Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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The larger reason why this is taken more seriously is due to the fact we actually have 2 opposing sides in this conflict. Remember in Afghanistan pro Taliban outlets were exclusively broadcasting in Arabic or Pashto. This time the western propaganda machine is dealing with another propaganda machine that is at the same caliber as themselves.
I think there's more users directly affected by this on both sides than during the Taliband shitshow, which just increases the overall concentration of salt.
 
@Null's position on this is retarded. While I get his attempt to be neutralfag, he clearly overlooked some things:
1. Russia launched an unwarranted invasion
2. A blitzcrieg nonetheless
3. The Russian Ukrainian narrative is used as a justification to capture territory
4. The Russian propaganda machine is overblating this issue and fabricating facts/events to further this narrative
I took no position and if you saw a pro- or anti- stance for Russia or Ukraine it's entirely in your own imagination and you're arguing against your own imagination.

What I actually said is that I see this as more than a war between Russia and Ukraine. It's the most significant instance of military action without the assent of the the UN since its formation, and represents a struggle for the right to war itself. Without a right to wage war, a country isn't really sovereign. Do sovereign countries besides the United States exist today? The question is answered by Russia now.

If they fold because of economic hardships, then no. Only the United States is sovereign and war is only conducted with the permission of the United States.

If Russia succeeds, and particularly if an Eastern Bloc emerges to challenge the United States's global hegemony of finance, then Globohomo has lost a significant amount of power (or the pursuit of world peace has been set back between 30 ~ 80 years, depending on your perspective).

That's my take. My position is anti-US because I have been mistreated by the US hegemony over finance. It is not pro-Russia.


Now please, kill yourself, retard nigger.
 
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Mi-8MTV shot down. The losses aren't over.
 
Prisoners of war deserve not to be humilated. Ivan from Russia or Vlad from Ukraine are following orders given by their superiors. There's a reason why the rules of war are so gentle towards POWs compared to their commanders:
Shit happens on both sides. Its a fucking war not some fucking zero bullying policy like your in grade school.
 
No it doesn't go for NATO too, why can't you people understand that we get to do what we want, how many times do I have to explain this. Globohomo always wins and your a retard if you think Russia or the chinks can stop it without blowing everyone to smithereens with nukes.
That must be why the US is having its histrionic eunuchs screeching on twitter while expressly ruling out military action every other day.
 
No it doesn't go for NATO too, why can't you people understand that we get to do what we want, how many times do I have to explain this. Globohomo always wins and your a retard if you think Russia or the chinks can stop it without blowing everyone to smithereens with nukes.

I am fine with an increased risk of cancer if it gets Schlomo out of power.

Bring back the bomb.
 
I took no position and if you saw a pro- or anti- stance for Russia or Ukraine it's entirely in your own imagination and you're arguing against your own imagination.

What I actually said is that I see this as more than a war between Russia and Ukraine. It's the most significant instance of military action without the assent of the the UN since its formation, and represents a struggle for the right to war itself. Without a right to wage war, a country isn't really sovereign. Do sovereign countries besides the United States exist today? The question is answered by Russia now.

If they fold because of economic hardships, then no. Only the United States is sovereign and war is only conducted with the permission of the United States.

If Russia succeeds, and particularly if an Eastern Bloc emerges to challenge the United States's global hegemony of finance, then Globohomo has lost a significant amount of power (or the pursuit of world peace has been set back between 30 ~ 80 years, depending on your perspective).

That's my take. My position is anti-US because I have been mistreated by the US hegemony over finance. It is not pro-Russia.


Now please, kill yourself, retard nigger.
Please fix the networking issue, it's super annoying.
 
Just spitballin' and speculatin' -

What if provoking Russia to war was the point?

The US war propaganda machine was spinning up in 2016 to go to war in Syria, and it was pretty obvious that fighting Russia there was going to be part of the fun. That was cut short by Trump's election, which was treated as a catastrophe by the US government. The government then accelerated anti-Russian propaganda, accusing them of everything from power outages to having subverted the Office of the President itself. After failing to have the President removed for treason due to the laughably bad quality of their frame-up job, they later tried to have him removed again for exposing corruption in Ukraine.

The same officials involved in all of this have been behind what, to me, looks like bewilderingly stupid diplomacy in Ukraine. But the reality is, these people have been stoking conflict with Russia since at least 2014. Given how fast all these sanctions spun up, maybe cutting Russia out of their global cool kids' club is a much older goal, and they've been probing around for an opportunity to make doing so politically popular. Washington didn't just sanction Russia; they organized a total excision of Russians from participation in anything we have the slightest bit of control over. As we see, ordinary Americans are taking a hit. Our businesses are being disrupted, oil and gas are going up, and we're generally being made somewhat worse off. So they needed political capital for this, and what better than an "unprovoked" invasion of a "democracy" by a country that "interfered in our 2016 election?"

I don't really know why this would be their goal, but maybe this is what they wanted.
This would explain in one fell swoop six years of DNC propaganda that seemed to come out of nowhere and made no sense. Holy shit.
 
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