Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

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LiveFromNS said:
EDIT-Ok, It seems it was Feb 28 at 11;14am from the OP screen that he was transferred. So, I will start at noon on 28th and work my way backward. It could be he was transferred on Friday before ort over the weekend too perhaps?
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Thank you for your service. We don't know when the transfer happened exactly, as the VINElink entry could be when it actually happened, or just when the transfer was entered into the system. When listening, don't listen for "Christine Chandler" as they won't say the name. Do listen for the name or address of the jail. (13021 James Madison Hwy, Orange, VA)

You can also listen for the address of Western State Hospital (103 Valley Center Dr, Staunton, VA)

LiveFromNS said:
If indeed that is the case, and he lost it and cops had to be brought in to deal with Chris, then if the police radio is also available on Broadcastify I can listen to that audio too as there may have been a call to the jail to assist staff with transferring an inmate who thinks he can teleport to another dimension.
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Orange County Sheriff, and Greene County Sheriff (who would be responsible for Chris) are unfortunately not on Broadcastify. Just Fire/EMS. Virginia State Police Division 3 (which covers Staunton/Augusta and Greene, but not Orange) are on Broadcastify but they are probably not involved. Orange is in Division 2 but I can't find them on Broadcastify.

Staunton (the independent city) has its police department on Broadcastify. Staunton Fire/EMS is not on Broadcastify, but Fire/EMS seems to also be handled by Augusta County, and that is also on Broadcastify.

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Even before trial, there can be evidentiary issues. For instance, people often argue about jurisdiction immediately, and conduct limited discovery solely related to jurisdiction, and the judge reaches a legal decision on that issue.
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Yup but if it's in a closed hearing with no public record, we don't get to see it.
 
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jenstark101 said:
First, they ask you to sign forms. Then they may offer a drink or sandwich while they do various mental health checks through conversations and questionnaires. They'll usually be friendly and sometimes with a smile.

At some point you get nude for a very short time, during which a nurse checks for any signs of self-harm. This is the only purpose of the search. Then they give you, usually blue, often misfitting paper-like shirts and pants. No cavity searches. Then they give you oral meds according to any medical notes you have in any medical forms or databases, or whatnot. Then you go to a group session or hang out with patients.

You can request your normal street clothing and wear it the next day, and for the duration of your stay
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well, they can possibly do the cavity search if a person is coming to psych from jail or prison, to make sure they are not smuggling anything, like drugs or kites, but the policies and situation varies case by case and state by state.
 
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Skitterways said:
Transferring a person via ambulance from a jail to a psych facility isn't unusual. A police escort is highly suspect. Most police forces don't have the staff to do this, it's really not needed, and truthfully Chris doesn't warrant a police escort of any kind. Usually the jail or if it's an acute care psych facility will pre-medicate the person to be transported. The medics will secure the person to be transported in 4 point restraints to the stretcher. (Think: thick, padded, locked, leather hand and ankle cuffs.) Then it's load and go to the state or long term psych facility.

"And a staff ready to administer sedatives if required" = lol no. They pre-medicate so this isn't needed. A medic would need a MD's order via closed radio to administer sedatives en-route. It's just not part of their standard standing orders like the ones they use in a cardiac arrest. A nurse would need a MD's order via closed radio to administer sedatives too. It's so much easier to sedate them before the trip.

"The location as also manually entered, as the record would normally have a predetermined set of destinations." What? The jail calls a private ambulance company (the local municipal ones are busy saving the lives of the locals) and the transport is arranged. Nothing is posted via open radio, scanner, or the jail transport records because of HIPAA. If this person is part of the transport team they have totally violated HIPAA.

"I hope the experts here can explain that this means." It's a fantasy scenario, that's my explanation as someone who worked in that field. Great for Hollywood and Hannibal Lecter, but not real life. Real life is much more mundane.
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did you work that field in the State for Lovers? because as far as i've been told by state officials and hospitals the police transport you, thats how they do it in the state SOP. Plus it doesn't matter if the police have better things to do, all these places are 24 hours, eventually some officer will come to pick you up, even if you have to wait literally hours, but yes being cuffed and transported isn't an unusual sight. even if you aren't a threat to anyone but yourself the police take you.

also its rural VA, they literally only catch speeders and DUIs, so they have all the time in the world to transport people, also while this might be new for the board, its not too unusual for police. especially in recent years, between the opiod epidemic, despair from current events, and people just wanting to an hero away from problems its common enough that the only thing really keeping it from being more normal is a lack of bed space.
 
