomo. Compared to a non-white country that will happily fund globohomo abroad so long as it gets some kickback and doesn't affect them back home

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Now maybe I am just a fucking retard but I actually trust the Chinese map for one reason and one reason only, I can think of no reason as to why the Chinks would lie about this one specific thing.

They're China, they'll lie even when they don't have a reason to lie.

 

[Narutard]

This is how I know you are retarded. Google what Gulag is.

I’m sorry for your autism.