Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[draggs]

It doesn't necessarily actually justify it, but in their minds it does, which is just as relevant.

Yes it is. But it's not our problem, it's theirs. Russia's choices are now be the West's bitch, be China's bitch, or try to deal on their own with being shut out of the party. It didn't have to be that way. I don't know what concessions Putin could have tard wrangled out of Biden and the EU if he had sat down to negotiate, but they surely would have been more beneficial than what Russia is getting out of Ukraine now and will be getting out of the West for a long time.

 

[Happy Fish]

It's unfortunate but Soros is going to outlive us all.
Shame.

He is 91... Not that it matters much because he does have at least one kid that says the same shit.

 

[Sammich]

But you're saying things that are almost provably false. They are shelling some cities indiscriminately with artillery, not smart bombs. Just because they don't have the capacity to do 1,000 sorties doesn't necessarily mean that they're being careful. You may be attributing to compassion what could be better attributed to current inability.

No one knows why, yet. Are you arguing he doesn't have the capability to flatten these cities? That's provably false.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

We talk about Trump because he took situations like this seriously, instead of just moralfagging about them. U.S. diplomacy from 1992-2016 was based on the premises:

1. It's different when we do it.
2. Governments we don't like have no legitimate interests.
3. Foreign policy tools that hurt US corporate interests are off the table.
4. Nothing the US does is an act of war.

I don't know what Trump would have done. I do know he kept us out of war for four years. I also know that he was under siege by the government and both parties for four years, which hindered his effectiveness. And I'm relatively certain that if Russia had demanded that Ukraine not be admitted to NATO, and a guarantee that no missiles would be stationed there that could hit Moscow, the Trump admin would not have responded by escalating with wargames designed to simulate an attack on Russia. He would have done, I don't know what, but something not mind-meltingly stupid. Underneath Trump's public persona was a deadly serious person who didn't treat reality like it was a made-for-Netflix movie plot, and I miss that.

GREAT post.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

You're making it sound like they carpet bombed indiscriminately, which you know is patently absurd.

They didn't bomb Iraq indiscriminately. Otoh, they weren't trying very hard to not kill Iraqis - estimates range between 400,000 and 1,000,000 died in that war. That's on top of the 500,000 children who died from sanctions between 1991 and 96, which Secretary of State Madeleine Albright smirkingly said was "worth it".

It's not a competition and what Russia is doing is evil, but they haven't come anywhere close to the levels of death and destruction our Western, liberal, human rights loving democracies have unleashed on countries that never even threatened us over the last three decades. Not including random wedding parties in Fuckholistan that get dismembered by our drones of peace from time to time, because Murica!

 

[Sammich]

Gas in my area went up 20 cents in 2 days.

3.29 to 3.49 here overnight. and it was 2.99 a week or so ago.

 

[burntwater]

3.29 to 3.49 here overnight. and it was 2.99 a week or so ago.

It was $3.49 near me Friday and was $3.79 this morning.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I’m beginning to understand why some people don’t like Ukrainians. This mass media campaign is having the opposite effect on me

 

[Margo Martindale]

Lol some south American countries operate even older. One of them has an operational river gunboat over 100 years old.

The Russian salvage ship Kommuna is still in active service

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

3.76 where i'm at, but if makes the lives of the DC bugpeople I have to live near miserable, I will take the sacrifice of a quarter or two.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

AMD - Microchip Supply Ban and Preparing for Video Card Supply Ban

NVIDIAbros... we won

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Pantshitter cracked open our reserve because russia bad everyone else is doing it for absolutely no reason because he and his administration somehow have no idea how the market works.
Also this thread gains like fifty pages a minute arguing about which subspecies of slav is more virtuous and brave so I can safely say that I think mint is the most overrated flavoring ever.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

Laugh at this fucking moron
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"XAXAXAXAXA LET'S THROW BALLON OF PAINT AT THE RUSSIAN"
>throws
>gets blown to pieces by the tank
Westerners: "WOW! SO HEROIC! HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF THE WETTER OF KIEV?"

