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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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All these countries sending Ukraine money and aid better keep the receipts. All you're doing is lining the Ukranian oligarchs' pockets.

Kinda funny how they have all this money to give away, but your average citizen can't even put a roof over their damn head because inflation has risen by 20% in 5 fucking years.
 
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All these countries sending Ukraine money and aid better keep the receipts. All you're doing is lining the Ukranian oligarchs' pockets.

Kinda funny how they have all this money to give away, but your average citizen can't even put a roof over their damn head because inflation has risen by 20% in 5 fucking years.
Yes, all money donated to ukraine goes to oligarchs. All guns goes to gangs in western Europe. Economic sanction benefit Russia and will be the end of the west. Putin can shut down gas any second now. Also ever ukrainian is nazi and killed at least 6 million russian families. Also, Putin cannot afford having Ukraine join to NATO because it is too close to Moscow to detect nuclear missles. However Lativa that is also in NATO is too far.

Did I miss anything? :cunningpepe:
 
I don't even know what to say. Hope the pic is staged and they are just addicted to upvotes

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Sounds like they're Ukrainians who lived in Ireland but returned for the war. Flying back to your own country to participate is fine, but if you're just flying over from another country to fight in a war that has nothing to do with you is pretty dumb.
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China always opposes any illegal unilateral sanctions, Chinese FM spokesperson Hua Chunying said on Wed. The US has imposed more than 100 sanctions on Russia since 2011, which not only failed to solve the issue but also harmed the legitimate rights and interests of others.


Wang Yi Speaks with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock on the Phone​


On February 26, 2022, State Councilor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi had a phone conversation with German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock at the latter's request.

The two sides exchanged views with a focus on the current situation in Ukraine.

Wang Yi said, China pays close attention to the evolving situation in Ukraine and supports all efforts conducive to easing the situation and political settlement. With regards to European security issues, all countries' legitimate concerns should be taken seriously. In the context of NATO's five consecutive rounds of eastward expansion, Russia's legitimate security demands ought to be properly addressed.

Wang Yi said, the Cold War has long gone, and it's necessary for NATO to reconsider its positioning and responsibilities. China believes that the Cold War mentality based on bloc confrontation should be completely discarded. China supports NATO, the EU and Russia in resuming dialogue aimed at building a balanced, effective and sustained European security mechanism, so as to achieve lasting peace and stability on the European continent.

Wang Yi said, China disapproves of the use of sanctions to solve problems, still less unilateral sanctions that have no basis in international law. It has long been proved that sanctions, far from being a solution, will only create new problems. Sanctions will not only cause a lose-lose or all-lose situation in economy, but also disrupt or impact on the political settlement process.

Wang Yi said, as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, China has always fulfilled its responsibility to maintain international peace and security. We believe that should the Security Council take action, it should contribute to a political settlement of the current crisis rather than instigate new antagonism and confrontation. In view of this, when the Security Council discussed the resolution related to the Ukraine issue, China prevented quoting expressions that contain the authorization of the use of force and sanctions. China will continue to play a constructive role in seeking and realizing peace.


On 26th Feb, News in China reports that Tech Giant #Huawei is planing to help Russia to train 50,000 tech experts immediately in response after Russia is under cyber-attacked.


China lifts restrictions on Russian wheat imports​


China has relaxed restrictions on imports of Russian wheat, a move that could address food security concerns in the world's second largest economy and ease the impact of Western sanctions on Russia.

The decision to allow imports of wheat from all regions of Russia was made during Russian President Vladimir Putin's visit to Beijing earlier this month, but the details were only announced by China's customs administration this week.

Russia is the world's top producer of wheat. Previously, China had restricted wheat imports from Russia due to concerns about the presence of dwarf bunt fungus — a disease that can cause severe loss of yield for wheat and other crops — in some parts of the country.

China has refused to condemn Russia's attack on Ukraine, instead repeating calls for parties to "exercise restraint" and accusing the United States of "fueling fire" in the region

The agreement is the latest in a series of deals between Russia and China, and according to experts, it helps both nations.

It helps Beijing secure food supplies at a time when global food prices are already near 10-year highs. Wheat futures jumped by about 5% on the Chicago Board of Trade on Thursday after Russia attacked Ukraine, as the two countries account for about a third of global supply. Futures pulled back a little on Friday, but are still up 12% this week.

Food security is a key priority for Chinese President Xi Jinping, who has called for increasing agricultural production and diversifying imports.

The agreement also provides Russia with a secure buyer at a time when exports to other countries might be complicated by financial sanctions or other disruption.

"Uncertainty around potential sanctions is beginning to create a potential supply shock," analysts from Goldman Sachs wrote Thursday in a research report.

"In our view, until the uncertainty around the rapidly escalating situation is resolved, commodity price risk remains skewed to the upside, with further escalation likely to send European natural gas, wheat, corn and oil prices higher from already-elevated levels," they said.

China will likely be "the benefactor" of Russian commodities as other countries pare back on Russian imports, they added.

