Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Cybertonia]

So, another slap on the wrist plus a rose, and Chris is free to rape again.

I've said this before in this thread already, but in what world is spending almost a year in jail a slap on the wrist?

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I've said this before in this thread already, but in what world is spending almost a year in jail a slap on the wrist?

That's like a sentence for selling coke. Chris should have been flogged publically for 2 years and returned to prison at night. Mandatory sex offender status.

 

[I swear she's 18]

That's like a sentence for selling coke. Chris should have been flogged publically for 2 years and returned to prison at night. Mandatory sex offender status.

I say we should have Chris bear her cross and go to cavalry. Be nailed to the cross and placed a thorn crown upon her head and crucified. If she thirst we could have a sponge filled with fanta and if need be pierce her side . So that they would not be able to support their diaphragm and allow him her to ascend to the heavens quickly.

Edit: Rip biblical analogy

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I say we should have Chris bear his cross and go to cavalry. Be nailed to the cross and placed a thorn crown upon her head and crucified. If she thirst we could have a sponge filled with fanta and if need be pierce her side . So that they would not be able to support their diaphragm and allow him to ascend to the heavens quickly.

Better idea. Tell the world he's a sex offender and send him to russia.

 

[Cybertonia]

That's like a sentence for selling coke. Chris should have been flogged publically for 2 years and returned to prison at night. Mandatory sex offender status.

I gotta disagree. What he did wasn't to a stranger, it was to someone who may have been a willing participant. It's just garden variety gross inbred hick shit, probably happens every single day in a redneck shithole like central virginia. He spent a year in the can for it, he has no money, his family hates him, the only people who write to him are w33ns looking for stale cookie crumbs of internet clout, and he's gonna get out to what is pretty much at this point guaranteed homelessness. I'd say he's gotten his shit pretty thoroughly fucked up from all this.

 

[Skitterways]

Thanks to my role as Cwcki janny, someone PM'ed on Discord claiming to work for an EMS in central Virginia managed to look into Chris's record and reveal some info without violating HIPAA. That person claimed that Chris was moved via ambulance with police escort and a staff ready to administer sedatives if required, though the latter is nothing out of the ordinary according to them. The location as also manually entered, as the record would normally have a predetermined set of destinations.

Spoiler: Proof of the conversation to show I am not bullshitting

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I hope the experts here can explain that this means.

Transferring a person via ambulance from a jail to a psych facility isn't unusual. A police escort is highly suspect. Most police forces don't have the staff to do this, it's really not needed, and truthfully Chris doesn't warrant a police escort of any kind. Usually the jail or if it's an acute care psych facility will pre-medicate the person to be transported. The medics will secure the person to be transported in 4 point restraints to the stretcher. (Think: thick, padded, locked, leather hand and ankle cuffs.) Then it's load and go to the state or long term psych facility.

"And a staff ready to administer sedatives if required" = lol no. They pre-medicate so this isn't needed. A medic would need a MD's order via closed radio to administer sedatives en-route. It's just not part of their standard standing orders like the ones they use in a cardiac arrest. A nurse would need a MD's order via closed radio to administer sedatives too. It's so much easier to sedate them before the trip.

"The location as also manually entered, as the record would normally have a predetermined set of destinations." What? The jail calls a private ambulance company (the local municipal ones are busy saving the lives of the locals) and the transport is arranged. Nothing is posted via open radio, scanner, or the jail transport records because of HIPAA. If this person is part of the transport team they have totally violated HIPAA.

"I hope the experts here can explain that this means." It's a fantasy scenario, that's my explanation as someone who worked in that field. Great for Hollywood and Hannibal Lecter, but not real life. Real life is much more mundane.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

No one in medicine would use the term "Narcotic Sedative". All the typical sedatives one could give in a non-medical setting, even the powerful ones, are non-narcotic. No one uses a narcotic for sedation unless it's for a procedure or a surgery in an actual medical setting. Using sedation like that outside of a medical setting would be way too high risk. Also, medical people never say "Narcotic" any longer, they say "Opiate". This has been the norm for a very long time.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

That's like a sentence for selling coke. Chris should have been flogged publically for 2 years and returned to prison at night. Mandatory sex offender status.

