Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[Futaba]

Also it would appear our reddit pooner hero u/baby baby whatever.. Is also the genius behind some of the best original Tube drawings!
You can tell by the similar aesthetic and they can mostly be dug up on her page, here’s a couple of new ones

Dammnnnn this person is responsible for like 90% of tube art - they should get into NFTs stat. Their profile is quite a fun read - love this work of art:

 

[A Dark Day Indeed]

Also here's a bonus because what's the point of this thread if it's not being mean about Ollie?

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Damn, you actually managed to make me feel bad for Ollie. This is weapons grade ooftonium.

 

[aanoo]

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In fulfillment of the Scriptures, babe.

Doing the dishes like a true and honest woman! Also I feel like he wanted to call himself Ada because of Nabokov, because of Contra, but chickened out

 

[AfghanBlue]

i will not allow yaoi-addicted schizoposters to appropriate the word pooner

Spoiler: powerlevel

that has been my dog’s nickname for well over a decade. i claimed it first they can’t have it

anyway Ol Lie’s nose looks like shit lmao

(is it becos he does poos?)

Damn, you actually managed to make me feel bad for Ollie. This is weapons grade ooftonium.

I don’t understand how he has a hair stylist, a stylist, and a makeup artist-

YES we have covered him steamrolling their creative direction, thus being pointless in that respect;
but literally his hair is not neat looking style aside, his face looks greasy makeup aesthetic aside, and however shit he dictates his look is, why are his clothes so CHEAP?

I guess the budget gets swallowed up in paying their day rate and thus no money for product?
But shit, the hair has no excuse

Considering he’s Mr MUH VISION, I don’t get why he doesn’t wanna be in control of that himself?
Imagine if he spent his wasted stylist budget on actual clobber- given that most of the stuff he wears is stuff he could wear in normal life anyway?
Fucking baffling- I guess, taking from the BTS, he just likes being primped and powdered?

Wack, and total John energy: probs why the whole reason he made his sex work video was to make himself feel fine about being a whore-frequenter

 

[lady stoneheart]

(is it becos he does poos?)

Spoiler: extremely gross you have been warned

when she got her first period before she was spayed, her vulva swelled up to the size of a baseball. it was truly shocking, it looked like a fresh amhole. my friend saw it and said something like “oh my god, look at that poon” and it just stuck and from that point on her nickname has been The Pooner

 

[squirt reynolds]

Spoiler: extremely gross you have been warned

when she got her first period before she was spayed, her vulva swelled up to the size of a baseball. it was truly shocking, it looked like a fresh amhole. my friend saw it and said something like “oh my god, look at that poon” and it just stuck and from that point on her nickname has been The Pooner

i'm very happy

Spoiler

the name is based around your dog's 'giney

p funny

 

[Nate Higgers]

I was looking at this image :

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and planning to post it and talk shit on that ugly nude lipstick, but my computer refused to open the jpeg and i had to screenshot it, so I am forced to assume that even my laptop is aesthetically offended by Olly's choices and was only trying to protect me from gazing upon his mug.

Anyway that nude lipstick is awful. There's a reason we stopped putting concealer on our lips in the 00s, it makes your lips look dry and awful. The muted foundation with 0 colour and the nude background just wash him out even more so it looks like his lips have dissappeared into his face, and coupled with his bizarro surgery nose and poor contouring the entire effect is less Princess of TERF island and more He-who-shall-not-be-deadnamed.

Spoiler: Neither nostril can live while the other survives

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My mans looks like a lizard

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

Are my eyes fucky or is his chin's lowest point off-center? Leaning right from our perspective, his left.

His nose looked better before. Both more feminine and attractive for a guy. Shame

I don't know if I would call it feminine but it definitely fit better with his face.

 

[The Best of Me]

Been meaning to share this for a while, but I can't recommend this documentary 'Dysphoric' enough. Very high production values for gender critical content on Youtube (as if there's even a benchmark to meet). It's basically about how woke politics of 1st world countries are completely fucking up the safety of women in developing nations, with a particular focus on India.