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Kramer on the phone said:
did you work that field in the State for Lovers? because as far as i've been told by state officials and hospitals the police transport you, thats how they do it in the state SOP. Plus it doesn't matter if the police have better things to do, all these places are 24 hours, eventually some officer will come to pick you up, even if you have to wait literally hours, but yes being cuffed and transported isn't an unusual sight. even if you aren't a threat to anyone but yourself the police take you.

also its rural VA, they literally only catch speeders and DUIs, so they have all the time in the world to transport people, also while this might be new for the board, its not too unusual for police. especially in recent years, between the opiod epidemic, despair from current events, and people just wanting to an hero away from problems its common enough that the only thing really keeping it from being more normal is a lack of bed space.
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Every thread since Chris got arrested has been full of people who don't live in Virginia and have no background in law saying "achhkktuallly here's how it works" and saying the same retarded shit over and over again.

We almost need a "read the sticky" post react.
 
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Pointless Sperg said:
but you need to pay for an account to listen to it.
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Actually, you don't need a premium account to access the recordings. I just created an account and I can listen to any of them I want (don't know if there's a limit). In fact, you don't even need an account to access the recording files.

Sorry, just realized you need to be logged in to use these links. I'll update with direct links ot the mp3s tomorrow.
In the order that they appear on the webpage:
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646086358
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646084568
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646072038
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[URL unfurl="true"]https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646039818[/URL]
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646027288

edit: At 6:45 on the 3:13pm recording, there is a mention of a 13198 James Madison Highway (very close to the jail, also a doctor's office). I don't think it's what we're looking for, but just putting it out there if anyone wants to verify.
 
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️ronic said:
Actually, you don't need a premium account to access the recordings. I just created an account and I can listen to any of them I want (don't know if there's a limit). In fact, you don't even need an account to access the recording files.

In the order that they appear on the webpage:
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646086358
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646084568
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646072038
https://m.broadcastify.com/archives/downloadv2/30807-1646027288
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Links definitely bring me to a login screen, but maybe accessible with free account?
 
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Ser Ciappelletto said:
It’s weird to me they named an hospital for the British prince.
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Probably tried to make it sound classier.
I'mma real anime gurl said:
So Chris is gonna end up in a group home?
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That seems to be the consensus but the situation keeps flipping, we thought barb might still stick by him but even she has seemed to stop given how Chris acts in his letters. He's got nothing.
 
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Why the fuck is anyone giving any credit to what some friend of a friend said on discord?

That said, transferring Chris to a hospital in an ambulance is common procedure. I don't know why people think it's a big deal. It's just the hospital covering it's own ass. i mean what would happen if they used a taxi and Chris had a heart attack halfway there? A lot of paperwork would happen, that's what.


AnOminous said:
In general, if you make your medical condition an element of the case, you're opening the door to an examination by the opposing side.
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The opposing side still has to jump through the HIPAA hoops, and even then they, themselves, are not permitted to release whatever they find to the general public. I believe @Pointless Sperg mentioned the process has been streamlined somewhere for the courts, but there's still a process. They can't just waltz in and demand a patient's files.


Pointless Sperg said:
We don't know when the transfer happened exactly, as the VINElink entry could be when it actually happened, or just when the transfer was entered into the system.
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It would not have taken them a month to enter it in the system, though, which means the transfer likely didn't happen immediately after the hearing, which it would have had Chris done a complete chimpout in court.

