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Late 30's. She's actually the youngest squad member aside from AOC. Tlaib and Pressley are mid to late 40's.
I'm actually surprised Beto's that old. The dude's a shmuck, but props for taking care of himself, I had him pegged as an early 40's politician.
Romney's 74... Political sins are fountain of youth for Mormons, I guess.
 
Clinton Foundation wouldn't be gearing up otherwise, and she smells blood in the water.

I mean, if you're Hillary wouldn't you go for it? It won't take barbells for his term to be cut short and he's actively hated, and Heels-Up Harris is even more hated than Hillary.
I'd think that trying to be president at 78, when I have the build of a melting sandcastle, would put me on the fast track to be the 2nd Democrat president to irreparably damage the party brand by visibly deteriorating while in office, but, then again, I'm not a Kissinger-style lizard person, so what do I know?
If I can borrow a sports phrase, her championship window has passed and she needs to make her peace with that.
 
I don't see the signs at all that she's seriously positioning herself for 2024. That sounds like a desperate media wishcasting. They may be on board for some more election season profiteering with the Foundation spinning up again, but she's stayed out of the spotlight for the most part and what noises they've been making look more like just desperate fundraising to keep their legacy from being completely blown up by Biden's incompetence.
If anyone's stupid and spiteful enough to sabotage the Democratic Party for years to come out of a belief that they were denied their rightful place in the Oval Office... its Hillary Clinton.
 
Problem is he won't, because he seems to have an issue with anyone that's anti-isreael, which /pol/ is.
And that's why he's forever cucked to serve Chosenite interests and be flooded by RINOs.
Hopefully whoever becomes his spiritual successor is free of such shackles. Then we'd be cooking with gas.

I actually listened to the Shapiro/Maher podcast yesterday while doing some yard work. The thing that struck me was that Maher seems like the kind of Democrat you could actually get along with.

He’s certainly to the left of me, but he’s not trying to troon out my kids, realizes that Communism is a pretty shitty system of governance and believes that free speech (not just popular speech) is pretty damned important. It’s not a high bar but he, unlike the modern Democrat party, passes it.
Niggatory.
He supports coonery and wants open borders. The only part he can get along with is the business end of my .44.
 
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And that's why he's forever cucked to serve Chosenite interests and be flooded by RINOs.

Hopefully whoever becomes his spiritual successor is free of such shackles. Then we'd be cooking with gas.
Keep hoping as that person will never win. The Israel lobby runs deep; another one of Mearsheimer's best:
 
I reject your reality and replace it with my long-shots...
A second-term Trump landslide, followed by 8 years of DeSantis, Lake, and whoever else on the Trumpian bench would happen before that.

Blacks and minorities flipping Republican permanently, rendering the Democrats dead would happen before that.

California, New York, Illinois, Minnesota, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico and the rest of West and East Coasts will become swing states and/or red states before that happens.

The Merge might unironically happen before... Well, you get it.
 
You know...they could've propped up Kirsten Sinema. She's white, BUT she's supposedly not-straight and a wahmen.

Oh well, I guess!

Don't trust her as far as I could throw her (assuming she's anything more than 4'10") but because of her recent behavior she's still more trustworthy than 90% of her party. Also looks far less haggard and psychotic.
Sinema's political career is over. It's Arizona, so Republicans aren't forced to hope the least bad Democrat gets elected, and her support among her Dem constituents is at rock bottom. Supporting Manchin was great on her part but she's never getting invited to cocktail parties in D.C. again.
As I understand it, the GOP would shatter into their own civil war - once the playing field becomes "Uniparty losers" vs "Trumpian Populists" there'd be nothing left to do but fight that out. The uniparty would see itself as trying to slow things down and stabilize what would likely be a very pained country with the collapse of an organized left, and the populists would see it as an opportunity to push radical change.