The analysts expect Russian commodities and raw materials to be "redirected to China" if the demand from the rest of the world drops significantly on further escalation of geopolitical tensions.

China's decision has not gone down well with other countries.

On Friday, Australian Prime Minister Morrison slammed China over its "lack of a strong response."

"At a time when the world was seeking to put additional sanctions on Russia, they have eased restrictions on the trade of Russian wheat into China...and that is simply unacceptable," he said at a press conference.


TV tower hit was Russian strike, says Ukraine
We have more on the explosion near the television tower in Kyiv.

The Ukrainian government says the blast was the result of an attack by Russian forces.

The interior ministry said some equipment had been damaged and that "channels won't work for a while".


Five people reported dead in attack on Kyiv TV tower​

Ukrainian emergency services say five people were killed in the Russian attack on the Kyiv television tower.
It's unclear whether the tower itself was hit - it remains standing, but the blast took some broadcasts off air.
BBC Monitoring understands that five more people were injured in the missile strike.
But the 380-metre (1,247 feet) TV tower is still standing.

Russia 'barbaric' for attacking TV tower near Holocaust memorial - Ukraine​

Ukraine's foreign ministry said Russia was barbaric for attacking a TV tower near a memorial site that commemorates the victims of Babyn Yar.
Babyn Yar was one of the biggest single massacres of Jews during the Nazi Holocaust.
The site contains a a cluster of memorials to remember those who died, including a separate one for the children.
On twitter, the foreign ministry said "Russian troops fired on the TV tower, near the Memorial complex #BabynYar".
It added: "Russian criminals do not stop at anything in their barbarism. Russia = barbarian."


Russian column near Kyiv hampered by breakdowns

Some clarity on that massive Russian armoured column heading south towards Kyiv.

Close analysis of the latest satellite images by McKenzie Intelligence Services reveals the following:

  • The convoy is not 40 miles long, it’s a series of logistical ‘packets’ strung out along a major highway from the Belarus border, aiming to link up with Russian units on the northern outskirts of Kyiv.
  • The convoy appears to be hampered in several places by broken down vehicles.
  • The column consists of some armour (tanks) and infantry fighting vehicles but mainly logistical vehicles, implying plans for more than just a brief battle.
Separately, the imagery examined by McKenzie Intelligence Services shows a Russian parachute battalion dug in to the area of Hostomel airfield - Ukraine's most important international cargo airport and a key military airbase near Kyiv.

But their artillery is assessed to be outside the range of most of the capital.

The analysts say they have noted very little Russian progress over the past 24 hours.

 
This whole sudden war shit is sus as hell and feels fake as shit. A lot of shit lately has felt fakeass hit but this shit suddenly coming out of nowhere and the reactions to it like pulling anything with a vaguely russian name from sale fucking glows so much you can see it from space. From what I remember seeing a few days ago ukranians and russians were generally like "what the FUCK?!" int erms of reaction to the shit so it'd make sense for them to just be attempting to get the fuck out of the conflict zone.
 
Yes, all money donated to ukraine goes to oligarchs. All guns goes to gangs in western Europe. Economic sanction benefit Russia and will be the end of the west. Putin can shut down gas any second now. Also ever ukrainian is nazi and killed at least 6 million russian families. Also, Putin cannot afford having Ukraine join to NATO because it is too close to Moscow to detect nuclear missles. However Lativa that is also in NATO is too far.

Did I miss anything? :cunningpepe:
Don't forget Putin will save us all from globohomo and transsexuals, and when he is done with the Ukrainian Nazis he will put an end to the power of Ukrainian Jews, and at some point he will reclaim the Hagia Sophia for Orthodox Christianity. (An old meme, but a good one.)

Putin's decision is so irrational, in an attempt to make sense of it, every possible motive has been ascribed to him. I still think the RIA Novosti editorial makes sense.

Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians.

Vladimir Putin has assumed, without a drop of exaggeration, a historic responsibility by deciding not to leave the solution of the Ukrainian question to future generations. After all, the need to solve it would always remain the main problem for Russia - for two key reasons. And the issue of national security, that is, the creation of anti-Russia from Ukraine and an outpost for the West to put pressure on us, is only the second most important among them.

The first would always be the complex of a divided people, the complex of national humiliation - when the Russian house first lost part of its foundation (Kiev), and then was forced to come to terms with the existence of two states, not one, but two peoples.

But maybe that's just the rationale for Russian citizens, something to make them feel better about the whole thing.

 
I'm curious what the eventual outcome of Swiss banks getting involved will be. Make no mistake, Switzerland is a criminal empire just like Russia, but they've been doing it for way longer and way cleaner - Until now, when they've visibly demonstrated their ability to seize billions of dollars of private wealth. Not only that, with how opaque their entire banking system and laws surrounding it are, who knows if that seizure will ever be released. Who could possibly enforce the return of that money, or prove it had been done properly?

Swiss secrecy is on such level that those Russian oligarchs can't even prove they ever had any money there to begin with.

I do. I think that's exactly what he and Xi were expecting. They've been wanting to cease trading oil for greenbacks for a long time, and now they've managed to get their enemies to do it for them.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.