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

Its easy to say that but Eastern European countries still remember how life looked like under Ruskies. It ended about 30 years ago, people who were alive back then are still alive now.
No one wants to live like that willingly.
Not if there is a choice.

If it was any other country then propably Ukraineans wouldn't give much fucks, as long as they d treat them humanely.

>Living under Ruskies
You mean living under (in the 20th century)

>A Russian Tsar of mostly German ethnicity
>A Russian Jew
>A Georgian
>A Bulgar Macedonian
>A Ukrainian
>Another Ukrainian
>A Russian
>A Russian
>A half Ukrainian/Russian

Yes, just the Russians.

 

[Oxous]

It was $3.49 near me Friday and was $3.79 this morning.

$3.79 this morning, $3.90 now for me.

 

[MrJokerRager]

American's can afford cars. Only bugmen want to ride mass transit.


Even American Coal is being made great again.
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>Putin bombing Anime Vturbers (this is where Putin won me over)
>Twitter and Reddit SEEETHING
>The whole CRP saga.
>Ghost stories
>Funny stuff like Sam Hyde on Tucker
>Tank action
>Muh Stonks
>WEF stopped dead in its tracks
>Eurocucks fucked over
No matter what the shills say they will never be able to convince me this war is a bad thing.

This war has shown that Democrats should stay in their own lane.

The Republicans are masters of war propaganda like the GWOT era showed and made it natural and convincing that it was a great idea to bomb some goatherders and camel jockeys. The GWOT had great asthestics as well. Also Bush did not to his credit renew the AWB.

The Democrats attempting it, is just gay and unnatural and still obsessed with niggers and trannies while trying to convince me to hate Americans of Russian descent when niggers and illegals jumping the border are greater threats. Also still want to take away the guns while arming retarded slavniggers miles away.

 

[Uncle Buck]

It's unfortunate but Soros is going to outlive us all.
Shame.

Also,sorry if that was there, but check this:

War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Ukrainian Military-Political Leadership in Donbass - Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the United Nations Office in Geneva

Presentation Ukrainian War Crimes : The Saker : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Report on Ukrainian atrocities

archive.org

Deliberately taken from one of discord servers.

It's not just the freaking Assad-lite behavior the clownish, cross-dressing comedian has engaged in - apparently without complaint by anyone but Russia and the inhabitants of Crimea, Donbass and the breakaway republics...

It's the fact that apparently, while being basically unknown until the famed Trump phone-call which made it clear just how personally corrupt Joe Biden is, he's been the most powerful world leader there is! Based on everything I've read his complaints alone are what stopped NS2 dead, got the US conducting joint wargames on Ukrainian soil and was literally shoe-banging mad for nukes.

And this, despite coming to power - and that over perhaps this shittiest of shithole countries on Earth - in a more illegitimate election than the one here in 2020 and being... no-one!

 

[JambledUpWords]

Jill Biden here to tell you that we are all so lucky to have Joe handle this

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I was saving up me pennies to buy something from a Russian on etsy and hours away from my paycheck I find out that they're getting/got blocked ffs

I wanted one of those Vostok mechanical automatic watches because fuck the battery jew, now I'm stuck with my granny's old gold ladies watch, which is pretty but not for every day. Fuck Biden, I'll get one, somehow.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

Yes it is. But it's not our problem, it's theirs. Russia's choices are now be the West's bitch, be China's bitch, or try to deal on their own with being shut out of the party. It didn't have to be that way. I don't know what concessions Putin could have tard wrangled out of Biden and the EU if he had sat down to negotiate, but they surely would have been more beneficial than what Russia is getting out of Ukraine now and will be getting out of the West for a long time.

Minsk II was that tardwrangle and it failed to ever be implemented, the US and Russia tried talks over and over but all the Americans ever offered was money and relief of sanctions they imposed in exchange for Russia giving up Crimea and throwing the Donbas to the wolves (both completely unacceptable).