Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ I ain't afraid of no Ghost of Kiev

    Votes: 278 11.8%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

    Votes: 659 27.9%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 378 16.0%

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Basically, the things that Russia really wants from Ukraine are impossible to achieve through any means short of a pro-Russian coup or outright invasion. Therefore, Putin's actions are rational in achieving his goals.
I've also seen some users say it would have been better for Putin to wait until he had Germany by the balls alittle bit more so they can cripple the EU by proxy, but then we keep forgetting Putin is coming 70, he doesn't have another 5-10 years left in him to wait on that, especially if Ukarine would be arming up within that time.

Quite frank I happy it kicked off now while the last remains of boomers are in control, I don't really trust the generations after to properly handle any of this.
 
The Biden Administration is schizophrenic.
>hurr let's go for green energy but then fuck our own energy independence because long term planning is for faggots lmao
>hurr let's destroy plans to expand oil production and then take a diplomatically aggressive standing against the people who would be exporting to us
>hurr let's reverse all the progress in splitting away from China and simp for their concentration camps but then threaten them economically as though we have the manufacturing base of the cold war era

From what I've heard, cheap manufacturing has been moving away from China anyways as their middle class expands and their population demographics teeter dangerously towards having a huge surplus of old fucks instead of workers spenders and earners, but there's no reason to rush shit, especially when even a blind person can see this gas price shit having knock on effects for the cost of transportation, and everything, in the midst of an economic recession from coof shit.

I just look at what they do and scratch my head as to what the hell the overall plan is besides to cause economic distress, print money we don't have, and move wealth from the middle class and poor to the corporate.

Again I'm not an expert on anything at all, but to loop this back around to the Ukraine Invasion, this really isn't a wise time to try and swing our dicks around like nobody can touch us, and no time at all to start financially supporting a war.

I genuinely believe at this point that it's not schizophrenia or ignorance or bad decision making but willful wanton destruction of everything that made America and the West strong on all levels.

While education wasn't ever a strong suit, now it's just pathetic how bad it is. At best higher education for all but the most difficult and technical STEM subjects won't even land you a job, you're also competing with endless foreign experts ( from some countries who can afford to provide their whole population a university level education for free, imagine that. ) . At worst, 'education' is now a scam to fleece money out of people for bullshit, and there is no oversight whatsoever.
The emasculation of men and everything manly and as a result the pathological hatred of strength, and the glorification of weakness and (mental) illness, the complete replacement of traditional faith in god, faith in your fellow neighbour being replaced with veneration of money and every possible degeneracy under the sun.
My own family moved here due to the promises of individual freedoms, freedom of speech, expression, own guns, defend yourself, freedoms that not many places in the world have. Yet arguably over the past 20+ years they've been stripped away so hard, a Russian would probably be better off in his own mother country than moving here.
Demonstrably the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer, the average bloke's future prospects are very bleak in comparison to even a short generation ago, it's brutally clear that all the wealth is siphoned from public projects and wellbeing of your own citizens to the elite's own pockets and personal goals.

It's so bad, if you would have told me that the entire government has been bribed by the Chinese, to slowly destroy the country from within, I would believe it in a heartbeat. You don't become rich and powerful like that without being intelligent enough to navigate the world of sharks, there are no 'retards' pulling the strings, no matter how much you might want to believe it. I want to say 'the country's own elite are pillaging the said country', but considering just how many elites have dual citizenship, how they abhor every founding principle upon which the country was formed, they really aren't the country's elites at all, only in name. By their actions they're invaders with no country to call their own, every Bill Gates who brought us such gifts as common core, every Fauci that has insured we're more prone to illness, and every Biden who manages to shit out 2700 page long bills that spend trillions of fake, newly printed magic money out of thin air to enrich themselves and their friends abroad while all but ensuring, and accelerating, the at this point inevitable collapse of whatever financial system we're operating in.

