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I binge watched Infinity Train yesterday and now I'm sad to learn the show was cancelled because it wasn't kid friendly enough. I thought the characters and the mythology were interesting and was curious about where it was headed. Now we'll never know because the showrunner doesn't have any rights to the cartoon and can't legally continue it even as a comic book.
 
I binge watched Infinity Train yesterday and now I'm sad to learn the show was cancelled because it wasn't kid friendly enough. I thought the characters and the mythology were interesting and was curious about where it was headed. Now we'll never know because the showrunner doesn't have any rights to the cartoon and can't legally continue it even as a comic book.
They also short-changed the staff by advertising each "book" as one season when in reality there were all part of the initial batch. This sort of thing is all too common in animation these days.
 
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They also short-changed the staff by advertising each "book" as one season when in reality there were all part of the initial batch. This sort of thing is all too common in animation these days.
Netflix is doing the same thing with The Cuphead Show, apparently:
TL;DW: Apparently "Season 2" is actually the second half of Season 1 to avoid paying high salaries for the animators and writers.
 
Netflix is doing the same thing with The Cuphead Show, apparently:
TL;DW: Apparently "Season 2" is actually the second half of Season 1 to avoid paying high salaries for the animators and writers.
How does artificially splitting a season into two parts screw over the animators and writers? I assume they’re still doing the same amount of work overall, except it’s in one sitting instead of being re-contracted for the second season.
 
How does artificially splitting a season into two parts screw over the animators and writers? I assume they’re still doing the same amount of work overall, except it’s in one sitting instead of being re-contracted for the second season.
Apparently, Netflix ordered one batch of episodes to avoid giving said animators and writers pay raises and benefits, then split it in half and advertised it as a separate season to make it seem like more than it actually is:
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Apparently, Netflix ordered one batch of episodes to avoid giving said animators and writers pay raises and benefits, then split it in half and advertised it as a separate season to make it seem like more than it actually is:
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Netflix has been doing this with all their animated series. The same was done to Kid Cosmic.
 
Netflix has been doing this with all their animated series. The same was done to Kid Cosmic.
If that's so, my question is, why did nobody make as big of a stink about it then? Not even with nu She-Ra, which had five "seasons". My guess is they're being opportunistic grifters, as always. Netflix has been doing it for God knows how long, but NOW, suddenly it's a big issue? Because of a fucking hashtag? I dunno, I'm getting shades of #MeToo from this #NewDeal4Animation shit. And we all know how well the former turned out.....
 
Apparently, Netflix ordered one batch of episodes to avoid giving said animators and writers pay raises and benefits, then split it in half and advertised it as a separate season to make it seem like more than it actually is:
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That's been going on for atleast a decade, Breaking Bad did the same thing for its final season


Adventure Time did start off as good but then gradually transformed into a soyboy SJW show. Yes, I agree, the later seasons did embody everything wrong with modern cartoons which unfortunately led to the creation of Steven Universe. I cringed at a lot of neckbeards and soyboys on reddit that were crying over the half assed series finale of Adventure Time. They attacked me after I made a valid critism of the poorly executed finale too, instead of respecting my opinion and calmly disagreeing like adults. I also didn't bother watching Distant Lands because of the fan service, like Bonnie and Marceline become a lesbian couple. I'm not homophobic, I just hate how the CalArts shows keep shoving the agenda down people's throats and they're not doing a good job making it subtle.
I still stand by the fact that I'm happy it was picked up and I will still defend the original pilot that went viral in 2007. The first two seasons were great. The third was watchable but the drama was awful and I stopped watching after that.
I still admire the show but I fucking hate the legacy it left.
 
If that's so, my question is, why did nobody make as big of a stink about it then? Not even with nu She-Ra, which had five "seasons". My guess is they're being opportunistic grifters, as always. Netflix has been doing it for God knows how long, but NOW, suddenly it's a big issue? Because of a fucking hashtag? I dunno, I'm getting shades of #MeToo from this #NewDeal4Animation shit. And we all know how well the former turned out.....
Lot of people are wanting to speak up against shady shit in animation now that there's the opportunity to change something. A lot of it is true, and it goes back a long way.
 