I really suspect this was a planned transfer at the request of someone on the case. That was probably Heilberg, but it could have been Consolvo or even the judge presiding trying to make some sense out of the shit Chris mumbles:

Judge: Do you understand the nature of the plea deal being offered to you, Ms. Chandler?
Chris: mumble mumble CPU fairy mumble ponies mumble jesus mumble dimensional blah blah mumble
Judge: Did anyone catch that? What the hell is he saying?
Consolvo: Not a clue, your honor.
Heilberg: I think he said something about cheezits?
Judge: Well this is a waste of time. I guess we'd better give him six months to straighten him out. Somebody find out when the next bed comes available in the psych wing.
 
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Kramer on the phone said:
did you work that field in the State for Lovers?
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Short answer: Yes. I've worked in psych in Virginia and Pennsylvania for quite a few years.

This is what happens in 2 different types of situations.
A. Person is abled bodied and medical transport isn't deemed necessary. The correctional officers/ police would transport people with criminal charges, convictions, etc. to and from psych facilities all the time. Usually the person is handcuffed. The procedure itself is interesting. The CO/police arrive at a psych facility for pick up or drop off. They have to surrender their firearm at the facility and it is locked in a secure location. They then go with psych facility security and staff to fetch or drop off the person. In a private location shackles are applied or removed. Staff goes back to where the officer's firearm is secured and it is returned to them. Now does every facility follow this protocol? Probably not. Do many follow it for staff and patient safety: Yes.
B. A person is very sedated. This would be when medical transport would be called just on the off chance the person loses their airway during transport. But like I said before, the person would be strapped in 4 point restraints to the frame of the stretcher. They aren't going anywhere even if they "tard out" in the event the Haldol and benzos wear off. I've never seen COs ride along. I'm not saying it never happens but, I don't think Chris is such a special snowflake to warrant it.

Also you made a comment about the police probably have time dealing only with speeders and DUIs in rural areas for this type of trip. Actually the opposite is true. It's a rural area. Less people equals less police and less taxpayer dollars. I've lived in rural areas in both states that don't even have full time police and either have only a few part-timers or rely on the state police. Trust me, they have much more important things to do.
 
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Bonktrash said:
He was always a creep and a pervert who didn't understand boundaries, but incest and possible rape is a whole other level of fucked up. Maybe many of us were just overly optimistic in thinking that he was a relatively harmless pervert who wasn't going to move on to more serious offences. Obviously that was very mistaken.

Honestly we should probably have seen it coming after he became fully delusional, the view of him as a harmless creep might have held true for classic Chris, but modern Chris has none of the boundaries Classic Chris had, it was only a matter of time before Chris deluded himself into doing a crime.
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Personally I always thought he would end up in a nut House. Granted I did not think the whole incest thing would be the reason that came out of left field. I honestly thought he would go to court again for something stupid like macing somebody or attacking somebody out of convention with that baseball bat he brought with him for protection. I figured one of these days he would do something stupid and his autism card would no longer work in the court system especially if it happened at a convention or something in a different state. Eventually with him having a clear escalation and criminal activity and mental stability I knew it was a matter of time before he would get arrested and then sent to a mental evaluation. I mean I said it before and I'll say it again the guy stood outside McDonald's with an attraction sign that's not normal behavior even then. If this was 1950 and he did that he would have already been on the funny farm. Even during the liquid Chris saga I was saying he would One Day end up in The nut House.

I know some people here are saying that they never thought he would but come on guys it's been obvious especially within the last couple years. You can't look at a video of Chris from let's say 5 years ago and say that he has a completely mentally well-balanced individual.
 
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Pointless Sperg said:
While i agree with all the other points, this one didn't really fly, as he only used those terms with women he was being creepy with. I mean I suppose you could explain that in that he only uses the terms with women he was friendly with, and Chris wanted to fuck every woman he was friendly with, and we just assumed Barb would be an exception.
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Didn't he use it with random guys at the conventions too?
 
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In regards to the Prince William Hospital comments: Prince William Hospital is in Prince William County, Virginia. The county/area was named in 1731 when Virginia was still a British colony. A lot of things here are named after areas or people in Great Britain or Native American tribes.

My favorite is Fauquier County founded in 1759. Pronounced like a slightly fancy version of f*cker. Best part is the guy it's named after, Francis Fauquier, won the land in a poker game as the story is told today.
 