I remember watching this within hours of it being first released, and I remember something about that second graphic struck me.....

Who does that remind me of ..........

Spoiler: Ionising levels of autogynesmirk

PLOT TWIST: Enhance that image......

Spoiler: When you see it...

Huh. I guess that's why Little Lord Lennard hasn't tried to get the vid nuked

 

[admiral]

I did notice Ozzy's head of hair is damn impressive and I like his make up.

His hair looks okay because he has a stylist and, unlike most MTFs, he actually washes and brushes his hair on a regular basis. The bar for MTF hair is on the floor- most of these mfs don't know how to take care of long hair (still using 2-in-1 shampoo, not getting the right kind of products, washing too often or not enough, just pointing a blowdryer at their heads until the hair is dry with no styling or brushing, not brushing it right, frying it with bleach and due and never using protective styles or products). Male hair is thicker and coarser than womens', but it can look lovely and soft and shiny if it's cared for.

His hairline is thinning a bit, so you rarely see him with his hair up without some hair overlapping his forehead. His makeup looks terrible, like something you'd use on a burn victim, but it is better than the standard MTF so there's that. Any credit he gets is nullified by the fact that he has a stylist, however. He should not be looking this busted with a team of people working on him.

 

[Ninon42]

I’m just having a look to see what his sub count on YT is looking like. It says he has 1.1 million.
I’m not really sure if that’s up or down.
I can’t really figure out the social blade type websites, they seem to state a small increase in subscribers even though it looks on the graphs that it is sinking.

Ah hello, graphs and spreadsheets are my happy place and today is the monthly reset on Graphtreon, so allow me some concentrated autism on how to read the data and laugh at Olly even more.

Spoiler: Data spergery ahoy

First, SocialBlade:

Let's ignore the rankings and focus instead on the number of new subs in the past 30 days. 10K is not a number to sneeze at for a new creator, but for a youtuber with 1.1M subs, that's about a 0.91% increase overall. It's also a steady number, consistent with the previous month's increase as shown by the 0.0% in green next to the 10K. His growth rate is sluggish despite consistent output. Below that is the total subs graph, and you'll note the flatline between spikes, almost like a heart monitor. That's not good. Unless he deliberately gets people's attention through video releases or twitter spergery, people aren't just watching his videos, coming across them organically and bingeing them, that sort of thing. Video views shows that he does get views with new videos, but the graph beneath of total video views shows those new videos don't have legs-- his simps (or hatewatchers like us) watch them once and forget them. Poor rewatchability, not getting new eyes on them as shown by the new subs numbers:

Is he getting views? Sure, some. His latest video came out on Saturday the 26th and you can see 100K new views on that day for it. Impressive in theory but he has 1.1M subs, so only 10% of his subs bothered to watch the day of. Chube's latest is currently sitting at 559K views, barely 50% sub engagement, and it brought in no new subs per the subscribers columns. He's preaching to his simps alone.

Gained views and subs over time in graphical form reinforces the musings above. While growth hasn't flatlined, it has stagnated. Troon Tube is not appealing to a mass market. To be fair, Olly also has videos on Nebula as a creator in Standard's stable, and that includes sponsor money on top of adsense! Next, where the real money lies: Patreon

Graphtreon is great for showing how many paypigs (aka Patrons) a creator has. Some will also show how much they make but Chube, true to his upper class English roots, would never be so vulgar as to speak of money publicly lol. The righthand graph shows the daily changes in paypigs and the drop is at the start of every month as Patreon bills people and pigs need to renew billing. This drop happens to every creator, but the depth of the dropoff says a lot about the retention factor of a creator. Typically a creator will then gain back pigs or get new ones over the course of the month, with their success or failure at this endeavor shown by the slope of the line. Until the last few months, Olly's been near flatlining and paypigs have quietly left at a steady clip. Not sure what the November increase is related to. The graph on the left shows the gentle decline of his overall paypigs over the past year, all of which occurred after he trooned out. Not a dramatic decrease but a steady one which only this month somewhat leveled out at a level almost exactly where he was pre-trooning.