Nevertheless, the statute allows for anywhere from no jail time at all, up to 10 years in prison. It's to give the court flexibility. Mandatory minimum sentences and simple containment as a solution have been a horrible blow to the economy to a degree that no other country in the world faces (while some tinpot countries like Turkmenistan come close, they get away with it via human rights abuses lowering the cost, or like China where they just harvest the organs to bring costs down and keep down the prison population).

Also, while flogging *can* be effective (Singapore shows this), it has to be brief and in response to the crime. If you torture someone for years, it loses its effectiveness because at that point you just wind up with a psychologically broken person who has learned nothing except how to endure torture.

And since you're comparing it to selling coke, that brings up the question of why we even take that approach to drug control in the first place.

 

[AnOminous]

Chris uses over affectionate terms with his mom, but he uses them on everybody claiming that actresses in old-timey movies used "darling" without a romantic connotation

I would bet he actually got that from a pony.

No one in medicine would use the term "Narcotic Sedative". All the typical sedatives one could give in a non-medical setting, even the powerful ones, are non-narcotic.

This wild tale is essentially of zero informational value. It mainly consists of things that might even actually be accurate even if whoever said them was just speculating. There's no particular reason to believe any of it though. The fact is we really don't know what's up with Chris right now.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Chris uses over affectionate terms with his mom, but he uses them on everybody claiming that actresses in old-timey movies used "darling" without a romantic connotation

While i agree with all the other points, this one didn't really fly, as he only used those terms with women he was being creepy with. I mean I suppose you could explain that in that he only uses the terms with women he was friendly with, and Chris wanted to fuck every woman he was friendly with, and we just assumed Barb would be an exception.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

I hope the experts here can explain that this means.

it means nobody you talk to knows WTF HIPAA is.
it's cool though. still gives us something to chew on.

edit : typo

 

[Pointless Sperg]

it means nobody you talk to knows WTF HIPPA is.
it's cool though. still gives us something to chew on.

I mean, for one thing, it's "HIPAA".

 

[AnOminous]

I mean, for one thing, it's "HIPAA".

And for another it applies to medical personnel in the performance of their duties (which this larp dude would be if he were telling the truth which I deeply suspect he is not). Medical examinations for the purpose of litigation are not done with an expectation of privacy (other than any sealing or gag orders or other such judicial protections).

In general, if you make your medical condition an element of the case, you're opening the door to an examination by the opposing side.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Medical examinations for the purpose of litigation are not done with an expectation of privacy (other than any sealing or gag orders or other such judicial protections).

In general, if you make your medical condition an element of the case, you're opening the door to an examination by the opposing side.

As I understand it, HIPAA still prevents the providers from releasing the information to unauthorized people, even if they do have to release it to the court (and corrections officers). The court can then release it to the public, and the court can choose to keep it private -- especially in J&DR court, where they can keep the entire hearing closed so you can't even infer what's in the record from the arguments.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

I mean, for one thing, it's "HIPAA".

lol i meant to do that to make some kinda point somehow?
t/y muh hippa !

I'm not saying the signs weren't there, they were. However, they didn't exist in a vacuum,

they absolutely did exist in a vacuum, chris always thinks he is the exception to every rule. he never does anything wrong it's everyone misunderstanding what he did.

 

[LiveFromNS]

They realistically cant trace that to anyone usig just a discord, more shit will get leaked, its inevitable, Im sure theres kiwis on the inside now.

True on tracing back to discord user, but if privacy stuff related to accessing patient info is done same as it is in Canada, they could audit the records to see who had access and if they had a legitimate reason to be accessing them. I was involved (on the legal end) in not 1, not 2 but 3 privacy breaches of medical records, In all cases, the breaches were discovered through an audit of the employee's access to the computer systems. One woman was passing time at her hospital job by looking at the medical records of all her friends and neighbors! Whatever the case, any new info is good, hopefully no one who brings any such relevant info concerning Chris' situation to light gets canned for it.

EMS radio in the area is indeed archived, but you need to pay for an account to listen to it. Here's the relevant page:

https://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/2886

(CVRJ is in Orange County)

I have an account and can access the audio archives. Date and time (if that is known) of the transfer would be appreciated. They save the audio in 30 minute blocks and a lot of these files just end up being blank air. But what I can do is download the mp3s and load them in Audacity to see the waveforms so I can quickly locate when there are transmissions. Happy to do this to see if there is anything concerning the transfer. I need the date of transfer for sure, time would be a bonus. EDIT-Ok, It seems it was Feb 28 at 11;14am from the OP screen that he was transferred. So, I will start at noon on 28th and work my way backward. It could be he was transferred on Friday before ort over the weekend too perhaps?