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JULAY said:
He didn't start the over-the-top Jesus stuff until the only source of media that he had access to was a Bible. Heilberg had nothing to do with it.
Chris has always been a media sponge, absorbing and then autistically regurgitating whatever media he's been most recently exposed to, and in this case, since all he had access to was a Bible, he decided that he must be Jesus, since Jesus was unjustly persecuted and he feels that he's being unjustly persecuted as well.

After all, by raping, er, "soul-bonding" with Barb, he was just "healing her" like Jesus did the lepers and such, etc.
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Did everyone forget that Chris spent the first 30-35 years of his life as a deranged Jesus freak? It's not like the Bible was new to him in any way. Yeah, Chris is a media sponge, but I'm certain he got more Jesus material when he was regularly attending church with his parents for decades. There's probably a Bible in his cell that he's read a grand total of five pages of.
 
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JFKdestroyer said:
I have an account on there, but the recordings from that stream are really awful. The recording only captured one dispatch to a nursing home and two brief, garbled, incomplete transmissions during the morning of 2/28. If we can nail down when he was moved I can look again, but given the quality on these, I'm not going to expect to find much.
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Thanks @Pointless Sperg for the info/tips.

Agreed on the recordings. As it is a dispatch channel and not a "talk" channel, there really is only the dispatcher giving out very minimal call details. There may be the odd acknowledgment back from the responding unit, but that is about it. So, even if we find a call to the jail, I doubt it will provide any detailed info like a prisoner is trying to walk through a wall to go to another planet etc. It will be basically the unit being assigned call number, the address and brief nature of call, "fire", "assist transport", "MVA" etc.

That's weird on the ability to access the archives. It always used to be that you needed a premium account to access the archives, but you could listen to live radio for free.

In any event, I have listened to Feb 28 up to 12:30pm and listened to all Sunday, Feb 27 audio. Nothing. If anyone wants to continue on, start at 11:56pm to 12:26am for Sat Feb 26 and work down that list and then go to Friday. Sunday and Monday to noon has been reviewed by me and no calls to the jail that I could make out.
 
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LiveFromNS said:
Thanks @Pointless Sperg for the info/tips.

Agreed on the recordings. As it is a dispatch channel and not a "talk" channel, there really is only the dispatcher giving out very minimal call details. There may be the odd acknowledgment back from the responding unit, but that is about it. So, even if we find a call to the jail, I doubt it will provide any detailed info like a prisoner is trying to walk through a wall to go to another planet etc. It will be basically the unit being assigned call number, the address and brief nature of call, "fire", "assist transport", "MVA" etc.

That's weird on the ability to access the archives. It always used to be that you needed a premium account to access the archives, but you could listen to live radio for free.

In any event, I have listened to Feb 28 up to 12:30pm and listened to all Sunday, Feb 27 audio. Nothing. If anyone wants to continue on, start at 11:56pm to 12:26am for Sat Feb 26 and work down that list and then go to Friday. Sunday and Monday to noon has been reviewed by me and no calls to the jail that I could make out.
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I think the value is just in verifying a portion of the Discord messenger's claims. It's already pretty shaky if taken literally, but there's enough wiggle room that it could be a real story passed through the usual campfire-telephone distortions. I'm inclined to consider it just a ween writing fiction unless we can cross reference it with some other source like the dispatch. All we need is an ambulance sent to the jail at about the right time.
 
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A-№1 said:
Judge: Do you understand the nature of the plea deal being offered to you, Ms. Chandler?
Chris: mumble mumble CPU fairy mumble ponies mumble jesus mumble dimensional blah blah mumble
Judge: Did anyone catch that? What the hell is he saying?
Consolvo: Not a clue, your honor.
Heilberg: I think he said something about cheezits?
Judge: Well this is a waste of time. I guess we'd better give him six months to straighten him out. Somebody find out when the next bed comes available in the psych wing.
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Chris was so certain he was getting out. I really wonder if that was just magical thinking or if there really was a deal to get him out after only 6 months, but Chris assumed he could just go back to 14BC and the deal got scuttled when he found out he couldn't.

Unless some unknown ween writing him is what planted the idea in his head.
 
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