Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

[Screamer]

Ewan has already said in interviews about how it was being on set with him as Obi-Wan and Hayden as Anikan. So flashbacks are confirmed.

 

[Sneed F91]

So I thought what made Obi Wan interesting was that even though most of the Jedi died and he had all of the reasons to sulk in his own failure to train Anakin, he never did. He happily trained Luke and guided him on his Jedi path like a wise mentor should. He knew that Luke was gonna be the one to help save the galaxy but he didn't know how.

I don't know how I feel about him suddenly turning into a sad sack of bantha shit like Jake in TLJ. It doesn't fit Obi Wan like it didn't fit Luke. But I am not looking forward to the fans pretending that the show will have zero flaws because of the le epic Vader fight that shouldn't happen at all.

So, still shit and repetitious narratively but will have flashy fights. I guess that is a step up from Boba.

There hasn't been a decent lightsaber duel since Disney bought the franchise. I'm not holding my breath for the fights to not be a joke.

Ewan has already said in interviews about how it was being on set with him as Obi-Wan and Hayden as Anikan. So flashbacks are confirmed.

Depending on what happens in the flashbacks after the whole thing gets spoiled on the internet I might check them out on youtube. If they're actually faithful to the look and feel of the PT I'll be genuinely surprised.

 

[Screamer]

Does Obi-Wan know Vader is Anikan?

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

So I thought what made Obi Wan interesting was that even though most of the Jedi died and he had all of the reasons to sulk in his own failure to train Anakin, he never did. He happily trained Luke and guided him on his Jedi path like a wise mentor should. He knew that Luke was gonna be the one to help save the galaxy but he didn't know how.

I don't know how I feel about him suddenly turning into a sad sack of bantha shit like Jake in TLJ. It doesn't fit Obi Wan like it didn't fit Luke. But I am not looking forward to the fans pretending that the show will have zero flaws because of the le epic Vader fight that shouldn't happen at all.

All the show is doing is repeating the journey Obi-Wan already had but with some extra brooding sequences. He's already had his emotional climax with Anakin where he accepts the monster his apprentice has become and expresses his guilt for not stopping it. He's already accepted his mission and bound himself to watch over Luke on the genuine hope that it will lead to better times. Having him lose faith and backtrack so he can walk back to the same destination with a few minor pitstops doesn't add anything, it just cheapens any weight his and Vader's implied connection ever had (no, just because you can 'technically' use a loophole in the dialogue's wording to excuse any Vader and Kenobi interactions as not directly contradicting the OT doesn't mean shit).

 

[Adamska]

Reminder that what is written is not how it will be executed. Kennedy can't execute for shit.

I mean I know a lot of people will come in and either try to lie to themselves they didn't waste time watching Obi Wan or will sob that it sucks as they keep figuratively eating broken glass by still watching it. Because I guess wasting 44 minutes of life watching something from a dead-dead franchise is worth it even if you hate or feel braindead for most of it. Maybe the 20 seconds of something releases dopamine and overcomes the feeling of being inside a coffin for the rest of it, but that just sounds like a crackhead justifying the OD symptoms myself.

Fun fact: did you know that 44 minutes of your life is worth $11.16 based on human lives costing 10 million in an economic sense? Because that's how much you lose each episode of a dead and gay franchise you still choose to watch for no reason. Free actually is literally too much because of that.

 

[Sneed F91]

Reminder that what is written is not how it will be executed. Kennedy can't execute for shit.

I mean I know a lot of people will come in and either try to lie to themselves they didn't waste time watching Obi Wan or will sob that it sucks as they keep figuratively eating broken glass by still watching it. Because I guess wasting 44 minutes of life watching something from a dead-dead franchise is worth it even if you hate or feel braindead for most of it. Maybe the 20 seconds of something releases dopamine and overcomes the feeling of being inside a coffin for the rest of it, but that just sounds like a crackhead justifying the OD symptoms myself.

Fun fact: did you know that 44 minutes of your life is worth $11.16 based on human lives costing 10 million in an economic sense? Because that's how much you lose each episode of a dead and gay franchise you still choose to watch for no reason. Free actually is literally too much because of that.

You have to understand that these people spent a combined 7 hours and 20 minutes being given the figurative middle finger by Disney and Lucasfilm and then told to fuck off yet still went back for more right afterwards like nothing happened. Some of them watched the movies multiple times.

If you can't see what was wrong with the sequels you will never see what's wrong with the rest of what Disney puts out.

 

[Ghostse]

Reminder that 44 minutes per episode could be better spent doing literally anything else. Cheekily remarking about getting it free ignores that lifespan is currency too.

