Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Narcotics]

I think we all know that Zelensky is s using rhetorics for dramatics, propaganda, to receive more aid and to try and drag foreign troops into ukraine. At this point, it's extremely annoying.
He went to the us congress to say "pls close sky shoot down roosia planes" and to the israelies to say "pls give missiles".
I hope this conflict ends as soon as possible, i sympathize for the average ukranian civilian but it's becoming harder and harder for me to simpathize with Zman.

 

[Fougaro]

A HoI4 soviet playthough.

I see. In that case, as someone who played Hearts of Iron II back in the day, I think the Russians should Zerg rush Ukraine until the last German is dead.

 

[The best and greatest]

I guess your talking to burger normies.
Americans are obsessed with WWII and everything has to be some form of it.
The losing streak the USA has been on since 1945 is just memory holed.

Yeah thats something we can't seem to get over. We have a great ability to annihilate enemies on the open field but actually occupying lands long term simply isn't our strongsuit, primarily because we lack the stomach to commit to the ethicly questionable actions that effectively retaining an iron grip over conquered territories entails.

For some reason our political leaders are all stuck on this mentally damaged idea of "Nation building" that hasn't worked one time outside of WW2. Maybe you could count South Korea if we're being generous.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Another is reason is probing defenses, lose a tank and you just replace tank, lose a warm body and you have no one else to operate in the area.

And the warm bodies manning that tank.

 

[Tactical Wizard]

'Sup fags? I haven't been around since the last thread got locked and shit happened in life. How much coping and seething has our local conglomeration of Vatniks and stormniggers been doing for the past two weeks and how much goalpost moving have they been doing? I come bearing updates!

The UK Ministry of Defence has been providing updates on the regular. I trust them more than any newspaper or cable news outlet but the fog of war is still in effect.



This one I refuse to believe, however... Because their most recent map shows that the LNR has been deleted. Take it with however much salt you please.

The Holodomor is mostly an exaggerated myth. Like there was a famine caused by Soviet mismanagement during an already difficult few years for farming, but it was exactly that, a famine caused by mismanagement that wasn't some concerted effort to destroy the Ukrainian people. The "muh 7 million Ukrainians" is pure nonsense, made up by Nazi collaborators in the OUN to top the 6 million Jews (that's also why they call it the Holodomor, because it sounds like Holocaust). It was promoted by the CIA and Western propaganda machine to whitewash the atrocities commited by Ukrainian Nazis during and after the war (where they were involved in atrocities against the Poles in Galicia).

Modern Ukraine is a dream 60 years in the making for these Ukrainian Nazis and their spawn who populate the ranks of the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies.

Good one. Next, Tell the one about how the Katyn Massacre never happened.

Some kind autist went and identified most of the Russian units deployed.

https://nitter.net/HN_Schlottman

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Guards units, VDV and Black Sea Marines (Naval Infantry)? This was the main thrust and, on paper, they were sending their best conventional formations. Also, this isn't news. They were identified over a week ago.

Also, Spetsnaz got stuck in an elevator. "How do you know they're stuck!" you ask? Well, they were dumb enough to get into an elevator. You never take an elevator because you can get trapped in it. You can always fall back up or down a stairwell.

@JosephStalin you were a military man right? Can you answer this question my friend had? He asked that since it seems the currently accepted military doctrine is that infantry have to support armored vehicles/tanks, why are we seeing Russian tanks going without any infantry support? Especially when they're entering urban areas with tall buildings all around them, like the Azov footage we've seen days ago?

That's completely ass backwards. The greatest threat to mechanized assets (Read, things with tracks.) are infantrymen in ambush equipped with weapons that pose a credible threat. When moving in a hostile or non-permissive environment, the infantry get out and screen the column. They are specifically there to trip over any ambushes and clear them out with things that can threaten other infantry. This is basic doctrine for everyone, US and Russians included. In all of these ambush videos that I've seen, the Ukrainians are hitting armored columns where there are no infantry or the infantry are still mounted in their transports.

 

[Mr Bunny]

And the warm bodies manning that tank.

Less than losing a whole squad outside the tank.

 

[Aidan]

What would the Russian (military) equivalent of Rick and Morty be you'd have to watch to understand?

@Borscht please advise
I'll actually check it out so I can into Russian better

 

[Mussi]

'Sup fags? I haven't been around since the last thread got locked and shit happened in life. How much coping and seething has our local conglomeration of Vatniks and stormniggers been doing for the past two weeks and how much goalpost moving have they been doing? I come bearing updates!

The UK Ministry of Defence has been providing updates on the regular. I trust them more than any newspaper or cable news outlet but the fog of war is still in effect.
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This one I refuse to believe, however... Because their most recent map shows that the LNR has been deleted. Take it with however much salt you please.
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The UK has been exceptionally hawkish in this war. That they would have the LNR get deleted when almost all of Luhansk has been conquered by Russia is complete shit and a perfect example of why they should not be trusted at all.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

It tracks somewhat with criticisms I've heard about the battalion tactical group. Apparently (though everyone is speaking with the benefit of hindsight now) they're somewhat lacking in terms of infantry, compared to how many vehicles the BTG contains. Other main criticism I've seen is that the BTG only has 5 fuel trucks which is, so they say, far too little for all the trucks and tanks they're meant to keep supplied.
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I've seen a few people talk about this. From what I understand most logistics is still handled at the brigade level. Those units are not organic to units on a battalion level. Above that you have Army level logistics that are handled their (rail) transportation corps.