The graphs above show Olly's numbers over the last year, but a wider look at two years shows both his baseline pre-troon around 6K, the tranny announcement spike around Jan 2021 and the gradual decline since then back down to his core paypigs. Youtubers are like cancer, if they aren't growing they're failing. At the moment, Olly has 319 more paypigs than he started with pre-transition over a year ago. Oof at that piddling growth, as sad and flaccid as his HRT dick.

One other good thing to note is that many people think there is a correlation between lots of Twitter followers and success on other platforms or through monetization. Is that true?

No, not really. Twitter is a useful tool for fan engagement but it is also a risky pit of vipers, as Olly's acquaintance Lindsay Ellis learned to her detriment. There is no correlation between Twitter follows and monetization.
So hopefully that helped in learning some fun and new ways to laugh at Olly!

 

[AssignedEva]

Imagine what an *un*fortunate angle looks like!

Well it looks like London Trans+ Pride will be on Saturday the 25th June (not officially announced yet) but I don't know if Ollie will attend again (I especially doubt he'll get to do a speech again, which is his only real M.O. for attending).

The 50th Gay Liberation Front Pride is coming up this year (the Gay Liberation Front eventually became Pride In London, and the first Pride march they organised was 1972, having formed in 1970) in July - but they're having a "think in" planning meeting on the 18th of March, which is getting spicy. They want UK Black Pride and London Trans+ Pride there because essentially the smaller prides constantly shit on Pride In London for having like Barclays Bank floats or police present (they don't really have a choice in the latter) and really want to rebrand as all inclusive and intersectional. I guess it's possible he might go to that and bang his drum about protesting gatekeeping.

Failing that, if he does get a theatre show on the stage this year, your resident sperg will be in a front row seat. With a camera.

 

[Dromedary]

Ah hello, graphs and spreadsheets are my happy place and today is the monthly reset on Graphtreon, so allow me some concentrated autism on how to read the data and laugh at Olly even more.

Very helpful, interesting and service-y. Thanks!

They want UK Black Pride and London Trans+ Pride there because essentially the smaller prides constantly shit on Pride In London for having like Barclays Bank floats or police present (they don't really have a choice in the latter) and really want to rebrand as all inclusive and intersectional. I guess it's possible he might go to that and bang his drum about protesting gatekeeping.

Ugh. Are gay people allowed to attend? Never mind. Just ain't for us no mo.

 

[Notorious AGP]

He's apparently cracked a lot of eggs just scrolling thru the comments. Imagine idolizing this smug creep:

 

[PennyAni]

I sometimes see comments to this effect, but I don't really get why some people think Olly is somehow a less honest trans than anyone else? All male-to-female transgenderism just seems to be a sexual fetish thing and always based on this fictitious male gaze thing you mention here. But it could be that I am also uninformed on this. I'm just not sure how Olly is worse than anyone else in this regard.

He's seen- by many or most of us anyway- as being a "less honest trans" than some others for numerous reasons: there was the seeming suddenness of his transition; the blatant careerism involved (using transitioning to try and get more niche acting roles; exploding onto the public stage the minute he came out with interviews and his smarmy video and "official public announcement"; his seeming wish to not be a woman so much as to be a trans person, which gives people a good amount of social capital right off the bat, as well as a new set of standards wrt talking obscene shit about actual women; his apparent lack of any kind of gender dysphoria; his extreme self-aggrandizement ("trans princess of TERF island", "one of the most famous trans people", "doing YouTube at the top level in the world", etc.).

A lot of us suspect that him being trans is very likely a grift.