Lot of people are wanting to speak up against shady shit in animation now that there's the opportunity to change something. A lot of it is true, and it goes back a long way.
I'm not saying that it isn't true. I'm saying "the opportunity to change something" has BEEN there since social media's inception, and yet, not until today, when this conveniently timed "movement" shows up outta absolutely nowhere, do people finally take advantage of said opportunity. Hard to think that there aren't ulterior motives here.
 
I found the original pilot for Spongebob. It's more or less the same as Help Wanted, just with a slightly different intro and the ending having a slightly different endcard (No United Plankton card, just a "created by Stephen Hillenberg" with a doodle of Spongebob underneath it)
 
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I'm not saying that it isn't true. I'm saying "the opportunity to change something" has BEEN there since social media's inception, and yet, not until today, when this conveniently timed "movement" shows up outta absolutely nowhere, do people finally take advantage of said opportunity. Hard to think that there aren't ulterior motives here.
It's been going on for a few months, and there wasn't much of an opportunity to change things until the union negotiations began. When you see an opportunity, you strike, and this is the moment.
 
Hopefully it won’t be co-opted for petty bullshit…oh who am I kidding?
^This is precisely what I was trying to convey with my earlier posts. Might've started with noble intentions, but much like #MeToo, this movement has all the makings for opportunistic grifters to co-opt it for minor shit. After all, "the road to hell is often paved with noble intentions."
 
Apparently, Netflix ordered one batch of episodes to avoid giving said animators and writers pay raises and benefits, then split it in half and advertised it as a separate season to make it seem like more than it actually is:
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It does seem a little bizarre that Cuphead is getting a second season so quickly. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m sure the people behind it love the game and we’re excited to make this, but the second season is supposed to come out in the next FOUR months?

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I might not know the animation industry as I thought I did, but this just seems rushed to me for some reason. Not even my favorite anime getting renewed quickly for a second and third season seems as suspicious, and that’s just a completely different story in of itself.
 
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Lot of people are wanting to speak up against shady shit in animation now that there's the opportunity to change something. A lot of it is true, and it goes back a long way.
Not parading grorious nipland here, but with everything that I've come across about how "Animeland doesn't treat their animators right" in the last few years in the news cycle, and this pile of corpses pour out of Burbank, the pot really wanted to call the kettle black and charred. For as much animators in Japan are paid in peanuts and work like Japanese beavers, they 1) have an industry that takes itself seriously, 2) their payment at leasts follows the word of the law, 3) they don't work on overly regulated, PRHR corporate commitee molested scumfuckery, and 4) they have already been going for grassroots and efforts to improve conditions and compensation for animators out there.

So uh, yeah, all of this shit should had been in place before projecting like an atheist sjw ultra leftoid cocksucker. Please excuse me, I have a glass house to take to with a sledgehammer.
 
Not parading grorious nipland here, but with everything that I've come across about how "Animeland doesn't treat their animators right" in the last few years in the news cycle, and this pile of corpses pour out of Burbank, the pot really wanted to call the kettle black and charred. For as much animators in Japan are paid in peanuts and work like Japanese beavers, they 1) have an industry that takes itself seriously, 2) their payment at leasts follows the word of the law, 3) they don't work on overly regulated, PRHR corporate commitee molested scumfuckery, and 4) they have already been going for grassroots and efforts to improve conditions and compensation for animators out there.

So uh, yeah, all of this shit should had been in place before projecting like an atheist sjw ultra leftoid cocksucker. Please excuse me, I have a glass house to take to with a sledgehammer.
Animation in general is taken more seriously over there. It's a cultural thing I guess.
 
Not parading grorious nipland here, but with everything that I've come across about how "Animeland doesn't treat their animators right" in the last few years in the news cycle, and this pile of corpses pour out of Burbank, the pot really wanted to call the kettle black and charred. For as much animators in Japan are paid in peanuts and work like Japanese beavers, they 1) have an industry that takes itself seriously, 2) their payment at leasts follows the word of the law, 3) they don't work on overly regulated, PRHR corporate commitee molested scumfuckery, and 4) they have already been going for grassroots and efforts to improve conditions and compensation for animators out there.

So uh, yeah, all of this shit should had been in place before projecting like an atheist sjw ultra leftoid cocksucker. Please excuse me, I have a glass house to take to with a sledgehammer.
Japan is still worse, though - the burnout is worse, the workload is worse... and there's no real way to fix a lot of the problems. Unions are not a thing there. The pay in America, at least, is better than what you get in Japan.
 
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