Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Matt Damon]

"I don't know what's going on."

Less than a minute later.

"Allow me to speak authoritatively about what's going on."

Youtubers somehow combine all the worst traits of lying journalists, know-nothing celebrities, and ivory-tower academics.

 

[Joe Swanson]

Odds are pretty good that Russia is going to move into Moldova over the next 72 hours and link up with the 'peacekeepers' in Transnistria. Expect the EU position to intensify substantially when that happens.

Moldova isn't in NATO, so it wouldn't be surprising

 

[Breadbassket]

The four explosions heard in the center of Kiev moments ago reportedly were in the districts of Pecherskyi, Pozniaky, and Holosiivkyi

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

Why are companies going "We're going to erase the mention that Russia exists, but support Ukraine all the way". Have they never thought of the long-term consequences like creating terrorists and actual racism? Why care when it's a foreign war in the first war in the first place? It's not even on their homeland.
I only 'care' the tiniest bit about this foreign war, and that is checking here just in case things are about go south before someone drags everyone in this war or something.

Not even Serbia was that demonized back in the day.
...well, they were but now they're going after anything Russian or even not totally Slava Ukraini.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

because of the cultural barrier is hard to measure how big is opposition to Putin regime on there, it makes me genuinely wonder if they just absolutely hate Putin's guts or if he's actually seen as a genuine good leader

There are two main kinds of Putin opponents in Russia:

The Liberals:

The professional losers of Russian history, when the Liberal is not idolizing Western Europe or raging about the very real issues plaguing Russia, they dream of an alternate history where the Mensheviks won the Russian civil war. While the Liberal has many accurate and fair criticisms of Russia (corruption and social inequality being the big ones) their foreign policy is so weak and cucked that they would probably ruin everything. Economically they are very capitalist and reform-minded compared to other parties.

The two times Liberal Republicans did get into power in Russia (February 1917 and 1990) they promptly drove the country into a fucking ditch and nearly destroyed it. Has support among the urban middle class and some reformist-minded oligarchs

The Ultra-nationalists:

A "strange bedfellows" alliance of Tsarist Nostalgics and Russian Socialists, the Ultranationlists in Russia are not in fact an invention of Call of Duty 4. They tend to be to the left economically, believing Putin's rule to be far too pro-oligarch and too free-market in approach. They also believe Russia's foreign policy is not aggressive enough, and dream of a reunited Rus as well as kicking out the Muslim migrants from Central Asia.

That being said, they still support Putin as a better option than the Liberals who they hate, and are allied with the United Russia party of Putin. These Ultra-nationalists played a very important role in the establishment of the breakaway Donbas Republics. One prominent example of this is Strelkov Girkin, who was the first defense minister of the DNR. Alexander Dugin is one of the more prominent faces of the ideology.

Has support in the Russian army, security services and parts of the Diplomatic corps. Support base is some older Russians, Army veterans and military officers.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

You haven't provided any proof Hamas fires from schools.

lol I just browsed the front page and realized it's a pro Israeli propaganda site. Right on cue, just after I said it was Israeli propaganda you respond by sending me a link to a pro Israeli NGO site.

it literally quotes a un report

The Government of Israel showed the Board a video, which the Board concluded was authentic, showing the launching of a projectile from within the school premises on 14 July. The Government also provided a document which was said to identify the places close to the school from which rockets had been launched, together with the dates of those launches. The Board concluded that it was highly likely that an unidentified Palestinian armed group could have used the school premises to launch attacks on or around 14 July.

 

[Breadbassket]

Another view of the explosion in Kiev. Not sure if this is thermobaric or what.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Odds are pretty good that Russia is going to move into Moldova over the next 72 hours and link up with the 'peacekeepers' in Transnistria. Expect the EU position to intensify substantially when that happens.

If it does we all know how mainline Twitter, Reddit, etc. will react, more coping and more seething, but I'm curious how the Pro-Russians will react, most have been using the War in Donbass as justification for invading Ukraine, so I'm curious how they will react if Moldova ends up invaded too.