It likely wouldn't be a good time for anyone involved. Political destabilizations like that never are, even if the collapsing group is objectively awful in its own rights.
2023-2024 is going to be a 2-year interregnum period essentially, which means it will be a great time for both parties to work on settling their internal rivalries; not just the Democrats.

At least with the Republicans there's only two factions and they're both clearly delineated. Either you're a Trump-aligned populist, or you're a decrepit centenerian swamp faggot who fucks ISIS brides. Democrats have 3-4 factions with members frequently jumping ship from the game altogether or switching sides, and after midterms there might be even more factions.
 
Blacks and minorities flipping Republican permanently, rendering the Democrats dead would happen before that.
"permanently"
Nothing, in politics, is permanent. Don't fall for the same shit the dems did. But the parties becoming the top dog with the other being the underdog comes in cycles. We're due for the GOP to rise up.
 
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Clinton Foundation wouldn't be gearing up otherwise, and she smells blood in the water.

I mean, if you're Hillary wouldn't you go for it? It won't take barbells for his term to be cut short and he's actively hated, and Heels-Up Harris is even more hated than Hillary.
Imagine you're Hillary

You waste time in New York to pad your resume, then run for office. Only whoops, some goonish stuttering half-black idiot from the commie wing of the party steals YOUR seat, forcing you into some lesser role to try and smooth over the party civil war that threatens to erupt. 8 years later you run a pied piper strategy, getting the Controlled Opposition in the GOP and the media to push the biggest idiot you can find: Trump, because you thought he'd be the easiest thing to defeat. Spent billions on bribes and politicking while taking in billions in pre-sold influence. Lose.

Get so drunk that you literally can't concede the election that night. Immediately start up conspiracy theories about Russia supposedly stealing the election. Screech in outrage that everyone thought he was a buffoon and thus DIDN'T have election rigging in place just in case.

4 years later and the utter madness that has gripped your party, partially engineered by your own side constantly driving them to the height of terror and madness, results in the cabal of big tech oligarchs determining they have the right -- no, DUTY -- to silence a sitting President of the United States, and when the asshole who stole your Presidency the first time's retarded vice president runs, the madness is such that they blatantly rig an election to beat Trump.

So you have Trump no longer able to speak publicly.
No longer getting the DNC's wink wink nudge nudge amplification in the media as controlled opposition.
The tech bros actively silencing anyone and everyone to the right of Mao that dares speak too effectively or against the controlled opposition.
A congress that's about to fall to the GOP, allowing your party to claim to be the underdogs again all while controlled opposition GOPe ensures nothing falls outside the plan.
An uppity Russia who you were blatantly sabre rattling over when Obama stole your seat.
And a political base that has normalized election fraud and created a semi-organized way to do it.
Oh, while the same tech-bros that have silenced anyone to the right of controlled opposition have made it literally impossible to discuss the election rigging you absolutely will do if you will end up with less than 82 million votes.

Why the fuck wouldn't Hillary run? It's like things are custom built for her to take over now and lead us into the great hellscape that Clinton 3: Revenge of the Pantsuit promised us so long ago. My only hope is that enough people are soured on Hillary that no amount of "ITS HUR TURN AGAIN RUSSIAN BOTS WON'T STEAL IT THIS TIME!!" will overcome it, and that somehow Trump can overcome the whole "can't say anything and the media will be a 24x7 attack ad for the next 2 years" thing.

But hey, you know what they say.

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Americans do love a good comeback story.
 
Imagine you're Hillary

You waste time in New York to pad your resume, then run for office. Only whoops, some goonish stuttering half-black idiot from the commie wing of the party steals YOUR seat, forcing you into some lesser role to try and smooth over the party civil war that threatens to erupt. 8 years later you run a pied piper strategy, getting the Controlled Opposition in the GOP and the media to push the biggest idiot you can find: Trump, because you thought he'd be the easiest thing to defeat. Spent billions on bribes and politicking while taking in billions in pre-sold influence. Lose.