 

[illhavetwo]

He's seen- by many or most of us anyway- as being a "less honest trans" than some others for numerous reasons: there was the seeming suddenness of his transition; the blatant careerism involved (using transitioning to try and get more niche acting roles; exploding onto the public stage the minute he came out with interviews and his smarmy video and "official public announcement"; his seeming wish to not be a woman so much as to be a trans person, which gives people a good amount of social capital right off the bat, as well as a new set of standards wrt talking obscene shit about actual women; his apparent lack of any kind of gender dysphoria; his extreme self-aggrandizement ("trans princess of TERF island", "one of the most famous trans people", "doing YouTube at the top level in the world", etc.).

A lot of us suspect that him being trans is very likely a grift.

Yeah, I get the feeling it's like a method acting job for him. Like, how well can I perform "woman"? I'm not convinced he is AGP even though if he's into Contra he's probably GAMP and GAMP is best friends with AGP, so maybe. With him it feels more like careerism, a bountiful source of narcissistic supply, valuable social currency by switching from oppressor rich white male to daily genocided transwoman, and an exciting acting challenge all in once.

 

[cia-log]

I seriously doubt it's a grift. If it was you would imagine he'd be better at reading a room, but a lot of his behavior comes across as compulsive to the point where even diehard fans feel put off by it.

I do think his transition was opportunistic, but I don't think he has the self-awareness to realize it either. I sometimes wonder if he's one of those kids from wealthy striver households who feels such enormous pressure to be exceptional rather than average that he can't tell the difference between being loved and accepted unconditionally and being praised for his accomplishments. I say this because aside from his constant need to be the center of attention on twitter (which again, why would someone who's faking it for money pretend to be this way) his content all comes across as "look look here's a novel way to frame this issue that everyone is currently talking about look it's nuanced and unique and I came up with it now tell me I'm smart and special and that you love me and you're proud of me mom and dad patrons and fans of the channel" Like Contra basically checked out of content creation and pivoted towards just answering personal questions on livestreams, whereas Olly seems desperate to be the smartest person in the room and just has to comment on things even if he has nothing meaningful to say. He sometimes comments on how successful and loved he is as a public figure and youtube star and a political commentator, not just by expressing he's happy he made it but by comparing himself to others (I'm one of the top youtubers, the most famous trans person in all of etc) which usually comes across as tone-deaf, but again I think it's something he needs to believe about himself and just couldn't help saying it out loud.

I wouldn't be surprised if he felt a deep jealousy after seeing Contra's success and misidentified it as gender dysphoria. He has a tendency to explain away negative feelings in a conveniently woke way, like when he was told people are getting tired of his self-centeredness and he rationalized it by saying "I'm not bothering my fans by talking constantly about what a special boy I am, I'm experiencing misogyny! Of course!" So whatever feelings he had that led him to transition I doubt he examined them carefully or honestly. Who knows though.

 

[PennyAni]

@cia-log

Good points, all. Wrt it all being a grift, I'm not at all certain of it, but if, let's say it was revealed this year that it was a grift, I would be not at all shocked.

I basically agree with everything you said. His transition has been completely, 100% opportunistic and he's surely sucking every bit of privilege and social victim capital he can out of it. If I had to guess at an actual diagnosis, I'd probably say he's not truly what I think of as trans in that he doesn't truly believe he's a woman inside nor does he struggle with any dysphoria. I think he's somewhere between narcissistic, confused and turned on by the whole show of being a "woman".

 

[EdiblePanties]

I wouldn't be surprised if he felt a deep jealousy after seeing Contra's success and misidentified it as gender dysphoria.

I wouldn't be surprised if he held some jealously towards Lindsey Ellis too.
He definitely sought her out and then used her to get more followers and fame through her. He probably sweet-talked her good to land the audiobook gig for her book, only to troon out and ruin it.

Did he even come to her defense once her cancelling begun?

 

[AfghanBlue]

I wouldn't be surprised if he held some jealously towards Lindsey Ellis too.


Did he even come to her defense once her cancelling begun?

Nah, he made two posts, one flippant attempt at a joke about cancel culture, when she was safely gone , one directly RTing her suicide byebye making it all about himself and how she had helped make him the megastar he is.