But that won't stop some of you retards consooming and sobbing as your eyes bleed once due to the quality efforts made by the eldritch nightmares they hired as writers.

I can save all the abused wife consoomers the time of writing their posts about consooming as well.

"I give it a C+. It was good to see this Person or Place I remember show up on screen but they really didn't really seem to understand the character or it was so brief they need not have really bothered except to get me to clap like a brain damaged and abused seal which I did. There were two or three other blink-and-you'll miss it moments too. All the previous points made in this thread discusing the leak were absolutely accurate, but I still watched it anyway. There was a 3 minute segment that was almost like actual star wars and that was amazing. I wish they had someone who cared about starwars make this, but I still watched the whole thing and will watch season two."

#obiwanpost

 

[Adamska]

You have to understand that these people spent a combined 7 hours and 20 minutes being given the figurative middle finger by Disney and Lucasfilm and then told to fuck off yet still went back for more right afterwards like nothing happened. Some of them watched the movies multiple times.
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If you can't see what was wrong with the sequels you will never see what's wrong with the rest of what Disney puts out.

Oh my god.

Imagine wasting $111.32 life dollars and justifying to yourself why you had to do that. Add compounding interest to all the tv slop you have no reason to watch too. At least some of the poor fuckers who watched TLJ and Plan IX had good excuses, like even more insane consoomers forcing them to show up.

Fuck man, just burn that shit on shit coins or some other scam. It'd have the same effect.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

So I thought what made Obi Wan interesting was that even though most of the Jedi died and he had all of the reasons to sulk in his own failure to train Anakin, he never did. He happily trained Luke and guided him on his Jedi path like a wise mentor should. He knew that Luke was gonna be the one to help save the galaxy but he didn't know how.

I don't know how I feel about him suddenly turning into a sad sack of bantha shit like Jake in TLJ. It doesn't fit Obi Wan like it didn't fit Luke. But I am not looking forward to the fans pretending that the show will have zero flaws because of the le epic Vader fight that shouldn't happen at all.

Based on the leaks, what he said doesn't match up with what he does. If what he said in the trailer is what he ends up telling the other Jedi, then I don't think he believes it himself. He just doesn't want him to get himself killed, or endanger Luke. If Obi-Wan's depressed about anything, it's that after 10 years he still hasn't been able to talk to Qui-Gon. Between that and being alone with your regrets, it seems more reasonable to see him in a difficult spot than it is to see Luke Jake abandon everyone.

I'm convinced that after TBoBF we'll be seeing more of how Luke turns into Jake, but so far, I've got some hope we won't see the same happen to Obi-Wan. That's assuming we don't have Reva as the strong black woman who berates the white man for being evil or a failure.

Does Obi-Wan know Vader is Anikan?

The leaks say Obi-Wan recognizes Anakin is inside the Darth Vader suit when he first sees it.

I'll be relieved and annoyed enough that the worst thing to come out of the show are the live-action Inquisitors and their lolcopter sabers. It's the most cartoon bullshit I've ever seen, and no amount of secondary source explanations after the fact can fix it:

Some versions of the lightsaber also contained a rotating wheel of sharp razor blades which could intimidate an enemy or be used as an alternative way of slicing through opponents. Ezra Bridger's hand was almost sliced off when the Eighth Brother used this feature.

It could also be used to fly, but only by Force-sensitives, combining micro repulsorlifts with the blades' spinning in a propeller-like motion to lift the wielder off the ground. This was often used as a method of escape, particularly from combat.

If you're strong enough in the Force to be a Inquisitor, why do you need a helicopter saber? Just do Force jumps, or dodge and run. Use Force speed, we haven't seen that since Phantom Menace. More importantly, that Wookiepedia page doesn't explain how the lightsaber blade can be separated from the hilt like that. It can't be that the blade energy is also running through the circular guards, because then you would think you can't break them so easily, at least not without some kind of explosion.

It occurs to me that the insane lightsaber suit used by Lord Nyax makes more sense than the spinning lightsabers.

Those are just lightsabers surgically implanted into a lobotomized cyborg Sith Lord. That's all you need to know, no micro-repulsorlifts or weird "Force-sensitives only" rule.

Here's some fanart of that btw.

 

[Creep3r]

Does Obi-Wan know Vader is Anikan?

As far as pre-Disney and the original Kenobi novel was concerned, Obi-Wan always suspected that Anakin was the infamous dark lord after hearing of the jedi slayer's sudden appearance in imperial broadcasts months after arriving on Tatooine. His visions of Darth Vader killing jedi to discover Obi-Wan's location made it pretty clear they were one and the same.