Get so drunk that you literally can't concede the election that night. Immediately start up conspiracy theories about Russia supposedly stealing the election. Screech in outrage that everyone thought he was a buffoon and thus DIDN'T have election rigging in place just in case.

4 years later and the utter madness that has gripped your party, partially engineered by your own side constantly driving them to the height of terror and madness, results in the cabal of big tech oligarchs determining they have the right -- no, DUTY -- to silence a sitting President of the United States, and when the asshole who stole your Presidency the first time's retarded vice president runs, the madness is such that they blatantly rig an election to beat Trump.

So you have Trump no longer able to speak publicly.
No longer getting the DNC's wink wink nudge nudge amplification in the media as controlled opposition.
The tech bros actively silencing anyone and everyone to the right of Mao that dares speak too effectively or against the controlled opposition.
A congress that's about to fall to the GOP, allowing your party to claim to be the underdogs again all while controlled opposition GOPe ensures nothing falls outside the plan.
An uppity Russia who you were blatantly sabre rattling over when Obama stole your seat.
And a political base that has normalized election fraud and created a semi-organized way to do it.
Oh, while the same tech-bros that have silenced anyone to the right of controlled opposition have made it literally impossible to discuss the election rigging you absolutely will do if you will end up with less than 82 million votes.

Why the fuck wouldn't Hillary run? It's like things are custom built for her to take over now and lead us into the great hellscape that Clinton 3: Revenge of the Pantsuit promised us so long ago. My only hope is that enough people are soured on Hillary that no amount of "ITS HUR TURN AGAIN RUSSIAN BOTS WON'T STEAL IT THIS TIME!!" will overcome it, and that somehow Trump can overcome the whole "can't say anything and the media will be a 24x7 attack ad for the next 2 years" thing.

But hey, you know what they say.

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Hell hath no fury like a Clinton scorned.
 
It sounds stupid, and sounds like it's only technically a violation...

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But this is literally their gameplan. Make up "technically a violation" shit to prohibit Republicans from even running against them, unless they're the most milquetoast RINOs in the history of the earth. Controlled opposition or die, GOP, your Uniparty master has given you an ultimatim.

Hope to god Trump does a special prosecutor to get to the bottom of the DNC's money laundering game in the Ukraine in 2024. Nothing would make me happier than seeing Pelsoi, Kerry, Romney, etc all having freakouts as their children are frog marched for selling influence and embezzling US foreign aid on behalf of their parents.
Richard Nixon did nothing wrong when it came to watergate. He had every right to spy on these fuckers.
 
that somehow Trump can overcome the whole "can't say anything and the media will be a 24x7 attack ad for the next 2 years"
Media attack ads were some of his best advertising, the man able to turn things back on them with ease. As to not being able to speak, the minute he announces his official candidacy Twitter, Facebook, et. al. will need to scramble fast to justify why they're keeping him banned, and that goes double if he wins the primary (which he almost certainly will). Keeping the official Republican candidate banned will absolutely fuck them regarding 230.
 
Imagine you're Hillary

You waste time in New York to pad your resume, then run for office. Only whoops, some goonish stuttering half-black idiot from the commie wing of the party steals YOUR seat, forcing you into some lesser role to try and smooth over the party civil war that threatens to erupt. 8 years later you run a pied piper strategy, getting the Controlled Opposition in the GOP and the media to push the biggest idiot you can find: Trump, because you thought he'd be the easiest thing to defeat. Spent billions on bribes and politicking while taking in billions in pre-sold influence. Lose.

Get so drunk that you literally can't concede the election that night. Immediately start up conspiracy theories about Russia supposedly stealing the election. Screech in outrage that everyone thought he was a buffoon and thus DIDN'T have election rigging in place just in case.