I really worry what's going to happen once there is nothing left to loot, when our countries turn into an even bigger joke than they already are, and the citizens are left to their own devises. When even starting a business would become as prohibitive monetarily as running for politics is now, when self driving remote controllable electric cars you don't even own can be shut off or overriden to drive you to the nearby re-education camp for saying The Wrong Things on Meta, and when the average unskilled worker has very little to do as those jobs become even further automated by machines. The proto social credit system is already here in one way or another. Hell, after reading the newest report from UK's own government about the vaccines, those that got it had an almost ten times higher mortality rate than the unvaxxed. For all I know, the coof jabs are the first step to reduce the amount of useless people that no longer serve a purpose for the powerful. Probably not, but hell, it says a lot what kind of world I live in where my mind takes me to these places because it just sounds that plausible.
 
Not saying this isn't true, just saying that they picked a Jewed government over their own people and now they're going to pay the price for that. Loyalty to a nation that is loyal to you in kind is noble, loyalty to a nation that does not reciprocate loyalty is stupidity.
I understand this sentiment, but a shit government is just a blip in terms of history. If your ancestors have been living in a place for centuries and centuries it's understandable to want to fight for that tooth and nail.

If the Kurgan hypothesis is correct, then what is modern day Ukraine is the origin point of all people of slavic ancestry, roots grow very deep here and I can't imagine wanting to give up on the place because some corrupt jews are in charge at the moment.

I don't really know what they should or can do, but I understand why they want to fight even though it may seem crazy to outsiders who just see their corrupt government and think "why fight for these assholes?"
 
Every anti-putin poster here believes that Putin is just another Napoleon lll but worse.

An imitator that is living in the shadow of those that came before him and wants to restore past glories.

Maybe that is true but Putin's mimicking act of Napoleon lll is still not complete without his Sedan and most anti-putin people here think that this will be his Sedan, even if he doesn't get deposed, he will be looked at like as a laughing stock.
I might be biased considering my political convictions, but I would not put Putin in the same universe as Napoleon III. Louis Napoleon's shortcomings were largely only with his military prowess which were quite poor and this was exacerbated by his lineage and the hawkish attitude of the French public against Prussia. Napoleon III was still a man who innovated a great deal, generally wanted peace on the continent and sought to maintain the balance of power the allowed for the Concert of Europe, and seemed to have the best interests of his people in mind even when they forced him on self-destructive paths like the Franco-Prussian War. While I have some respect for Putin after he stabilized Russia in the post-Yeltsin years, I'm very negative on him other than that.
 
Political assassinations?

JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton and Medgar Evers, and those were the major ones and there has been a few ever since.

Though the neoliberals and neocons have settled for character assassinations these days but they will go back to the old school ways when things get rough for them.

Oh wait of course, how could I have forgotten about him, Jeffrey Epstein.



Watch Biden's actions, forget the rest.

Congress and the Press can holler all day but the buck stops with him, and his lot just don't care.

His lot are still looking for ways to fuck over the average American and trying to stop the assfucking in the midterms and of couse, the gunz.

John Kerry saying so damn early that he wanted to work with Putin on climate change gives you an idea over what Biden's handlers want.

Lindsey Graham and the neocons are an impotent lot mad at Biden for not nuking Russia and Biden and his lot don't care what the neocons want, since they are expendable and outlived their usefulness.
One thing people don't seem to like to think about is that killing people is noisy and messy. You only do it if you want to send that message or really don't have a choice. Otherwise it's not like they can't have you ingest carcinogens, mind annulling agents, or the like. Often they don't need the target dead, they just need them to not be too successful. To think they only use legal warfare to accomplish that would be naive.
 
I don't want to power level too hard, but a good friend of mine has recently left to join up with the foreign volunteers against my advice. I'm deeply afraid he will suffer this fate, but I also know that he made his bed when he decided that he would fight for a country he has never been to ostensibly to fight for freedom and democracy, while in reality I think he's simply living out a fantasy that he's had ever since he was rejected from our military on medical grounds.
I had a friend of mine tell me that we should sign up for Ukraine and that we're bringing back the draft or something. Yeah right, like they want a bunch of disinterested conscripts or even worse, Redditors. I just love/hate how many idiots buy into the "defend freedom and democracy and support Ukraine" rhetoric when it's in reality a corrupt shithole run by a diet Putin.