In Disney they'll just have it so he and Vader duel on Mustafar... again... to make him realize he's Anakin. All so it can trigger dopamine hits of nostalgia in Filonifags and PT fans by recreating a scene from the movie but more "epic" like they did with Rogue Juan to trick them into thinking that they're young again and thus create an artificial high.

All the show is doing is repeating the journey Obi-Wan already had but with some extra brooding sequences. He's already had his emotional climax with Anakin where he accepts the monster his apprentice has become and expresses his guilt for not stopping it. He's already accepted his mission and bound himself to watch over Luke on the genuine hope that it will lead to better times. Having him lose faith and backtrack so he can walk back to the same destination with a few minor pitstops doesn't add anything, it just cheapens any weight his and Vader's implied connection ever had (no, just because you can 'technically' use a loophole in the dialogue's wording to excuse any Vader and Kenobi interactions as not directly contradicting the OT doesn't mean shit).

Yep. It also undermines the emotional impact of their reunion in the OT and Obi-Wan's natural growth. As you said, its redundant backtracking because they want their new female jedi and inquisitor characters to serve as the new Rey and "save" the OT character who never needed saving because the only one needing to "save" him is Qui-Gon's spirit who is supposed to be teaching him how to transcend. Obi-Wan should be shown protecting Luke and helping locals, not brooding and being a miserable sack of failure for the sake of a plot convenience that was created solely for the new shitty disney ocs to exploit. And the whole Vader vs Obi-Wan fight is nothing but shameless Filoni-tier fanwank. They'll claim Filoni has no part in this, but the presence of his OCs, recurring motifs and the fact that he's basically the entire story group now alongside Porgcuck just cements his influence over it.

Despite this, people will keep having hope this shit will be in any way different despite disney proving time and time again that they have a consistent track record of failure that's overclouded by happy hormone-triggering memberberries.

Based on the leaks, what he said doesn't match up with what he does. If what he said in the trailer is what he ends up telling the other Jedi, then I don't think he believes it himself. He just doesn't want him to get himself killed, or endanger Luke. If Obi-Wan's depressed about anything, it's that after 10 years he still hasn't been able to talk to Qui-Gon. Between that and being alone with your regrets, it seems more reasonable to see him in a difficult spot than it is to see Luke Jake abandon everyone.

I'm convinced that after TBoBF we'll be seeing more of how Luke turns into Jake, but so far, I've got some hope we won't see the same happen to Obi-Wan. That's assuming we don't have Reva as the strong black woman who berates the white man for being evil or a failure.


The leaks say Obi-Wan recognizes Anakin is inside the Darth Vader suit when he first sees it.

I'll be relieved and annoyed enough that the worst thing to come out of the show are the live-action Inquisitors and their lolcopter sabers. It's the most cartoon bullshit I've ever seen, and no amount of secondary source explanations after the fact can fix it:



If you're strong enough in the Force to be a Inquisitor, why do you need a helicopter saber? Just do Force jumps, or dodge and run. Use Force speed, we haven't seen that since Phantom Menace. More importantly, that Wookiepedia page doesn't explain how the lightsaber blade can be separated from the hilt like that. It can't be that the blade energy is also running through the circular guards, because then you would think you can't break them so easily, at least not without some kind of explosion.

It occurs to me that the insane lightsaber suit used by Lord Nyax makes more sense than the spinning lightsabers.

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Those are just lightsabers surgically implanted into a lobotomized cyborg Sith Lord. That's all you need to know, no micro-repulsorlifts or weird "Force-sensitives only" rule.

Here's some fanart of that btw.

Coptersabers are another example how little thought goes into Filoni's works beyond simply getting what he wants regardless of rhyme or reason.

As for the saber armor, another misconception is that people assume those things are always turned on and that the guy is puncturing himself, while ignoring that he can turn them on or off at will and he's essentially a mindless berserker with an artificial mind. Of course it not surprising since everyone that bitches about Nyax doesn't even know what stories he's even from or the context behind why he's a cybernetic freak of nature now or the misconceptions that exist even in the sourcebook that art is from. Everything they know about him just comes from a poorly jumbled together wookieepedo page that ended up being featured because those wookieepedo faggots have zero standards.

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I can save all the abused wife consoomers the time of writing their posts about consooming as well.