 

[kuuu]

Also, Spetsnaz got stuck in an elevator. "How do you know they're stuck!" you ask? Well, they were dumb enough to get into an elevator. You never take an elevator because you can get trapped in it. You can always fall back up or down a stairwell.

Turns out there is actually a video of that going around, last 12 seconds or so:

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Yeah thats something we can't seem to get over. We have a great ability to annihilate enemies on the open field but actually occupying lands long term simply isn't our strongsuit, primarily because we lack the stomach to commit to the ethicly questionable actions that effectively retaining an iron grip over conquered territories entails.

For some reason our political leaders are all stuck on this mentally damaged idea of "Nation building" that hasn't worked one time outside of WW2. Maybe you could count South Korea if we're being generous.

For some, it's this retarded idea that postmodern Democracy is the end-state of human history, and if we could just get the rest of the world to turn in their guns and become bugman consoomers, everyone will be happy.

Other people have realized that War is a profitable business, and that keeping shit constantly stirred in shithole countries will create a perpetual weapons-selling, security-providing gravy train that can be ridden till the end of time.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Less than losing a whole squad outside the tank.

Tanks and tank crews are harder to replace. Besides, you wouldn't lose either if they did their job right and properly covered each other.

 

[Mussi]

I'm just getting word that Russia has deployed its hidden elite army "Za Rodina", equipped with 1000 T-14s and 500 SU-57s, to Mariupol after the ultimatum expired. According to on the ground sources, each soldier is in Sotnik armor that apparently repel direct hits from Javelins. The entire Azov Battalion, fresh off crucifying the last remaining Russian civilian, was massacred in around 24 minutes.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

What would the Russian (military) equivalent of Rick and Morty be you'd have to watch to understand?

Post in thread 'Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 2' https://kiwifarms.net/threads/russian-invasion-of-ukraine-2022-thread-2.114104/post-11363651

My longpost explaining that Russians have a bugperson mindset, while Americans do not. So casualty rates that would be appalling by burger standards are par for the course by Russian standards.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

I know people are hyper focused on Azov but, VICE of all people, made a pretty good report going through and meeting some of the volunteer militias and they're ALL like Azov. Azov was just the one that got the spotlight. All of them though got integrated into the army because to be honest, at the time the militias were more of a proper army than their actual national army.

you're not helping. you think you are but this is literally the opposite of what people want to know. "actually the entire bushel is full of bad apples, its exactly like putin said"

 

[Rezza]

'Sup fags? I haven't been around since the last thread got locked and shit happened in life. How much coping and seething has our local conglomeration of Vatniks and stormniggers been doing for the past two weeks and how much goalpost moving have they been doing? I come bearing updates!

The UK Ministry of Defence has been providing updates on the regular. I trust them more than any newspaper or cable news outlet but the fog of war is still in effect.
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This one I refuse to believe, however... Because their most recent map shows that the LNR has been deleted. Take it with however much salt you please.
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Good one. Next, Tell the one about how the Katyn Massacre never happened.

Guards units, VDV and Black Sea Marines (Naval Infantry)? This was the main thrust and, on paper, they were sending their best conventional formations. Also, this isn't news. They were identified over a week ago.

Also, Spetsnaz got stuck in an elevator. "How do you know they're stuck!" you ask? Well, they were dumb enough to get into an elevator. You never take an elevator because you can get trapped in it. You can always fall back up or down a stairwell.
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That's completely ass backwards. The greatest threat to mechanized assets (Read, things with tracks.) are infantrymen in ambush equipped with weapons that pose a credible threat. When moving in a hostile or non-permissive environment, the infantry get out and screen the column. They are specifically there to trip over any ambushes and clear them out with things that can threaten other infantry. This is basic doctrine for everyone, US and Russians included. In all of these ambush videos that I've seen, the Ukrainians are hitting armored columns where there are no infantry or the infantry are still mounted in their transports.

I'm kind of believing the British MoD updates, some turns out to be true, like the Russian supply problems, Russian garrisons on other territories being mobilized to replenish the troops in Ukraine, Russia struggling to achieve Air Superiority (let alone Supremacy) hence reduced Russian Air Force sorties. Some are a bit optimistic, but you can take it as true with only a bit of grain of salt

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

I'm looking forward to seeing what happens to this man when he finally wears out his welcome.

Theyre not giving him Iron Dome because it only protects against Palestinian rockets, which are just glorified fireworks.

 

[Mussi]

I'm kind of believing the British MoD updates, some turns out to be true, like the Russian supply problems, Russian garrisons on other territories being mobilized to replenish the troops in Ukraine, Russia struggling to achieve Air Superiority (let alone Supremacy) hence reduced Russian Air Force sorties. Some are a bit optimistic, but you can take it as true with only a bit of grain of salt

Nigger, the lines that the UK MoD have drawn are physically impossible. There were skirmishes in Rubizhne and along the P07 in northern Luhansk not even 12 hours ago.

 

[李西青]

Why is there a bathroom sink and vanity in a kitchen? Or is that just standard hohol home design?

It seems to be a private house (ground level outside the window) and you can use any kind of layout there, from McMansion to this, provided you have the money. Quite a lot of people do it themselves/with the help from their friends, so some decisions might be unorthodox

 

[Rezza]

Nigger, the lines that the UK MoD have drawn are physically impossible. There were skirmishes in Rubizhne and along the P07 in northern Luhansk not even 12 hours ago.

Oh I'm not talking about the map, apologies if that's not clear enough, I'm talking about the usual updates they gave. Some are a bit too optimistic, but more turns out to be true, hence why I'm leaning on believing it