I've also seen some users say it would have been better for Putin to wait until he had Germany by the balls alittle bit more so they can cripple the EU by proxy, but then we keep forgetting Putin is coming 70, he doesn't have another 5-10 years left in him to wait on that, especially if Ukarine would be arming up within that time.

Quite frank I happy it kicked off now while the last remains of boomers are in control, I don't really trust the generations after to properly handle any of this.
Honestly we're probably doomed to be ruled over by boomers for eternity at this point. That being said, nobody over the age of 65 should be allowed to run for political office. Ever.
 
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It's insane that military officials of all people are begging for the death of a leader of a nuclear state with more frequency.
 
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It's insane that military officials of all people are begging for the death of a leader of a nuclear state with more frequency.
There are loads of good and smart people in the military, but the vast majority I've met and observed have been absolute retards about anything other than their specific job at best. They're better to ignore, especially the veterans.
 
I understand this sentiment, but a shit government is just a blip in terms of history. If your ancestors have been living in a place for centuries and centuries it's understandable to want to fight for that tooth and nail.

If the Kurgan hypothesis is correct, then what is modern day Ukraine is the origin point of all people of slavic ancestry, roots grow very deep here and I can't imagine wanting to give up on the place because some corrupt jews are in charge at the moment.

I don't really know what they should or can do, but I understand why they want to fight even though it may seem crazy to outsiders who just see their corrupt government and think "why fight for these assholes?"
To be fair, I think the exact same thing about the government in my country. If they're just gonna cheat elections and install senile pedophiles what is there worth defending?
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It's insane that military officials of all people are begging for the death of a leader of a nuclear state with more frequency.
So we're gonna announce our intentions in order to give him time to play Bunker Boy and avoid going outside, making it more difficult to pull off?

Great plan.
 
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I don't want to power level too hard, but a good friend of mine has recently left to join up with the foreign volunteers against my advice. I'm deeply afraid he will suffer this fate, but I also know that he made his bed when he decided that he would fight for a country he has never been to ostensibly to fight for freedom and democracy, while in reality I think he's simply living out a fantasy that he's had ever since he was rejected from our military on medical grounds.
100% fantasy
100% ignorance
Reality hits hard and dudes always think they're the exception until they're in it.

Hopefully he learns quickly and safely then heads back home.
 
JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X, Fred Hampton and Medgar Evers, and those were the major ones and there has been a few ever since.
These are all ancient examples that stretch back 50 years ago or further, I'm just surprised you didn't bring up Abraham Lincoln in this list.

Can you name a political assassination committed by Biden or even Trump? International drone strikes like Qasem Soleimani don't count.
I'm really tired of the "muh evil Putler" rhetoric. He's a relatively ordinary Russian autocrat doing what almost anyone would have expected him to do in response to getting boxed into a corner. Yes, he is nasty, and yes, he is invading his neighbor to gobble up a chunk of the country. But you know what? The West has no leg whatsoever to stand on. Not only have we gone out of our way to shove our nose into his neighborhood for no real reason, but we've destroyed far more countries than he ever has, in pursuit of far stupider objectives.
I noticed that you've made a special distinction for Putin but not one for the current U.S. president, are you judging Putin's personal history against the entire history of the United State's government? If we're using a 1:1 example, Biden ended a retarded war, albeit poorly, while Putin just started one.

If we're judging by the entire history of one country against the other, I can name a rather long list of major atrocities committed by a certain country that blows the other out of the water, if you'd like.

By the logic of responding to hostility, invading the ME was perfectly logical because the U.S. was actually attacked, the FBI allowed it to happen for reasons I'm not privy to, but it happened nevertheless.

"The West is so bad, everybody else should have carte blanche to commit whatever atrocity they feel like without criticism" is such a prog-leftist argument to make. I know we're both sick of hearing "Muh Russian collusion" but don't bullshit me with this unilateral comparison of one man's career to another government's entire history irrespective of leadership.
Oh wait of course, how could I have forgotten about him, Jeffrey Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein was not in the running for public office, he was a human trafficker. His assassination was criminal in nature.
 