Transferring a person via ambulance from a jail to a psych facility isn't unusual. A police escort is highly suspect.

I like to think that Chris flipped his shit big time, and they had to call the cops cause he was in full fueled mega-tard rage and started throwing out the curse yeas and calling for Sonichu, Batman, Powerpuff Girls and a whole host of other cartoon characters to come save him! The Police, being diligent, thought they better do an escort to ward off the cartoons! LOL

But yeah, unless this is protocol there, I wouldn't think they'd waste resources to basically follow an ambulance. Not like Chris was in for violent crimes/flight risk etc.

I mean look at it this way. Say you were in that situation and, while you had your own problems mentally, you weren't prone to go into defensive hedgehog mode or tard rage like Chris has done many times. So, they tell you that you will be getting a transfer to another facility and you are like yep, ok, let's go. Well you'd think that as you didn't act up or have any problem with being moved, then the people at the jail wouldn't necessarily think they need cops to follow along for protection/assistance with the transport.

But Chris, well we know what he has done in the past when it comes to confrontations where he doesn't want to do what he is told and, coupled with (I am pretty sure someone mentioned this/he said it in a letter) he was expecting to be going home shortly before this transfer happened, I do tend to think he was not a willing passenger in this transfer.

If indeed that is the case, and he lost it and cops had to be brought in to deal with Chris, then if the police radio is also available on Broadcastify I can listen to that audio too as there may have been a call to the jail to assist staff with transferring an inmate who thinks he can teleport to another dimension.

As I said, if someone can save me from tracking down the date this move happened and let me know, I will review audio and post results after I have done so.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

I wasn't asking if it was going to trial, that already was discussed at length here over the past months so I know that won't be happening. The question was just under what circumstances can the public request documents that are considered evidence for this case.

Unless a trial occurs, there is no 'evidence'. Unless something really unexpected occurs, there will be no trial.
For something like this, as far as I know, the material in his file will not be released, other than what is in the public record. In this case, what will be in the public record is the disposition of the case.
The psych reports are in his file, but they are locked. Anyone not directly connected with his case (law enforcement, attorneys and their staff, court staff, his doctors and social workers/probation officers) will have no legitimate reason to access them.
The only way these things would be "leaked" is if someone breaks the law. I seriously doubt that anyone connected with the case would think it was worth their job/benefits/retirement to simply satisfy someones' curiousity. Any news coverage of this will be limited to information available in the public record, or information which is already available, of which there is plenty.

 

[Ophelia]

They won't release Chris until he is either safe to rejoin society, or is able to fool them into thinking he is safe to rejoin society.

Or until he is deemed able to assist in his defense.

 

[idosometimes]

I doubt that the person meant a police officer was the escort. I suspect they mean a corrections officer, which would be normal during a transfer. They like to have an armed staff member or two to keep things safe. They learned their lesson after that Michael Myers incident.
The nature of the crime means that the only info anyone will get is out of Chris or Barb. Barb probably has no idea what happened. Poor demented thing cannot remember the best rogering of her life. Chris will tell all, if he is ever in a position to tell all, but he is an unreliable narrator for his own life story so it will be confusing and partly made up.

yeah but do ya think he'da done it without writing the easy fluff piece for the newspaper too?

i've always thought the bOrb were seeking to make chris run the TV talkshow circuit that always featured "idiot savants" back in the late late 70s to mid 80's. the earliest i remember was "That's Incredible!" they'd have a [r-person] on weekly and it was like...

I do not know the Chandlers, but I always took it as they refused to acknowledge that Chris was special in that way. I think they did not want to admit it. They kept him out of classes that would have helped him and changed nothing. He would have gone in an [r-person] and come out an [r-person], though maybe they would have given him some special award for best art by a mongoloid, waterhead, or latinx.

Chris was protected from the world and ended up being a goon with no ability to socialize. He is a 3/10 in looks so he never found a heartsweet. Plus he is an [r-person]. No one wants to marry an [r-person].

 

[AnOminous]

Unless a trial occurs, there is no 'evidence'.

Even before trial, there can be evidentiary issues. For instance, people often argue about jurisdiction immediately, and conduct limited discovery solely related to jurisdiction, and the judge reaches a legal decision on that issue.