 

[A_throwaway_name62919]

Here's a reasonably decent video on how the sanctions will be effecting Russia's aviation industry:

 

[Peepeepoopoo1596]

I know people have joked about "Russia didn't take Ukraine in 2 days that mean Putin sharted and pissed himself!!!!!!" but how long can Russia realistically sustain the invasion without pissing and shitting and cumming?

 

[FAQnews Correspondent]

it's a good thing. The real threat to America is China and turning Russia against them creates such a threat to the Chinese homeland that they will be severely constrained in sending resources into foreign influence and adventures. If you can cozy up to the Saudis and Pinochet Putin's Russia should be relatively easy, but between reflexive cold war thinking and Ukraine succesfully becoming the retirement fund for a lot of corrupt Western elites America has acted against its own broader strategic interests.

Who gives a fuck about the nations interests? The interests of the elites have been way more important.

 

[AnaphylacticShock]

Come one bro, don't slander Hunter and Joepedo like that. Here are the facts:

-Hunter had shady texts messages with his niece (Beau's daughter) implying he fucked her after he was done with Beau's widow. Great guy.

-Joe showered with his daughter, Ashley, when she was a pre-teen. She wrote about it in her diary which has since been confirmed as legit. Ashley went on to become a promiscuous drug addict but that had NOTHING to do with being molested by her father in the shower.

In all fairness, I'd say it's still possible that Hunter molested his daughter and Joe showered with his granddaughter. We just don't have the proof yet.

Edit to bring it back on topic: it's really weird how the Biden's have been connected with Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs for years now. I might be so bold to assume literally none of this would've happened if this shitstain family wasn't in power.

Joe is good friends with a Ukrainian, John Hynansky.
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/biden-delaware-way-graft/

 

[MrJokerRager]

Russian opposition leader Mikhail Khordorkovsky recorded a video message to the Russians
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Micheal Malice put it best that the Russians love being ruled by assholes.

I don't disagree with this man's sentiment but looking at Russian histroy, it has always been ruled asshole after asshole.

And the weak assholes got booted out for being successfully portrayed as cucks by the stronger ones.

Russia doesn't have the same kind of democratic heritage that the United States has and something that I get tired about hearing from neocons and neolibs and other naieve bleeding hearts that democracy for every nation in the world is a must have for them.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

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Kiev, minutes ago.

Bright future ahead...

 

[Richardface]

Odds are pretty good that Russia is going to move into Moldova over the next 72 hours and link up with the 'peacekeepers' in Transnistria. Expect the EU position to intensify substantially when that happens.

Why the fuck would they even want moldova? Is there gas there?

 

[Diet Purple Pepsi]

Save the Children is legit, otherwise my money would have stayed in my pocket.

I care about these kids since I'm a human being, a father, and a grandfather. Sending a few bucks is the least I can do.

Sent a donation there and remembered to set my BAT auto-contribute for our Dear Leader.

 

[Richardface]

Micheal Malice put it best that the Russians love being ruled by assholes.

I don't disagree with this man's sentiment but looking at Russian histroy, it has always been ruled asshole after asshole.

And the weak assholes got booted out for being successfully portrayed as cucks by the stronger ones.

Russia doesn't have the same kind of democratic heritage that the United States has and something that I get tired about hearing from neocons and neolibs and other naieve bleeding hearts that democracy for every nation in the world is a must have for them.

If I can upgrade your reference, Solzhenitsyn said the Russian people are "a rabble in search of a tyrant"

 

[Sammich]

Youtubers somehow combine all the worst traits of lying journalists, know-nothing celebrities, and ivory-tower academics.

And that's just sargon and tim pool! some of these youtubers are really bad people.!!

 

[Joe Swanson]

If it does we all know how mainline Twitter, Reddit, etc. will react, more coping and more seething, but I'm curious how the Pro-Russians will react, most have been using the War in Donbass as justification for invading Ukraine, so I'm curious how they will react if Moldova ends up invaded too.

Asides from propping up Transnistia, the only thing I could think of is to "curtail" the influence of the EU

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

I know people have joked about "Russia didn't take Ukraine in 2 days that mean Putin sharted and pissed himself!!!!!!" but how long can Russia realistically sustain the invasion without pissing and shitting and cumming?

Given their natural resources and the amount of troops they can pour in, longer than Ukraine, and thats all that matters to Putin