"I give it a C+. It was good to see this Person or Place I remember show up on screen but they really didn't really seem to understand the character or it was so brief they need not have really bothered except to get me to clap like a brain damaged and abused seal which I did. There were two or three other blink-and-you'll miss it moments too. All the previous points made in this thread discusing the leak were absolutely accurate, but I still watched it anyway. There was a 3 minute segment that was almost like actual star wars and that was amazing. I wish they had someone who cared about starwars make this, but I still watched the whole thing and will watch season two."

Here's the short version.

"I was doubtful and I disliked some things, but then I saw the thing I remembered and then I cried! 3.5 stars out of 5!"

 

[Mississippi Motorboater]

 

[Ghostse]

Will not lie, the whole Hett plot is... superfluous, but it makes sense. I'd interested in seeing their struggle play out against a Settlers-vs-Indians farmers & sandpeople plot. And the concept is self-contained, doesn't thrust Obi-Wan back into Galactic society inviting him to hunted back to his hidey-hole by the entire imperial apparatus.
(Because its not like Anakin/Vader would blame Obi for...oh I dunno leaving him as a tripoplegic in painful firey agony with fucked up organs, nor would he blame Obi for turning padme against him necessitating her dying. That CERTAINLY wouldnt happen.
But its ok, because if there is one thing we know for utter certain, it is that Vader DEFINITELY doesn't single mindedly pursue anyone who has wronged him (or the empire) with laser-focused untiring tenacity, and he definitely doesn't continue until he can violent, bloody force-power retribution down on them, to the point of dedicating entire fleets to the task of locating them.)

otoh, Disney is making it, was going to fuck it up either way, so at least this stupid version had Hayden also get a paycheck. So whatevs max out those memberberries.

 

[Creep3r]

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[Poe-Shen Zcela]

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Yep. It also undermines the emotional impact of their reunion in the OT and Obi-Wan's natural growth. As you said, its redundant backtracking because they want their new female jedi and inquisitor characters to serve as the new Rey and "save" the OT character who never needed saving because the only one needing to "save" him is Qui-Gon's spirit who is supposed to be teaching him how to transcend. Obi-Wan should be shown protecting Luke and helping locals, not brooding and being a miserable sack of failure for the sake of a plot convenience that was created solely for the new shitty disney ocs to exploit. And the whole Vader vs Obi-Wan fight is nothing but shameless Filoni-tier fanwank. They'll claim Filoni has no part in this, but the presence of his OCs, recurring motifs and the fact that he's basically the entire story group now alongside Porgcuck just cements his influence over it.

Despite this, people will keep having hope this shit will be in any way different despite disney proving time and time again that they have a consistent track record of failure that's overclouded by happy hormone-triggering memberberries.

The only emotional impact I get from their reunion in the OT is when Luke witnesses Vader "killing" Ben, so I'm not sure where you're coming from there. Compare that to their last encounter in ROTS and it's almost unusual how casually Vader approaches his old master. The rest is supposing the worst case scenario for the show, which I think most of us who aren't casual or desperate fans are conditioned to expect. And Rogue One is boring even with the Vader scene. Gimme a show about the old Operation Skyhook missions.

Whether it's shit or not I'll watch it with family. At the end of the day it's just something to watch once a week, and I'm already sharing D+ with extended family. They all love The Mandalorian and are looking forward to Ahsoka. I'll watch it with them and either be pleasantly surprised or get the trainwreck(s) I expect. If I can't enjoy watching things get better I'll look forward to watching it all crash and burn.

 

[Adamska]

Imagine forcing yourself to waste 11 life dollars a session on watching shows you have to justify to yourself about watching because of spurious crackhead reasons. How embarrassing.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

I'm being genuine, and not forcing myself to do anything.

 

[Sneed F91]

Whether it's shit or not I'll watch it with family. At the end of the day it's just something to watch once a week, and I'm already sharing D+ with extended family. They all love The Mandalorian and are looking forward to Ahsoka. I'll watch it with them and either be pleasantly surprised or get the trainwreck(s) I expect. If I can't enjoy watching things get better I'll look forward to watching it all crash and burn.

You know, I remember a wise old sage named @Adamska predicting someone saying something like this once.

 

[Poe-Shen Zcela]

You know, I remember a wise old sage named @Adamska predicting someone saying something like this once.

Guilty, but at least now I'm just optimistic instead of a lunatic.

Or am I?

Spoiler: It's like Picasso in motion

 

[Creep3r]

Kennedy is being surprisingly open about how messy the production was and how horribly she and her team managed it while being seemingly oblivious to their own sabotage.

Also seems like more articles are popping up about the state of the hotel.

And they keep getting the worst advertisement ideas.

Yes kids, you too can get Chewbacca fucked in the ass by the ducktrooper corps!

 

[Godzilla@1989]

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