Biden will be holding another press conference tomorrow. He should throw out that he'll start lifting certain sanctions provided Russia deescalates the situation. The EU has mostly been operating independently but I'm sure they would follow America's lead and do something similar. All of us have too much to lose and too little to gain from a world war over some shitty eastern European land

First off, I don't believe that Putin alone even can launch nukes. Secondly, this isn't just some turf war over some insignificant part of the world. If the rest of the world allows Putin to trample Ukraine, it sends a clear message to Russians that they can trample their next target also.


Sounds like they're Ukrainians who lived in Ireland but returned for the war. Flying back to your own country to participate is fine, but if you're just flying over from another country to fight in a war that has nothing to do with you is pretty dumb.
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It's also extremely common. Western European countries have surprisingly many men who want to(or who don't have any other options available due to criminal backgrounds etc) become soldiers, but who are either rejected by their national militaries or who actually want to get some real action in real war. It's quite natural if you think about it, as modern, peaceful society might be a bit too complacent for certain personality types.
 
It's also extremely common. Western European countries have surprisingly many men who want to(or who don't have any other options available due to criminal backgrounds etc) become soldiers, but who are either rejected by their national militaries or who actually want to get some real action in real war. It's quite natural if you think about it, as modern, peaceful society might be a bit too complacent for certain personality types.
Fair enough, if it's their only choice or they just want to go and kill or be killed that's at least for their own sake. I was thinking more of the people who would go there to fight because they think Putin is some neo-Hitler that they have to sacrifice themselves to stop or some other gay shit that the media fed to them.
 
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Flying back to your own country to participate is fine, but if you're just flying over from another country to fight in a war that has nothing to do with you is pretty dumb.
That's literally what mercenaries do all the time, and the whole basis behind the French Foreign Legion. It isn't dumb at all. It was actually common throughout history, even the norm at some points, for most of a nation's forces to be foreign mercenaries and the like. Modern professional armies made up of citizens is a very modern thing.
 
I actually agree with China's response. Isolating Russia from the world is just going to spread resentment from Putin to the citizenry and they'll pick another strongman for a leader instead of a negotiator willing to do business.
As much as I despise China. They aren't completely wrong here saddly. Isolated Putin more is just going to cause more problems.
 
For all the people up here like "muh Hitler", do you even know what the USSR was?

They made Hitler look like a day tripper.

Russians in general and Soviets in particular have always considered life to be very, very cheap.

I know the communist menace is considered overblown in the West these days, but some of y'all need to learn about the Holodomor, gulags, Norilsk, the Great Game, the Berlin Wall, the Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia, Kremlinology, Stalingrad, the Bolshevik revolution and the Russian Civil War, Trotsky, Khrushchev, kulaks... most of the leaders of the USSR were not above slaughtering or vanning hundreds of thousands of their own people to make a point.


And unlike the 3rd Reich, which lasted for 12 years, this went on for 80 years, or about as long as American slavery. Generations of people were born and died in this system where you could have a bag put over your head for owning an un-registered typewriter.

Putin was in the KGB and he has said that the collapse of the USSR was the greatest tragedy of the 20th century.

TL;DR: Fuck that guy.
 
Yes I am American. And I'm well aware of that. Did you think they were either your friends?
You don't get it at all.

Ukraine is in someway integrated with EU countries by several ties. EU countries was various interests in Ukraine, e.g:

- normal business investments,
- wide lit of ukrainian corporations are listed on Warsaw Stock Exchenge,
- dozens of thousands ukrainian students on european universities,
- hundreds of thousands ukrainian workers on various postions throgh Europe (not only in low-paid jobs or IT),
- decent group of Europeans was living in Ukrainie previous to war and was fulfilling various roles in Ukraine.

Also they are ties between normal folks on famili ground between countries. Ukraine is in position like Palau or Federation of Micronesia from USA perspective - independent, but very clouse country.

Russians didn't attack just a random country. They attacked country that in few years will be a EU candidate and finally a EU member. In this perspective this is like Mexico invading Texas when Texas was shortly living independent country. Also some emotions play role in this situation: Ukraine is to this time only country, which citizens was figting on their soil under european flag.

Russia was just stupid enough to take position of weak, but rich in natural resources country just in european backyard. They have a option to by mostly ignored class idiot, but then attacked Georgia. They have option to be a ignored wannabe class bully after that, but them they take Crimea. Now they do two different things:

- they performed a war for the third time,
- they show how pathetic their army is.

And from some reasons EU isn't looking to be affraid about russians nuclear weapon. Curios why, but now it looks like EU/NATO wasn't at all taking care of perspective of nuclear war (perhaps their stupid, but I bet on other option: their aresure that preemptive attack will neutralize russian nuclear potential or their are no risk at all of attack).
 
>Afghanistan and Myanmar to vote against Russia at UN
What the fuck?

You've fucked up somewhere along the road quite bad when even the Taliban start to think that this isn't okay. Then again they might actually, for once, have genuine sympathy towards Ukrainians, having themselves fought Soviet Union in the past.
 
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