Redittard thinking twice about going to Ukraine and figuring out that modern war isn't about adventure, glorious bayonet charges and killing 20 Russian dudes a la Jonh Wick (WW1 naivety all over again)

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Holy shit lmao, he really thought he'd be going around like he's part of the Rebel Alliance and knocking down Imperial Star Destroyer after Star Destroyer. What a fucking moron.
 
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Im gonna play the "imagine this" meme as Uncle Vladdy publicly wanting King Nigger dead or Trump dead. I would say a large part of the nation would be super duper mad at Putin for wanting King Nigger dead and maybe a lot of ties being cut. Whereas for Trump, depending on how a person voted, I unironically could see liberals starting to suck Putin's cock.

However looking at how that one dude a couple of years ago wanted Israel wiped off the map, nothing seriously happened to Iran beyond more sanctions and they still living.

However I believe these statements would make the average Russian already madder and Putin more paranoid since they have not hidden their views at seeing the West as decadent and degenerate.
 
There are loads of good and smart people in the military, but the vast majority I've met and observed have been absolute retards about anything other than their specific job at best. They're better to ignore, especially the veterans.
There's this gay notion in these modern times that if you're hugely successful in one field, you're automatically taken as an expert in other, unrelated fields as well. We see it time and again with sportsball champions doing absolutely retarded shit, but somehow we're supposed to take their words at a greater weight.
 
I don't want to power level too hard, but a good friend of mine has recently left to join up with the foreign volunteers against my advice. I'm deeply afraid he will suffer this fate, but I also know that he made his bed when he decided that he would fight for a country he has never been to ostensibly to fight for freedom and democracy, while in reality I think he's simply living out a fantasy that he's had ever since he was rejected from our military on medical grounds.
I failed to get into the military on medical grounds too; and once again for a non-combatant role (refuelling jets in a base in the middle of the country), it's rough, especially with my family history in the military.
Realized it was probably for the better when my uncle's complaining to me at a family function that his friends are being tried for warcrimes.
Not worth fighting for a country that will turn around and treat you like shit after. Especially Ukraine who I'm guessing your friend has no affiliation with. You can't really put a price on being underequipped, outgunned, and presumably outnumbered while you're being bombed to Hell and back.
 
Holy shit lmao, he really thought he'd be going around like he's part of the Rebel Alliance and knocking down Imperial Star Destroyer after Star Destroyer. What a fucking moron.
"Dude I thought we'd be like, on the offensive and pushing back with arty support and stuff. They have none of that but Russia does!! I don't know why they won't reorganize like the Republic Commandos to be more effective with what they have. I'm as tough as anyone but the war over there just isn't fair!"

I want reddit to be genocided like the VDV. Send in another battalion!
 
"The West is so bad, everybody else should have carte blanche to commit whatever atrocity they feel like without criticism" is such a prog-leftist argument to make. I know we're both sick of hearing "Muh Russian collusion" but don't bullshit me with this unilateral comparison of one man's career to another government's entire history irrespective of leadership.
Have you been paying attention to what the left has actually been saying? Like, at all? They have an insane degree of hatred for the old Slav warlord that far exceeds any rational assessment of what he's doing and how involved we have any right to be. Also, remember what I just said about invading and destroying Libya for no reason at all, to the point that the country still hasn't pulled itself back together over a decade later? Biden was VP during that whole debacle. He, personally, has no leg to stand on either. Or wouldn't if he was at all coherent enough to set policy on his own initiative.
 
"Dude I thought we'd be like, on the offensive and pushing back with arty support and stuff. They have none of that but Russia does!! I don't know why they won't reorganize like the Republic Commandos to be more effective with what they have. I'm as tough as anyone but the war over there just isn't fair!"

I want reddit to be genocided like the VDV. Send in another battalion!
Hey don't insult the VDV, at least they have a nice music video (there is a possibility any of the men in this footage died in the Russian Invasion of Ukraine).
 
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