4 years later and the utter madness that has gripped your party, partially engineered by your own side constantly driving them to the height of terror and madness, results in the cabal of big tech oligarchs determining they have the right -- no, DUTY -- to silence a sitting President of the United States, and when the asshole who stole your Presidency the first time's retarded vice president runs, the madness is such that they blatantly rig an election to beat Trump.

So you have Trump no longer able to speak publicly.
No longer getting the DNC's wink wink nudge nudge amplification in the media as controlled opposition.
The tech bros actively silencing anyone and everyone to the right of Mao that dares speak too effectively or against the controlled opposition.
A congress that's about to fall to the GOP, allowing your party to claim to be the underdogs again all while controlled opposition GOPe ensures nothing falls outside the plan.
An uppity Russia who you were blatantly sabre rattling over when Obama stole your seat.
And a political base that has normalized election fraud and created a semi-organized way to do it.
Oh, while the same tech-bros that have silenced anyone to the right of controlled opposition have made it literally impossible to discuss the election rigging you absolutely will do if you will end up with less than 82 million votes.

Why the fuck wouldn't Hillary run? It's like things are custom built for her to take over now and lead us into the great hellscape that Clinton 3: Revenge of the Pantsuit promised us so long ago. My only hope is that enough people are soured on Hillary that no amount of "ITS HUR TURN AGAIN RUSSIAN BOTS WON'T STEAL IT THIS TIME!!" will overcome it, and that somehow Trump can overcome the whole "can't say anything and the media will be a 24x7 attack ad for the next 2 years" thing.

But hey, you know what they say.

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Americans do love a good comeback story.
AHHHH'M RAZORFIST, GOD....*snap* FUCKIN-SPEED!

Seriously, that was like a mini-Razor rant. Either you or @thx1138 could take over his channel should he go full lolcow, and nobody would notice.
 
So Biden wants to call Saudi Arabia to talk about oil and they refuse to talk to him.
Instead they now announce that they invite Xi to a state visit because they want more than just "you buy oil from us, we buy weapons from you".
the fucking saudis said that! And it is a very obvious jab at Biden. His fuckup with Yemen and Iran has turned the Saudies to go become best friends with China instead.
Jesus, and Trump was who were turning allies against the US.
 
mini-Razor rant. Either you or @thx1138 could take over his channel should he go full lolcow, and nobody would notice
Before?

I think Biden is done before 2024. He filed, but that means very little if you are on the way out mentally before and are physically uncapable. However, that is counter to what I'm seeing the Dems pull now that all alternatives are fucking even worse.

So who to go for? Kamala like previously said is looking more like a liability because she is dumber than Dubya, and worse electorally, more obnoxious to listen to. Clinton may be starting up her Foundation again to reclaim the DNC throne, but she is also in the same boat as Kamala: losing to Trump by over 7 points nationally, ergo a landslide for orangeman.

So who's left? A blue dog like Manchin or NC's governor Cooper would probably work electorally, but would never win the nomination. Bernie's about dead so the progressive wing has AOC, Warren, and other Squad members, who are complete idiots when confronted by everyday people they are losing. Cooperate Dems like Beta, most Congressmen and others are either too plastic or nobodies (or both) to run.

So unironically I think the plan is to run Joe, load him up with enough meds until his heart explodes, pray that it does before the next presidential election for sympathy points and try to carry that "dead president" sentiment to get them over the finish line, or try to ride him out until he is fucking 90. It won't work, but now that Joe is their only shot, its what makes the most sense to me.
 
Kamala like previously said is looking more like a liability because she is dumber than Dubya,


dumber than Dubya
Say all you want about Dubya fucking up, but he was actually intelligent. He had been a governor and businessman before he went into office, of course helped by Daddy Bush's money. Kumala just sucked off some guy to get her career started. She's a cheap twenty dollar whore who got where she did by spreading her legs, opening her mouth, and letting her masters do what they pleased with her. Dubya had connections, but Kamala just is a whore who pressed her luck and got in too deep.
 
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